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Fate lover · 2008-01-06, 06:30

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Originally Posted by yourhead

Is there even a single trustworthy evidence that there will be a season 2?

Elfen Lied is great, I love endings like that. Lucy being dead or alive? The decision is yours.

You may like it but I don't like the curiosity which arose from it. It is true what they post on other forums that the ending leaves majority of the audience in an unhappy state because the ending is not what majority people wanted.

Phantasmagoria · 2008-01-06, 06:35

Oh well..

It's obviously Lucy, isn't it?

Raptor73 · 2008-01-06, 06:39

Elfen Lied was not intended to be happy, it is not a happy story, so having a happy ending almost seems to undermine the intent of the entire show. It seems silly to have Lucy go on a murderous rampage, kill dozens of people, and then live happily ever after. Where is the morality in that!? I know a number of people believe that Nyuu and Kouta should be together at the end, but realistically that is not a ending worthy of Elfen Lied. If you want a happy ending, then there are plenty of other anime's out there catering for that need.

Phantasmagoria · 2008-01-06, 06:45

Huh? Did anyone asked whether Elfen Lied is intended to be happy or sad?

Raptor73 · 2008-01-06, 06:56

I went off on a little rant there, my point being that Elfen Lied should have a clear cut sad ending, and that even that glimmer of hope should never have been put into the series, since it does tend to diminish the point of the story. Lucy should have been confirmed dead rather than having a shadowy figure appear at the door. I really didn't like that ending.

Phantasmagoria · 2008-01-06, 07:02

I see..

They really should just kill her off if it's meant to be sad..
Yet,there's a shadow that doesn't utter a sound , a weird grandfather's clock re-working, and the music box..

Slowly, I begin to understand why some people dislike the ending.

Good point, Raptor73.

Fate lover · 2008-01-06, 08:02

It is not dislike but rather not satisfied with the ending(To put it in a proper manner). It is never bad for anyone to turn over a new leaf. The only reason Lucy went on a killing rampage because of the mistreating she have undergone in her past and kouta is the only one who acknowledge her. She never wanted to kill from the start but the surrounding and her vectors forced her to become a monster. Lucy/Nyuu is quite a good-natured person. So, it is not a phenomenal if the ending turns out to be happy

By the way, there will most probably be a season 2 and rumor says it is now being made in Japan.(hope it is true though

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PastPrime · 2008-01-06, 10:29

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Originally Posted by Raptor73

Elfen Lied was not intended to be happy, it is not a happy story, so having a happy ending almost seems to undermine the intent of the entire show. It seems silly to have Lucy go on a murderous rampage, kill dozens of people, and then live happily ever after. Where is the morality in that!? I know a number of people believe that Nyuu and Kouta should be together at the end, but realistically that is not a ending worthy of Elfen Lied. If you want a happy ending, then there are plenty of other anime's out there catering for that need.

I don't think that she would live happily ever after with any ending. If she lived then she would probably spend the rest of her life trying to make up for what she had done. Later in the story, near the end of the manga, she gets to truely redeem herself, at least as far as Kouta is concerned.
And, while she shares the blame for what she did, she was really a pawn in someone else's plan. If a Pit Bull that was raised to kill kills someone who is ultimately to blame, the Pit bull or the person who raised it to kill.

Phantasmagoria · 2008-01-06, 10:59

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Originally Posted by PastPrime

I don't think that she would live happily ever after with any ending. If she lived then she would probably spend the rest of her life trying to make up for what she had done. Later in the story, near the end of the manga, she gets to truely redeem herself, at least as far as Kouta is concerned.
And, while she shares the blame for what she did, she was really a pawn in someone else's plan. If a Pit Bull that was raised to kill kills someone who is ultimately to blame, the Pit bull or the person who raised it to kill.

Truly redeem herself?? Wow, I wished I could get my hands on a copy of the manga.

Anyway, did Lucy survive in the manga? I want some spoilers >.>

*EDIT*

Never mind, I just found out about the ending.

Spoiler for HEAVY SPOILER! Lucy Alive or DEAD!?!?!:

PastPrime · 2008-01-06, 18:38

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Originally Posted by yourhead

Truly redeem herself?? Wow, I wished I could get my hands on a copy of the manga.

Anyway, did Lucy survive in the manga? I want some spoilers >.>

*EDIT*

Never mind, I just found out about the ending.

Spoiler for HEAVY SPOILER! Lucy Alive or DEAD!?!?!:

Spoiler for Manga Ending:

Fate lover · 2008-01-06, 18:54

Who was it that is using Lucy? What happened to the director general daughter,Anna anyway? She is so huge and can even predict the future.....Man, does anyone know where to purchase the elfen lied manga volume in Sarawak,Malaysia?

