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digitalmaster287 · 2008-07-21, 12:36

OK, after watching Rurouni Kenshin, Black Cat, Trigun and just now Avatar, I'm pretty much sick of the "its wrong to kill" morals in these animes. I want an anime (preferably shounen, though not limited to it) that actually ends off with a so called "bad" moral, in that its OK to kill some people and that people are beyond saving or something like that.

Spoiler for Death Note:

Something like the start of Monster would be good also with the whole him trying to save Johann when he turns out to be a mass murderer.

X10A_Freedom · 2008-07-21, 12:40

Hellsing and Black Lagoon have some very twisted morals with a high death rate.

Tripfag · 2008-07-21, 12:57

Kira was never meant to be considered a good guy.

Fynal_Fyre · 2008-07-21, 13:05

Black Lagoon for its lack of morality, and perhaps Evangelion if you want to see some really messed up stuff about humanity.

kk2extreme · 2008-07-21, 13:41

desert punk, full metal panic to some degree, second black lagoon

gantz and elfen lied - these shows are freaking bloody man

Rembr · 2008-07-21, 13:44

School Days.

Bad wolf · 2008-07-21, 14:18

Higurashi no naku koro ni.

oompa loompa · 2008-07-21, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad wolf

Higurashi no naku koro ni.

higurashi actually has a very very good morale behind it

Bad wolf · 2008-07-21, 15:42

O.o It does?

Shinigami_Mello · 2008-07-21, 17:23

It does D:
Well, you've seen the second season right? The last arc of the first season pretty much explains those morals. And then pretty much explores them in the second season.

But still, it's a GOOD watch.

And I agree with School Days, that definately has NO morals xD

Hayaku · 2008-07-21, 18:59

Well then, Code Geass might be suited here right? Lelouch thinks it is right to kill for his own purposes or what-not, or atleast, he is killing people ^.^even though this anime's second season hasn't concluded yet, maybe this can be something for you, unless you have already seen it, and if so, then I am all out of ideas

Kovensky · 2008-07-21, 19:03

I think he is watching it since Shirley is on his avatar

I miss her =p

Lelouch orders a whole massacre just for revenge and started a revolution... for revenge too.

kk2extreme · 2008-07-21, 19:11

kanokon, this show has no morals from start to finish, it is sitting on the borderline of being hentai anime.

btw if u dont mind hentai anime, there are some out there that have very good stories and have destroy any moral bounderies.

jigoku shojo, sending someone to hell is...

HayashiTakara · 2008-07-21, 19:42

Kodomo no Jikan, its about lolicon love.

Rayneing · 2008-07-21, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad wolf

Higurashi no naku koro ni.

Trust in your friends, never resort to violence, always seek help and never keep your problems to yourself.

These are clearly bad morals!

ganbaru · 2008-07-21, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rayneing

Trust in your friends, never resort to violence, always seek help and never keep your problems to yourself.

These are clearly bad morals!

We might add as well:
-never put tabasco on food just for fun
-hiding thing to your ( parannoid) friends
-hiding bodies in a garbage dump if it well know than it your playfield
...

Generic Asian Guy · 2008-07-21, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rembr

School Days.

Seconded.

You won't be disappointed.

Monkey D. Luffy · 2008-07-21, 22:46

Check out Paranoia Agent if you already haven't. It isn't promoting or praising bad morals but it touches alot on the issues of morality, social problems and things of that nature. It does it with a very harsh and sometimes even shocking style. It's a great series.

tbl · 2008-07-22, 02:09

Definitely Code Geass.

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni shows the worst and best of people - the same people.

Matrim · 2008-07-22, 04:28

Madlax - the good guys (if we can call them that since they are not that good and about 100% female

) are not above killing their enemies to put it mildly.

Black Lagoon - let's just say everybody is a criminal in that one.

Noir - the main characters are all assassins who murder people (lots of people, mind you) for a living and the viewers are clearly supposed to be on their side.

Red Garden - the group of main characters are in situation where they are forced to kill in order to survive. They don't like doing it but do it nevertheless, moral or not

And if you read manga, Battle Royale should be right up your alley - killings galore and there are all kinds and types and sorts of immoral bastards in it...including quite a few of the nominally good guys.

2008-07-21, 12:36	Link #1
digitalmaster287 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006	Anime with a "bad" moral OK, after watching Rurouni Kenshin, Black Cat, Trigun and just now Avatar, I'm pretty much sick of the "its wrong to kill" morals in these animes. I want an anime (preferably shounen, though not limited to it) that actually ends off with a so called "bad" moral, in that its OK to kill some people and that people are beyond saving or something like that. Spoiler for Death Note: Kinda like how Death Note would be if Kira won in the end and the world was changed. Something like the start of Monster would be good also with the whole him trying to save Johann when he turns out to be a mass murderer.

