2012-09-19, 05:10 | Link #23781 | |
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2012-09-19, 05:30 | Link #23782 | |
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2012-09-19, 06:21 | Link #23784 | |
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"The freedom of the press, is that a provocation?" he asked. "I'm not asking strict Muslims to read Charlie Hebdo, just like I wouldn't go to a mosque to listen to speeches that go against everything I believe." Fair enough I guess.
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2012-09-19, 06:30 | Link #23785 |
Did someone call a doctor
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Yeah, but the fanatics don't care about that, all they care is someone drew a picture and they'll go off the deep end like they have done in the past. I think someone was killed last time a publication like that had a caricature of Mohammad.
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2012-09-19, 08:47 | Link #23786 |
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The ones proding the fanatics aren't really all that fanatic themselves in comparison(Hell most don't even want to step on the battlefield nor would they do hae the things they expect their followers to do). It's just so easy to have power and keep it if you have fanatics believing everything you say since they'll kill and die if you tell them to.
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2012-09-19, 10:09 | Link #23787 |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Massachusetts
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Yes, and if they were simply displaying anti=American sentiment (perfectly understandable considering Western interference in the Middle East during the modern age), I'd probably sympathize more. Instead they're childishly defending their 'prophet'. "Don't mess with Muslims" I saw on one sign... Yeah, I think they should get over it...
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2012-09-19, 10:47 | Link #23788 | |
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http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/pakistan...-film-1.962187
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2012-09-19, 10:58 | Link #23789 | |
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2012-09-19, 11:03 | Link #23790 |
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Some people like to label the fanatics and their hitch-hikers as the source of the problem, but are they really ? Or are they simply symtomps of the bigger multi-dimensional problems reflective of the preceding historical process ? Because the later seems more likely to be the gate that can lead us to the answer behind how much of a confused insecure dork Islamic world has generally become.
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2012-09-19, 13:15 | Link #23791 | |
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"President Barack Obama has closely followed the policy of his predecessor, President George W. Bush, when it comes to tactics used in the “war on terror” — from rendition, targeted killings, state secrets, Guantanamo Bay to domestic spying, according to Michael Hayden, Bush’s former director of the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency. “But let me repeat my hypothesis: Despite the frequent drama at the political level, America and Americans have found a comfortable center line in what it is they want their government to do and what it is they accept their government doing. It is that practical consensus that has fostered such powerful continuity between two vastly different presidents, George W. Bush and Barack Obama, when it comes, when it comes to this conflict,” Hayden said Friday while speaking at the University of Michigan." "“And so, we’ve seen all of these continuities between two very different human beings, President Bush and President Obama. We are at war, targeted killings have continued, in fact, if you look at the statistics, targeted killings have increased under Obama.” He said that was the case because, in one differing path between the two presidents, Obama in 2009 closed CIA “black sites” and ratcheted down on torturing detainees. But instead of capturing so-called “enemy combatants,” President Obama kills them instead, Hayden said." See: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...war-on-terror/ |
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2012-09-19, 13:35 | Link #23792 |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Proves that this former CIA chief wasn't fit for his post at his time. Honestly, how can you develop that hypothesis from the facts and not thinking about the drone killings being a rather new war strategy that wasn't fully developed under Bush and hence could not result in that many targeted killings (most of them within Pakistan's borders). It has nothing to do with longer or shorter lists, or the willingness of both presidents to either kill or detain the "enemy combatants". In the case of drone attacks there is only the kill option. The other quasi-option is to let them go free.
So, since it is hard to capture the "enemy combatants" using drones the reference to Guantanamo is rather irrelevant. And he should know, since typically the CIA is involved in those targeted killings. If the CIA has the similar brain powered people in their target selection/aquisition ranks... - then how many actual "enemy combatants" are among the killed?
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2012-09-19, 13:44 | Link #23793 |
Sensei, aishite imasu
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This really shouldn't surprise ANYONE honestly.
When Obama said that he didn't like the policy of detention that was used under the Bush Administration, WHERE did he say that he was opposed to the policy of assassinating terrorists? It's the same thing about Obama getting out of Iraq, but people being surprised when he figured the US should stay around in Afghanistan. The Right has spent SOOO much mental energy trying to paint Obama as being a "pussy", that even people on the left started to believe, nay, hope for it. All you can say about Obama is that he's probably more pragmatic about Bush, and less interested in spectacles of trials and some such.
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2012-09-19, 14:26 | Link #23794 | |
Not Enough Sleep
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i am a pragmatist myself. Why bother bring these guys in which creates all sort of problems. Just leaving their bodies for the buzzards, no fuss no muss.
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2012-09-19, 15:55 | Link #23799 |
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More than two-thirds in U.S. live paycheck to paycheck: survey
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88I1BE20120919
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2012-09-19, 15:56 | Link #23800 | |
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Noda Government Reverses its Position on Nuclear Phase Out by 2040
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