PastPrime · 2008-01-06, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Fate lover

Who was it that is using Lucy? What happened to the director general daughter,Anna anyway? She is so huge and can even predict the future.....Man, does anyone know where to purchase the elfen lied manga volume in Sarawak,Malaysia?

You ought to move these questions over to the manga thread. However, in regards to Annah

Spoiler:

Fate lover · 2008-01-06, 23:47

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Originally Posted by PastPrime

You ought to move these questions over to the manga thread. However, in regards to Annah

Spoiler:

I see, so Anna actually despise her father and wanted to save Lucy, is it? Really? I thought diclonius undergoes mutation to get those horns and powers.....Did Lucy mother inherited the vector virus too? Kakuzawa was killed by Lucy? How about the female scientist who help Kakuzawa and what happen to that ponytail guy who loves candy and his three Mariko's?

abood42 · 2008-01-07, 09:07

elfen lied really expresses the feeling of people who are different in the eyes of others and oppressed by them i a 18 year old in a wheelchair understand lucy perfectley as i am seen as a freak by everyone just because of my wheelchair ,lucy had the right to use her powers against people who thought of her as a demon a bad sign or different the truth is were all humans and we all have feelings yet people do not accept what is different from them lucy is lucky in my oppinion to have her powers cause in real life people who are different are defensless against those who opress them

PastPrime · 2008-01-07, 10:11

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Originally Posted by Fate lover

I see, so Anna actually despise her father and wanted to save Lucy, is it? Really? I thought diclonius undergoes mutation to get those horns and powers.....Did Lucy mother inherited the vector virus too? Kakuzawa was killed by Lucy? How about the female scientist who help Kakuzawa and what happen to that ponytail guy who loves candy and his three Mariko's?

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=373
I replied in the Manga Elfen Lied thread.

Arcwave · 2008-01-07, 11:12

Elfen Lied is truly a terrific tragedy done right. It's what boosted my interest in anime again, as well as friends of mine. Everything about it appealed to me: the story, visuals, music, etc. At first, I didn't really like the idea of a second series, but as I think about it, it actually wouldn't be that bad. Time can only tell!

Phantasmagoria · 2008-01-07, 13:42

Anyone knows of similar anime like Elfen Lied?

bongky · 2008-01-07, 19:14

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Originally Posted by abood42

elfen lied really expresses the feeling of people who are different in the eyes of others and oppressed by them i a 18 year old in a wheelchair understand lucy perfectley as i am seen as a freak by everyone just because of my wheelchair ,lucy had the right to use her powers against people who thought of her as a demon a bad sign or different the truth is were all humans and we all have feelings yet people do not accept what is different from them lucy is lucky in my oppinion to have her powers cause in real life people who are different are defensless against those who opress them

Dude...I fully concur with you. I am sorry to hear you are using a wheelchair but need not feel down. It's not what others take you for but it's what you think of yourself that makes all the difference. No matter how people treat you or what they think of your action...just keep in mind..at the end of the day it's not between you and them but it's between you and your god. Just like Lucy, even if other despise her, she is still able to live on although it seems to be like hell to the rest of us. I admire your will and courage and I also salute you for your taste on anime. You really rock...seriously.

Fate lover · 2008-01-07, 19:14

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Originally Posted by abood42

elfen lied really expresses the feeling of people who are different in the eyes of others and oppressed by them i a 18 year old in a wheelchair understand lucy perfectley as i am seen as a freak by everyone just because of my wheelchair ,lucy had the right to use her powers against people who thought of her as a demon a bad sign or different the truth is were all humans and we all have feelings yet people do not accept what is different from them lucy is lucky in my oppinion to have her powers cause in real life people who are different are defensless against those who opress them

I am sorry to hear this but not everyone in this world is evil. It is just their perception of people that makes them keep a distant from those who are different from them. These bunch o people are fools and the real monster in society and should be taught a lesson, I broke my leg last year and is now experiencing pain from time to time....I understand how you feel but there is always someone who would lend out a helping hand. This will have to depend on your fate...=).Sometimes it is not what others think that is important but what you think of yourself that counts. I think in the end Lucy change her attitude because she wanted to apologize to Kouta and think herself as a burden to the people at Maple Inn but she wanted to protect Kouta. This makes her think that she is a guardian to Kouta and went to take on the rest of the SAT. People are often unreasonable, illogical and self-centered; forgive them anyway cause at the end of the day, it is not between you and them but it is between you and the Creator. Thanks Past Prime for the information

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Originally Posted by PastPrime

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=373
I replied in the Manga Elfen Lied thread.

Then what happened to the last Mariko? She still has the virus with her...

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Originally Posted by yourhead

Anyone knows of similar anime like Elfen Lied?