2008-07-21, 12:40	Link #2
X10A_Freedom Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Neo-Venezia...I wish!	Hellsing and Black Lagoon have some very twisted morals with a high death rate. __________________ Updated 11th May 2009: The Challenges of Creating a Neo-(something) Warning - Spoilers http://veniceorigination.blogspot.com

2008-07-21, 18:59	Link #11
Hayaku Ecchi go Boom 0(^.^)0 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: On Earth	Well then, Code Geass might be suited here right? Lelouch thinks it is right to kill for his own purposes or what-not, or atleast, he is killing people ^.^even though this anime's second season hasn't concluded yet, maybe this can be something for you, unless you have already seen it, and if so, then I am all out of ideas __________________ Anime-Planet.com - anime \| manga \| reviews

2008-07-21, 19:03	Link #12
Kovensky Timer Fansubber Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brazil Age: 34	I think he is watching it since Shirley is on his avatar I miss her =p Lelouch orders a whole massacre just for revenge and started a revolution... for revenge too. __________________ MPlayer FTW! Get my win32 build here; now with multithreading /me is usually idling on #mplayer@chat.freenode.net or #cccp@irc.rizon.net \SHAMEIMARU/

2008-07-21, 19:42	Link #14
HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	Kodomo no Jikan, its about lolicon love. __________________ http://htakara82.deviantart.com/

2008-07-21, 12:57	Link #3
Tripfag /co/ is superior. Join Date: Jan 2008	Kira was never meant to be considered a good guy.

2008-07-21, 13:05	Link #4
Fynal_Fyre Inactive Member Join Date: Nov 2007	Black Lagoon for its lack of morality, and perhaps Evangelion if you want to see some really messed up stuff about humanity.

2008-07-21, 13:41	Link #5
kk2extreme Your wife is hot... Join Date: May 2008 Location: At your house fixing A/C	desert punk, full metal panic to some degree, second black lagoon gantz and elfen lied - these shows are freaking bloody man

2008-07-21, 13:44	Link #6
Rembr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	School Days.

2008-07-21, 14:18	Link #7
Bad wolf Pacifist War Lord Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ohio, Holy Empire of Britannia Age: 29	Higurashi no naku koro ni.

2008-07-21, 15:42	Link #9
Bad wolf Pacifist War Lord Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ohio, Holy Empire of Britannia Age: 29	O.o It does?

2008-07-21, 17:23	Link #10
Shinigami_Mello All hail Oyashiro-sama Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Middle of Nowhere	It does D: Well, you've seen the second season right? The last arc of the first season pretty much explains those morals. And then pretty much explores them in the second season. But still, it's a GOOD watch. And I agree with School Days, that definately has NO morals xD

2008-07-21, 19:11	Link #13
kk2extreme Your wife is hot... Join Date: May 2008 Location: At your house fixing A/C	kanokon, this show has no morals from start to finish, it is sitting on the borderline of being hentai anime. btw if u dont mind hentai anime, there are some out there that have very good stories and have destroy any moral bounderies. jigoku shojo, sending someone to hell is...

2008-07-21, 22:46	Link #18
Monkey D. Luffy Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: U.S.A.	Check out Paranoia Agent if you already haven't. It isn't promoting or praising bad morals but it touches alot on the issues of morality, social problems and things of that nature. It does it with a very harsh and sometimes even shocking style. It's a great series.

2008-07-22, 02:09	Link #19
tbl Affably Evil Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hammerspace or Australia, I forget which	Definitely Code Geass. Higurashi no Naku Koro ni shows the worst and best of people - the same people. __________________ Destroy. Destroy. Destroy. Slowly, completely, gently beyond comparison, cruelly to the point of numbness, I'll violate your life. That's right. The instant I rip off your limbs, tear open your rib and pull out your intestines, biting into your neck as you scream in agony, chewing through your eyes as I ignore your pleas for mercy and spreading your brains on the ground like butter! I am sane, well more or less

2008-07-22, 04:28	Link #20
Matrim Naysayer?Fanboy?Wiseacre? Join Date: Dec 2005	Madlax - the good guys (if we can call them that since they are not that good and about 100% female ) are not above killing their enemies to put it mildly. Black Lagoon - let's just say everybody is a criminal in that one. Noir - the main characters are all assassins who murder people (lots of people, mind you) for a living and the viewers are clearly supposed to be on their side. Red Garden - the group of main characters are in situation where they are forced to kill in order to survive. They don't like doing it but do it nevertheless, moral or not And if you read manga, Battle Royale should be right up your alley - killings galore and there are all kinds and types and sorts of immoral bastards in it...including quite a few of the nominally good guys. __________________ 'The world we live in is always in darkness.' 'Yes, and that is why we seek light.'