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View Poll Results: Ore no Imouto - Episode 11 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 65 | 49.62% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 37 | 28.24% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 10.69% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 6.11% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 2.29% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.76% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.76% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.53% | |
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll |
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2010-12-13, 07:58 | Link #85 |
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Hmm, it was okay. The first half was pretty funny when Kirino's plan actually backfires and Manami plays along with it. And they're in the bedroom. How conveient; I think Kirino just helped her brother... And with Kirino in the doorway, watching them. I wonder if she played Yosuga no Sora.
The second half I really didn't care much for; it's like whoa where did this come from? It was a nice kind of resolution with some mutual acknowledgment but I've never seen a story where it resolves so well with so little revealed. So what's wrong with Kirino? What's wrong with Kyousuke; that was a pretty lame flashblack. I guess you really don't need a reason to help someone so close, but that was hardly satisfying given all the stuff we have to go through. The main problem was the lack of development to this conclusion; after meandering around for so much, and then we kinda jump to this because oh no, it's almost over! Anyhow, I give this episode a 6 + 1 bonus for a total of 7 because Kuroneko's outfit has a tail (omg cat) . Or she's actually Bernkastel. I don't care.
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If we don't ever see a particular character or event in the anime (and that is also never referenced), then it doesn't apply to the anime's continuity, imo. Quote:
Also, dude, you rated it 10/10 yourself.
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2010-12-13, 08:14 | Link #88 |
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Kirino showing a dere side for more than 5 seconds.
kuroneko calling kyousuke nii-san(goes to re-watch that part) Manami finding um...books in kyou's room Mom gets more screen time. ah such a nice episode. Its a nice way to start off my morning
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2010-12-13, 09:06 | Link #89 |
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Great episode.
Just... great. I need to find a gif of the receptionist. That was one of my favorite parts... Where he looks over, and she's looking down the hall at him. I can only imagine what's going through her mind. You know it can't be anything clean. |
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Kuroneko is still the cutest by far though. Her handmade cat ears and tail were great, her troll manga was hilarious (I bet she doesn't suspect how spot-on it truly was), and finally, her imouto impersonation was godly and lethal. She totally stole the show once again. I very much enjoyed seeing Kyousuke finally grow some balls and chew Kirino out as well. This should have happened episodes ago. Quote:
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2010-12-13, 09:44 | Link #91 |
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I still maintain that the third episode is the best in the series, but I did enjoy this a fair bit.
Like many others, I'd have liked to have seen a bit more clarity in the transition between the first part and second part, but I can also see the logic there. I think Manami being able to decisively shut down her attitude was a crucial step. Sure, she just ended up going the trap route, but the point is that she was made to take a step back from directly bullying, which would give her a space to evaluate her actions. Again, as always, I am sorely disappointed by the way people are letting moral assessments of characters influence their appreciation of storytelling. Sure, this episode was a little disjointed, but while that is a valid complaint, "Kirino is a bitch, this sucks" is not. The point of the story is that Kirino and Kyousuke have a difficult relationship and there's a lot of distance and pent-up feelings to resolve. If she weren't angry/resentful towards him, we wouldn't have an actual story and this would just be another run-of-the-mill rom-com. But then, given that the bulk (not all, but the bulk) of the comments that critique the series as a whole because they personally dislike Kirino (and I'm not saying she's not volatile/harsh) usually turn around to talk about how moe/cute they think such and such a character is, I suppose that may be what everyone's wanting.
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2010-12-13, 09:52 | Link #92 | |
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2010-12-13, 10:04 | Link #93 |
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Fantastic episode, loved it. I more or less echo what Ricky said, but I'll add a bit because I'm just that pretentious.
I think people have become far too accustomed to teenaged or even pre-teen characters in anime acting like mature adults. This series has honestly been refreshing insofar as we have characters of that age range acting, for the most part, like how kids their age actually act: petty, spoiled, flawed logic and reasoning and so on. While there certainly do exist exceptions to the norm of how kids in that age range act and carry themselves they are still, at best, just that: Exceptions. They are not the standard. And hell, by the end of this episode Kirino shows that she's at least begun to get it. She knows she went way out of line with her treatment of Kyousuke and Manami, hence the party and everything. Does it sweep everything that happened before under the rug? No, it happened and it can't be taken back. But it does go to show that in spite of her outward attitude she genuinely appreciates everything Kyousuke has done and endured for the sake of her and her sanity vis a vis her hobby's less-than-acceptable status. As for Kyousuke, this episode also shows his inner feelings about all that's happened and it really resonated with me. He did everything so far for her sake out of a sense of obligation to family, and when you get down to it there are far worse reasons to do something than because it'd make your sister/brother/mother/father smile or that it'd help them out. If you can't get that, if you can't understand that family is more important than anything, I suggest you re-examine yourself and your priorities because nothing trumps family. Ever. And finally, Kyousuke did it all without expecting anything in return, even something as simple as a, "Thanks." To actually get as much from Kirino, in such an honest and genuine fashion? I think it'd bring anyone to tears. Again, great ep if not as mind-blowing as some earlier eps were in terms of their content and execution. Still a 9/10 for me, and just when I was considering dropping this series from my personal contention for Best of 2010 it jumps right back into the ring.