There is not one anime that is similar to one another. That what makes anime so interesting and original.

bongky · 2008-01-07, 19:21

Yes...indeed Elfen Lied is a very outstanding anime as it can somehow show me the evil site of human and express it in a way so unique until it is unheard of before. Humans often take themselves to be the best creation of God thus that's why they despise all beings which are different or have a different attitude compared to them. Elfen Lied truly show me the dark site of human beings and it is perfectly logical to think why Lucy hated humans so much.

If I were to rate this anime, I would give it a 5 out of 5 as of all the anime which I have seen, Elfen Lied without a doubt is the best anime I have ever seen.

2008-01-06, 06:39	Link #2083
Raptor73 ブラック・ロック・シューター Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia.	Elfen Lied was not intended to be happy, it is not a happy story, so having a happy ending almost seems to undermine the intent of the entire show. It seems silly to have Lucy go on a murderous rampage, kill dozens of people, and then live happily ever after. Where is the morality in that!? I know a number of people believe that Nyuu and Kouta should be together at the end, but realistically that is not a ending worthy of Elfen Lied. If you want a happy ending, then there are plenty of other anime's out there catering for that need. __________________

2008-01-06, 06:56	Link #2085
Raptor73 ブラック・ロック・シューター Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia.	I went off on a little rant there, my point being that Elfen Lied should have a clear cut sad ending, and that even that glimmer of hope should never have been put into the series, since it does tend to diminish the point of the story. Lucy should have been confirmed dead rather than having a shadowy figure appear at the door. I really didn't like that ending. __________________

2008-01-06, 08:02	Link #2087
Fate lover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Home of the Hornbills	Nope It is not dislike but rather not satisfied with the ending(To put it in a proper manner). It is never bad for anyone to turn over a new leaf. The only reason Lucy went on a killing rampage because of the mistreating she have undergone in her past and kouta is the only one who acknowledge her. She never wanted to kill from the start but the surrounding and her vectors forced her to become a monster. Lucy/Nyuu is quite a good-natured person. So, it is not a phenomenal if the ending turns out to be happy By the way, there will most probably be a season 2 and rumor says it is now being made in Japan.(hope it is true though) __________________ Illyasviel Von Einzbern

2008-01-06, 18:54	Link #2091
Fate lover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Home of the Hornbills	Oh my... Who was it that is using Lucy? What happened to the director general daughter,Anna anyway? She is so huge and can even predict the future.....Man, does anyone know where to purchase the elfen lied manga volume in Sarawak,Malaysia? __________________ Illyasviel Von Einzbern

2008-01-07, 11:12	Link #2096
Arcwave Filmmaker & Writer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 35	Elfen Lied is truly a terrific tragedy done right. It's what boosted my interest in anime again, as well as friends of mine. Everything about it appealed to me: the story, visuals, music, etc. At first, I didn't really like the idea of a second series, but as I think about it, it actually wouldn't be that bad. Time can only tell! Last edited by Arcwave; 2008-01-07 at 11:13. Reason: grammer

2008-01-06, 06:35	Link #2082
Phantasmagoria Senior Member Author Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dream	Oh well.. It's obviously Lucy, isn't it?

2008-01-06, 06:45	Link #2084
Phantasmagoria Senior Member Author Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dream	Huh? Did anyone asked whether Elfen Lied is intended to be happy or sad?

2008-01-06, 07:02	Link #2086
Phantasmagoria Senior Member Author Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dream	I see.. They really should just kill her off if it's meant to be sad.. Yet,there's a shadow that doesn't utter a sound , a weird grandfather's clock re-working, and the music box.. Slowly, I begin to understand why some people dislike the ending. Good point, Raptor73.

2008-01-07, 09:07	Link #2094
abood42 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008	elfen lied really expresses the feeling of people who are different in the eyes of others and oppressed by them i a 18 year old in a wheelchair understand lucy perfectley as i am seen as a freak by everyone just because of my wheelchair ,lucy had the right to use her powers against people who thought of her as a demon a bad sign or different the truth is were all humans and we all have feelings yet people do not accept what is different from them lucy is lucky in my oppinion to have her powers cause in real life people who are different are defensless against those who opress them

2008-01-07, 13:42	Link #2097
Phantasmagoria Senior Member Author Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dream	Anyone knows of similar anime like Elfen Lied?

2008-01-07, 19:21	Link #2100
bongky Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: On an island found at the equator beneath the home of the dragons	Yes...indeed Elfen Lied is a very outstanding anime as it can somehow show me the evil site of human and express it in a way so unique until it is unheard of before. Humans often take themselves to be the best creation of God thus that's why they despise all beings which are different or have a different attitude compared to them. Elfen Lied truly show me the dark site of human beings and it is perfectly logical to think why Lucy hated humans so much. If I were to rate this anime, I would give it a 5 out of 5 as of all the anime which I have seen, Elfen Lied without a doubt is the best anime I have ever seen.