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2013-03-27, 12:46 | Link #23 |
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Uzumaki's were chosen because they live for so long and they specialise in sealing techniques. If the Sage was an Uzumaki then he should have had the trademark Uzumaki red hair and in that case his offsprings should have red hair too. Yet none of the Senju or Uchiha (his direct offsprings) have a hint of red hair.
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2013-03-27, 13:16 | Link #24 | ||
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Also don't forget Karin who apparently is able to give chakra to other people which is the same thing that kyuubi+Naruto can do when Naruto is in kyuubi-mode. (Naruto also did it when Chiyo revived Gaara). Quote:
We don't know what hair color the sage had, could be black too. I also forgot in my earlier post one more hint about the connection (at least i regard it as a hint): the Uzumaki clan can do very advanced sealing jutsu, more advanced than anyone else (just remember the special Uzumaki mask used by Orochi to summon the death god). We also know that the sealing of the tailed beasts comes from the Sage, and there are some other artifacts that have very advanced sealing powers that we saw in this war that also come from the sage. I think it's obvious that this specific sort of sealing power/knowledge is a very special kind of jutsu and there's a similarity here between the Uzumaki clan and the Sage. Anyway i don't say that the sage was an Uzumaki, just that there are some hints that point to that direction. |
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2013-03-27, 13:48 | Link #25 |
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Well Naruto is not a pure Uzumaki. And if Minato and Kushina had had the time to get married, his name would not even be Uzumaki Naruto but Namikaze Naruto.
If the Sage is truly an Uzumaki then he has red hair, otherwise he's either not an Uzumaki at all or only half an Uzumaki, and in that case there also goes half your argument.
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Did the Sage rape the 10-tails and then the 10-tails gave birth to 2 children or was it the other way? |
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2013-03-27, 15:47 | Link #28 |
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Well if in the Naruto world the genetic rules were different, actually the opposite, also if inbreeding meant that abilities are retained and even enhanced. And more importantly if the clan members never fell in love with anyone outside the clan or it was forbidden. Also it means that Sasuke's words about reviving his clan at the beginning of the manga were lies, since he can't revive a clan without any Uchiha girls around. If all this were true then you are right, but i doubt it.
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2013-03-27, 17:54 | Link #29 |
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That's actually what was going on. Sasuke's mom and dad were both pure Uchiha, Uchiha Itachi had a girlfriend within the Uchiha clan, etc etc. They did this to make sure their Sharingan would survive.
Also, Uchiha Sasuke at the beginning of Part 1 knows very little, if anything about his clan's history. He was a child who knew nothing about all the powers of the Sharingan and the capabilities of the Uchiha. Obviously to him, it wouldn't be a problem to partner with a regular girl. I'm pretty sure Obito said that the Senju did this as well, and to me it seems very likely the Uzumaki did so too. Also just to be clear just because they partner with clan members does not mean it's technically inbreed. It's not like everyone in the Uchiha Clan were brothers or sisters. When Sasuke was exploring the Uchiha Clan area it seemed like there were a lot of clan members who were otherwise no direct family of his at all.
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also, straight from narutopedia: [The Uzumaki clan (うずまき一族, Uzumaki Ichizoku) was a prominent clan in Uzushiogakure. They were distant blood relatives of the Senju clan and as such, both were on good terms; an alliance that extended onto their hidden villages — Konohagakure and Uzushiogakure. The shinobi of Konoha integrated Uzushiogakure's symbol onto their uniforms and flak jackets as well as on the shoulders of their uniforms as a sign of friendship and goodwill between the two villages, and continue to do so to this day, in memory of their friendship even years after Uzushiogakure's destruction] so in other words, we don't know exactly whether the so6p was an uzumaki or not. him being uzumaki isn't necessary for kishi to explain why naruto resembles him. naruto simply being a distant relative of the so6p is enough to justify it |
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2013-03-28, 15:43 | Link #32 |
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Actually I'm pretty sure the Senju did this as well. Obito knew as much of his clan's history as Sasuke; absolutely nothing.
I don't think pairing with clanmembers was ever directly stated as a rule, I think it's more of an unwritten rule that came into existance when Konoha wasn't founded yet and there were still separate clans. As for the inbred thing, who knows. Maybe, maybe not. We don't know how the Uchiha got so big in numbers so it's honestly impossible to say. Both Uchiha and Senju started with one man.
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Narutos unique bijuu form might be a result of him having actual bijuu DNA.I don't know any other person conceived within a jinchuuriki. Chakra is defined as life energy ,so maybe like other nutrients the growing baby cells take in chakra from the mother.Bijuu chakra isn,t kept in a box,i believe it permeates through the Jinchuurikis body somewhat attached to the host chakra.Who knows,it's neat to think about.
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As for the very first post and the unique traits of the Great Senin... he was called a special priest but... in order to fight a god or demi-god in the form of the Jyuubi i'd say it's only natural that this Senin wasnt a normal human either. He was probably a demi-god or god himself. Since he died of old age... demi-god would be more likely.
He is the true founder of ninjutsu, genjutsu and all other kinds of jutsu's right? Which is why his reasoning about love and leadership was the entire theory of true peace in the world, reasoning beyond normal humans. Which Naruto will somehow discover since he has a special ability. Probably the human side and demonic jyuubi side in his two children caused things such as insanity, hatred, incest and manslaughter like its normal. Quote:
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Blade, the special vampire/human was born after his mother was bitten by a vampire. Which altered his DNA. Why is this relevant?Well thats because Naruto was born from a Jinchuuriki, she was one before pregancy and was one even after childbirth. However it was definetly a human, Minato who did the work on Kushina getting her pregnant. That was not the Kyuubi's work.
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Now if we can imagine how bijuu seal works we can maybe imagine how bijuu dna (dna is a bad word for this,lets just say bijuu chakra since bijuu might not even have dna as we know it)can get into a growing baby.First i believe that the seal is not a container but more the cork or wrapper,the body of the Jinchuuriki is the container.So where does the bijuu live while inside?we see Naruto in his mind confronts Kurama who is in a cage.But this cage and room are only imaginary places in Narutos mind.I think the bijuu chakra is within every cell of the Jinchuuriki along side the Jinchuurikis own chakra.Heck if the gold and silver brothers can eat part of kurama and then have kurama chakra that is definitly biologicaly absorbing the chakra.So maybe Kushinas egg already from the get go had Kurama chakra in it. I can think of other things like B's ability to turn his body parts into the 8tails. But i got to go to work Last edited by Monster0; 2013-04-10 at 06:14. |
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