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Why would anybody watch a show if the entire main cast is lacking a redeeming and humanizing character? How can you, as the viewer, sympathize with a character that is totally lacking in any redeeming or humanizing traits? Why should we care about a character like that? Even somebody like Light Yagami has redeeming and humanizing qualities. His goals are understandable, even if his methods aren't admirable ones. Quote:
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2010-12-13, 10:58 | Link #95 | |||||
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Again, I am not agreeing with or condoning her actions, but that's not a prerequisite of sympathy. It's enough to be able to parse it out in your head, and I feel like people are showing a very superficial awareness by holding on to Kirino's every harsh action and saying "It's about time she apologized!" and that it "Wasn't enough" when they're perfectly willing to cheer Kyousuke on without any reference to the fact that he ignored his little sister for most of their lives. If you're going to question Kirino's development and persona, question Kyousuke's. If you're going to laud Kyousuke's victories, laud Kirino's, because a real understanding of the story puts them both in the "you made a mess, let's start cleaning it up" bin. Quote:
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2010-12-13, 11:01 | Link #96 |
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enjoyable episode, too bad it suffered from the lack of time. Would have prefered it if they had put the party + ending of volume4 to the next episode and had spend more time displaying Kyousukes behaviour and some left out scenes in this one.
The episode was nearly too good in giving every Character something to do, felt like a last episode. I even had a flashback when Saori and Kureneko started to clap, hearing faint Omedeto-voices from NGE.. The mother was entertaining, with a bit more time at hand I would like to see more of her to show some similarities between her and the son. Manami was okay, it is a tough job after all to impress the family of your loved one. Didn't liked her action inside Kyousuke's room, but that is typical anime behaviour, so cannot really blame her for that. Kureneko's manga presentation was well done, another reason to curse the lack of time, would have been worth to extend that one. Saori came a bit short, but in which episode it wasn't like that?^^; Glad to see they managed to get Kirino's behaviour more on the realistic side again, especially in the first half. Too bad the process of her realizing that she went overboard wasn't shown, but packed episode again. Kyousuke annoyed me today in the first half though. His social ability disappeared for no reason. Normally he would have grasped the situation and act in a de-escalationally way, but today he set up his 'disgusted face' from the beginning and provoked and teased Kirino. While his actions and reactions were understandable and expected from most persons they did not fit his usual behaviour. In the second half it is a different story. His social ability returned miraculously, which was irritating after being left out before, with the difference that he would have had now a reason to act as strange as he did in the first half. But being back to his normal self the annoyment towards him vanished at that point (irritation grew with it though). All in all, good that the show recovered from the episode 8 finally, the pacing is as weird as in the first episodes and characters feel more lively again. leaves hope for a good final episode and a nice online arc. |
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2010-12-13, 12:00 | Link #98 | ||
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At that point, her family knows and basically accepts her hobby, her best friend, while not completely accepting, at least knows about it and still remain her friends, and she even got new friends with the same interest in Kuroneko and Saori. And I don't expect her to suddenly turn into a Manami, no. But like Triple_R said, there isn't any significant difference in how she's treating him before and after to show her gratitude and appreciation to his brother for what he did (which is why the sudden change in this ep feels jarring). What's more, about the reason that Kyousuke ignores her for her childhood. Sure, that's what we got from her, but from Kyousuke he feels that it's Kirino who has been ignoring her so far, which is why he's determined to be a good big brother now. There's no proof that Kirino can't be wrong or misunderstanding something. Not unless we see what really happen by a flashback, or at least from an account from an unrelated yet close third party (like their parents). But no, even after ELEVEN episodes, we still don't have that yet. And as such, at least until I see that, I find it hard to completely sympathize with her. That being said, this ep does greatly improves my sympathy to her, so let's hope they'll continue from there (although just one last ep makes it doubtful that it's enough time to show and properly resolve what happened, I feel we may need to wait until the 4 net episodes for that).
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2010-12-13, 12:02 | Link #99 |
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Great episode
Mom almost catches Kyousuke playing eroge. From his hushed behaviour, she assumes he's watching porn on his sister's laptop again (well, she's not too far off there ). In the OP, we have interesting stats for everyone: When Manami comes over, she's very fexible and skillfully works around any of Kirino's attempts. As a reward, she can can an eyeful of his doujinshi and eroge Spoiler for perhaps a little nsfw:
She's not fazed by that either and happily notices that he's got a glasses fetish. btw, is it just me, or does that eroge girl looks like Haruhi with glasses? Second half, we have the girls in meido outfits, but Kyousuke doesn't seem to really appreciate what Kirino has prepared there: Kirino is intrigued by Kuroneko's tail and ears: Kuroneko shows her new manga, which has Kirino sniffing at Kyousuke's shorts. Kirino is not amused by this Finally, at the "main event", Kirino thanks Kyousuke for all he's done for her and shows her deredere side. She presents him with the eroge which she had so much fun with before Last, we get a happy group shot of the girls together:
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2010-12-13, 13:27 | Link #100 |
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I guess Manami doesn't know if she should be happy or angry that Kyousuke's got a glasses fetish XD (she should be happy).
Manami (reading the Nico Douga style messages): Onii-chan is a pervert who only loves little sisters... Kyousuke: Urghh... We don't have to wait for a second season (the ban hurts, but I can't put it here). .... ... Wha-? Saori's as heavy as a guy... yet a supermodel... hmm.....
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