(L) Übel Blatt

[TheAlucid]

Originally Posted by KrebMarkt

11th was its sell chart ranking for a given month.
France market is one of the most competitive as its a home of the Franco-Belgian comics or BD.
We call Comics & Manga the 9th art here

Very encouraging, can't stand it when I'm reading a good series and it ends prematurely because it never made it past obscurity and it's market wasn't big enough to support it.

[Hs Vi Germania]

Hm Übel Blatt...
I love when Japanese give their animes German names,
for example ElfenLied. ^^
But Übel Blatt .... these are 2 German words but I can't see any sense to it.

[KrebMarkt]

Originally Posted by TheAlucid

Very encouraging, can't stand it when I'm reading a good series and it ends prematurely because it never made it past obscurity and it's market wasn't big enough to support it.

I compared the french version and the english scanlation.
English scanlation is better to not say more
The way the dialogs has been simplified to bare minimum in the french translation is sad.
It is still a good purchase seinen book format, correct jacket & the omake translated.
By the way Ubel Blatt french editor is also doing Kurokami in french.

French Bande Dessiné, Manga & Comics market is rather strong among world top 5.

[frubam]

Originally Posted by Hs Vi Germania

Hm Übel Blatt...
I love when Japanese give their animes German names,
for example ElfenLied. ^^
But Übel Blatt .... these are 2 German words but I can't see any sense to it.

and what exactly does "Ubel Blatt" mean? Well, it sounds cool at least .

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by frubam

and what exactly does "Ubel Blatt" mean? Well, it sounds cool at least .

in Chinese the literal translation is: Demon Area Hero Legend

after rearrangement to make sense: Legend of the Hero in the Demon Area

also the Japanese Schedual for release is 6 months per vol. Vol8 was release 9/25/08, so vol9 will be in 3/25/09. The Chinese got their release for vol8 around late Nov. There is/was a bi-weekly chapter rls in japan but i haven't seen any since May in 08.

[TheAlucid]

Originally Posted by frubam

and what exactly does "Ubel Blatt" mean? Well, it sounds cool at least .

According to various sources the native German translation of the word means something like 'Bad Leaf'. But one of the more literal translations could be 'Evil Blade'.

So the title the author was probably going for was 'Evil Blade'. Just to most native speakers the phrase usually intends something different.

[TheAlucid]

Originally Posted by KrebMarkt

I compared the french version and the english scanlation.
English scanlation is better to not say more
The way the dialogs has been simplified to bare minimum in the french translation is sad.
It is still a good purchase seinen book format, correct jacket & the omake translated.
By the way Ubel Blatt french editor is also doing Kurokami in french.

French Bande Dessiné, Manga & Comics market is rather strong among world top 5.

Sorry to hear about the difference in translation qualities. My guess is that most unofficial English translators take artistic license and elaborate on phrases which would usually appear a bit more dull.

Glad to hear that it's running strong on the world stage though, as I stated before: Hate it when a good series gets dropped because of a lack of readers.

[Hs Vi Germania]

Originally Posted by frubam

and what exactly does "Ubel Blatt" mean? Well, it sounds cool at least .

ehm.... if i translate the words separately:


sick ; leaf

but in combination it would had been written:

Übles Blatt... what also hasn't a true meaning.

So I dislike this title.^^

Elfenlied was at least a real word and meant "song of elfs"


So far^^

[Avisch]

Started reading the manga today. Finished all scanlated chapters today.

This has turned out to be one of the best seinen manga I've read.
Overall, I really like seinen manga cause most of the time they have dark stories. And this also has that whilst also being partially light hearted.

The sex in it really surprised me. I haven't seen that much in seinen manga (sure you see undertones though). I thought scene between Koinzell and Altea was pretty funny

Spoiler for scene:

When he refused to "service" her until she told him that the 7 heroes would be meeting.

I really gotta compliment the manga-ka for some grade A pacing. The development has been very good.

Complaints? I agree on the bit about the villains. Evil for the sake of evil gets kind of old
the only interesting antagonists have come about in volume 5 (Ikfes and Elsarea). So maybe things will get better.

It reminds me a bit of Immortal Regis in terms of presentation. But overall I find it much better because the pacing difference (immortal regis goes too fast to have any good character development).

