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Eva would do something illegal? Nah, not poor, sweet, mentally scarred, crazy, spiteful Eva.
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2010-06-30, 19:29 | Link #12324 | |
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It's not that it's illegal that's the problem, it's more about having very long connections in very specialised circles, abroad, which a poor, sweet, mentally scarred, crazy, spiteful Eva cannot possibly have yet. Up about until George is born, The Pill falls under "unknown drugs or hard to understand scientific devices", sorry.
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2010-06-30, 20:25 | Link #12326 |
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If, in the narrative, no one can identify a problem with Natsuhi that would prevent her pregnancy, we can only conclude either that some generally unknown and unidentifiable circumstance prevented it, or Krauss has a problem.
The mere fact that Krauss is seeking treatments or methods for her to get pregnant could be projection. He fears his own sterility or relative inability to impregnate his wife, so he wants to believe it's all her fault. Kinzo would probably support that conclusion. Again, it makes perfect sense why they couldn't have a baby after all that time without any external problems if one of them is sterile, the only major issues are: 1) Where'd Jessica come from? Whose daughter is she? 2) Did Krauss try something crazy when he realized it was probably his fault? Does Natsuhi know about it?
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2010-06-30, 20:39 | Link #12327 |
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This might sound crazy, given what we're told, but what if the reason they didn't have any kids when Kinzo wanted them to was simply because they were not trying to? I could imagine Krauss putting something like that off beleiving he'd inherit everything even if he didn't.
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2010-06-30, 20:49 | Link #12328 | |
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I'd vote it possible, but what would be the consequences for the plot?
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2010-06-30, 20:50 | Link #12329 |
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It's somewhat possible. If Natsuhi was truly miserable in the early years of their marriage, what little we've seen of his good and romantic side would probably not push the issue. So if she didn't really want to have sex with him, he'd probably respect that. It was only by genuinely falling in love that they would even consider it, and who says they were in a hurry after that? Krauss would only be worried if he was somehow concerned that not producing a child first would deny his family the headship, or perhaps if he knew he wasn't getting the headship anyway. Or didn't want it.
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2010-06-30, 20:55 | Link #12330 |
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I vote that as improbable. While Krauss was probably not particularly concerned, Natsuhi believes that giving a heir to her husband is one of her primary duty as her wife.
So what do you know... maybe Krauss faked his orgasms and Natsuhi was to "pure" to know that men ejaculate.....
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2010-06-30, 23:25 | Link #12334 | |
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Edit: Is there even a reference to Natsuhi and Krauss being married for a decade before Kinzo gave them a child?
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2010-07-01, 02:19 | Link #12335 | |
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Numerous from Ep1 onwards.
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2010-07-01, 10:54 | Link #12337 |
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Minor observation.
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2010-07-01, 12:44 | Link #12338 |
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Erika, Nanjo, Kawabata and Okonogi call him "Kinzo-san"
Eva, Natsuhi and Rosa call him "Otosama". Including their younger self. Kyrie randomly switches between "Otosama" and "Otosan" Beatrice-2 called him "Kinzo" without onorifics Rudolf and Krauss call him "Oyaji" and occasionally "Otosan" Hideyoshi calls him "Otosan" Jessica, George and Battler call him "Ojisama", with only 3 single instances where Battler calls him "Ojisan". I can't find anything else but maybe I've missed a few. I couldn't find anything about Maria, except the adults quoting Maria when she said she received the umbrella from Kinzo. They use "ojisama" in that instance, but they might have changed that to fit their own style.
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2010-07-01, 12:51 | Link #12339 |
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So it looks like my observation is correct.
What do you think, can we use that to strongly connect Virgilia (Kumasawa, probably, because we never had any other candidates for Virgilia) with the Beatrice Letters, (at least the ones that match the style of the first one) rather than any onboard X-trice as we usually do?
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2010-07-01, 13:01 | Link #12340 |
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Yes I was merely completing your list, however I wouldn't say that Shannon is different from the other servants. If we include ep5-6 we have enough instances that confirms she uses "Master" like everyone else.
But, of course, Gohda and Kumasawa make no exception. You are right that in the letters it's always "kinzo-sama" that it is used. However there's absolutely no human piece that use it on the gameboard. Among the non human Virgilia and Ronove both use it. Oh... I forgot to mention Beato always uses "kinzo" without any honorific just like Beatrice-2
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