2012-03-24, 00:48 | Link #162 |
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This is the final image from the Tea Party end. This end is the happy ending to Homura's route, and the True End of the game as a whole. All the girls are alive, and Madoka didn't contract.
Gotta love the line "This is my prayer, my wish...". As some anon in 4chan said, it's much nicer than "Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you, etc." from the anime.
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2012-03-24, 02:09 | Link #163 |
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other ending pic Anime End Game version Kyoko End Bad End
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2012-03-24, 03:30 | Link #164 | |
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A 3P end is also fine too anyway.
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2012-03-24, 04:21 | Link #166 | |
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As long as Homura keeps her harem happy, everything will be fine. lol
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2012-03-24, 11:06 | Link #169 | |
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2012-03-24, 14:24 | Link #170 | |
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A common question for the game - does every route has different branches and endings? I'm not anywhere deep into Madoka's one yet, but I've already encountered a scene choice (Madoka/Mami/Sayaka)on the map, and after watching Sayaka's scene, the other two were gone. Also, I like the folk tints in the OST, but will there be at least one track from the series?
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2012-03-24, 16:21 | Link #171 | |
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Long story short, Madoka at the end wouldn't have contracted if Homura would have won against Walpursgis. It just so happened that Homura couldn't do it alone. No matter what QB does, Madoka won't contract as long as she doesn't really need to (and I'm talking Walpurgis sort of need). That's why, after Walpurgis, there's not reason for her to contract.
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2012-03-24, 18:35 | Link #172 | |
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While I think that Kyubey would use every avenue available to him to try to contract with Madoka, I think that once those are exhausted, he would move on. If Madoka sees Mami die and/or sees Sayaka descent while being a Puella Magi, I think that it makes sense that the Puella Magi role will become unattractive to Madoka, and something she'd only be willing to take on for a Walpurgis-level (or greater) need, as you say. To me, the anime was pretty clear that if Homura can... 1) Make Madoka view the Puella Magi role as something with a definite and potentially lethal downside to it, and... 2) Clear the WN hurdle, That Madoka would likely not become a Puella Magi afterwards. Homura accomplished the first part of that, she just failed to accomplish the 2nd part of that.
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2012-03-24, 22:33 | Link #173 | |
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Tatsuya is hit by a car. He becomes a vegetable and will never wake up. Hitomi gets cancer. The 2011 Japanese Earthquake (lol) Madoka has a car accident after getting her driver's license and her friend Someone-chan is permanently crippled because of her. Some psycho attempts to rape Madoka while she's walking home from high school. Kyubey appears. I can go on and on. To say that there will never be a situation where Madoka isn't tempted by the prospect is simply naive.
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2012-03-24, 23:02 | Link #175 | |
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I don't think it's completely naive. Some teenagers reach adulthood without experiencing personal tragedy on the level that you're referring to in most of your examples. It's not inconceivable that Madoka could also reach adulthood without personal tragedy striking her (beyond what it already has, in any event). And even if she does get struck by another instance or two of personal tragedy, it's not inconceivable that she'd resist the temptation to become a Puella Magi if Kyubey happens to show up again (the idea of him constantly hounding her for years with her repeatedly saying "no" honestly seems a bit silly to me - Madoka has high magical girl potential, but eventually Kyubey is being really wasteful in trying in vain to complete a very hard sell when he could be spending that time contracting with countless other much more willing girls). And Kybuey specifically (and seemingly exclusively) targets teenage girls. If and when Madoka reaches adulthood, she's no longer a teenage girl. I strongly disagree with the idea that the anime ending is the only viable outcome. Why would somebody even play this game unless they were willing to accept different outcomes? Isn't that the whole point of a game like this?
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2012-03-24, 23:47 | Link #176 | |
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It's obvious Urobuchi thought things that way from the very beginning. The fact that in the anime Homura tells Kyoko that she was planing to leave town if she defeated Walpurgis makes that very clear!!!!
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2012-03-25, 00:37 | Link #177 | |
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The reason I think it's the only viable option, atleast among the ones we've been shown, is because the anime ending means that whatever Kyubey does doesn't matter anymore. Now without the anime ending, witches still exist--what stops Kyubey from creating another chain of events even worse than what happens with the cast? This is a non-issue with the anime ending, ofcourse--as there are no witches whatsoever to worry about.
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That being said, while I did give EXTREME examples, the point I'm making remains valid. Just because Walpurgisnacht is defeated doesn't really mean jack. Bad shit can still happen, and it doesn't even need to happen to HER; Madoka is a self-sacrificing person by nature. What if World War III is going to break out, for instance, and she has the knowledge that she can prevent it with a simple wish? Quote:
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Given episode 11's conclusion, i'm not sure she's psychologically able to cope with pondering the prospect that defeating Walpurgis after all this time won't change anything and that she'll have to guard Madoka her entire life and deny her any sort of free agency, or else have to start ALL OVER AGAIN... Also, what happens if Walpurgis is defeated, and then a week later, a construction beam falls on Madoka's face? OOPS RESET LOL hope you can defeat Walpurgis again. You only did it once after 598 attempts but maybe you can do it twice in a row, right?
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2012-03-25, 02:40 | Link #179 |
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Urobuchi supervised this. He specifically said the only route that didn't fit in the context of the anime was the bonus route. That means that the "tea party" ending from Homura's route is a canon possibility in the context of the anime. It also fits with what Homura told Kyoko back then.
If you don't like it, that's find. But this is how Urobuchi thought things through. Whether it makes perfect sense is another thing though. Is that what you're complaining about? Because if that's the case, not even the anime itself makes perfect sense, so that point is kinda moot IMO.
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Then something bad happens, and Madoka learns of it, and Kyubey is around. Seriously, there is nothing in that ending that actually indicates that things are gonna be fine forever, or that Homura isn't just deluding herself into thinking she overcame her final obstacle. Shit happens, and that's how shit rolls, and if anything happens to Madoka, if she just DIES for non-Puella Magi reasons, Homura should be reset. ...Hell, for all we know, even if Madoka dies of old age, Homura will reset, presuming she's alive. But honestly, none of that really matters. The point is I don't buy for a second that this ending is as innocuous as it appears.
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