Spoiler for What I'm confused at:

The story still hasn't explained what happened to Klon and Elenje all the way back in volume 0. They weren't important characters, but it confuses me

[Luminisk]

*sigh* I finally gave into the temptation of looking at the raws (looking not reading); I'll probably hate myself later for spoiling it.

Spoiler for Spoiler:

Ato's breast size is AA... I think, and i'm good with that; then again I am biased toward anything beyond C, but to each his own. As for her going toe to toe with Elsarea, which was pretty good, and taking a level in badass after a lick down by Koinzell I think I'm becoming an Ato fan.

Glen's fight seemed a bit anti-climatic relative to the first 2, but since that is where the volume ends I'll withhold my judgment.

[Anh_Minh]

Spoiler for Volume 8:

I can't believe Glen would die so early (I thought he'd be last), but then again, I can't believe Koinzell would miss the vitals.

Also, what's his deal? Has he made some kind of heel face turn since his betrayal?

On another note: it's nice to see Koinzell isn't trying to hard not to kill the good guys trying to kill him.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Spoiler for Volume 8:

I can't believe Glen would die so early (I thought he'd be last), but then again, I can't believe Koinzell would miss the vitals.

Also, what's his deal? Has he made some kind of heel face turn since his betrayal?

On another note: it's nice to see Koinzell isn't trying to hard not to kill the good guys trying to kill him.

The gist of the latest scanlated chapter pretty much summed it up.

There were a million and one ways towards solving their clash of interest 20 years ago and Glen is just pondering the mistakes of his youth by choosing the most jealousy-fueled one.

Like the woman said, even if the 4 Lances had to die, there was absolutely no reason to smear dirt in their names by calling them traitors. It adds to nothing other than making the 7 losers seem a little bit more glorified by taking out some traitors.

It doesn't change the fact that the majority of the 7 remained as asses though, even if Glen had matured a bit.

[Anh_Minh]

Hm, what? Do you mean you actually bought his story? Maybe he has matured a bit. Maybe he's just throwing her a bone so she won't cause trouble, or because he pities her. Or maybe he's just better than the others at keeping in character as a "hero".

[TheAlucid]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

The gist of the latest scanlated chapter pretty much summed it up.

There were a million and one ways towards solving their clash of interest 20 years ago and Glen is just pondering the mistakes of his youth by choosing the most jealousy-fueled one.

Like the woman said, even if the 4 Lances had to die, there was absolutely no reason to smear dirt in their names by calling them traitors. It adds to nothing other than making the 7 losers seem a little bit more glorified by taking out some traitors.

It doesn't change the fact that the majority of the 7 remained as asses though, even if Glen had matured a bit.

Mmm, the important thing here though was that he wasn't even remotely honest, the only thing he did was remove a bit of the scandal surrounding the four.

Instead of the seven killing them for being traitors, they killed them because they wanted to go off on some idiotic scheme for peace. The story still misses the fact that the seven were the actual betrayers, albeit I doubt Glen would throw in that fact even if he was entirely altruistic.

[Wargumm1i]

Who is it that kills Glen?

[TheAlucid]

Originally Posted by Wargumm1i

Who is it that kills Glen?

Spoiler:

I'm not actually certain if Glen is actually dead yet, but Koinzell catches up with Glen in volume 8 and slashes him across the chest in a very quick and non-dramatic manner.

The last panel shows Glen's face a mask of shock bordered by vast quantities of his blood and Koinzell's eyes, also bordered by Glen's blood. But while the gash looks fatal the death isn't confirmed, as it's the very end of the volume.

[Toreno]

Originally Posted by frubam

and what exactly does "Ubel Blatt" mean? Well, it sounds cool at least .

It doesn't sound cool at all in German. (disregarding that it has to be "Übles Blatt" ^^)

Originally Posted by Hs Vi Germania

sick

"Übel" can also mean "evil"/"bad".

[Hs Vi Germania]

Originally Posted by Toreno

It doesn't sound cool at all in German. (disregarding that it has to be "Übles Blatt" ^^)



"Übel" can also mean "evil"/"bad".

Dito. It sounds ugly if u know the meaning.
And I also know what it means in German ... nur mal so nebenbei

[Anh_Minh]

Personally, I thought it meant "evil cockroach", which referred to how hard to kill Koinzell was...

[Wargumm1i]

Bah i wished Ubel Blatt would release more quickly.