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Hiroi Sekai · 2011-11-26, 04:20

I always looked at it from a different perspective from the very beginning. If Yuki dies at any point, Yuno's completely screwed. What's a diary that specifically stalks one person going to do if said person is dead?

Live together and die together, I suppose. The question then is what they'll do if they're the last survivors, like Reisuke said.

ookamigirl · 2011-11-26, 06:36

Yuno rules, while Yukkii is just hopeless.
Rei was an unexpected bonus. That kid sure snapped.
The kid was more dangerous than I expected, nice!
He sure gave those two a good run around.

miketyson · 2011-11-27, 12:19

I continue to be impressed with what Asread's doing: they're basically sticking to the source material, but whenever they make changes they're almost always changes for the better.

Episode 8 is no exception: it does a great job with some more of the more-dubious source material. There are some noticeably low-budget moments but nothing that significantly ruins the episode as a whole; this isn't a big-budget production and what budget there is is clearly going to the right moments.

Spoiler for some ep 8 details:

This is material that's better animated, I think. In color and with sound effects it's a lot more intense than I remember the manga stuff seemed.

The omake is pretty funny, and a good way to keep costs down (lol).

There's still some things about this episode I don't understand, and didn't understand in the manga, either:

Spoiler for specific details:

Also, there's what I think is a slight edit from the manga that makes a big, positive improvement:

Spoiler for manga => anime improvement (serious spoilers for this episode!):

All in all surprisingly more solid than I was expecting.

Marina2 · 2011-11-27, 12:27

Quick question (I don't have time watch this untill tomorrow)

Spoiler for ep.8 content:

Thanks
V
V

miketyson · 2011-11-27, 12:33

Marina2:

Spoiler for answer:

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konart · 2011-11-27, 14:45

Spoiler for Lelouch lives:

Jestersage · 2011-11-27, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by konart

Lelouch lives

Don't you mean Kaworu?

Come think of it, everyone in Mirai Nikki is more or less an expy to someone in Eva:
Yuki = Shinji
Akise = Kaworu
Minene = Misato
Yuno = a far more psychotic version of Mari (or technically the other way around)

konart · 2011-11-27, 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jestersage

Don't you mean Kaworu?

Come think of it, everyone in Mirai Nikki is more or less an expy to someone in Eva:
Yuki = Shinji
Akise = Kaworu
Minene = Misato
Yuno = a far more psychotic version of Mari (or technically the other way around)

No, the pose is almost 100% copy of what Lelouch took.

Jestersage · 2011-11-27, 23:40

Quick question: Why do you guys consider Yuno as the Goddess of Yandere? After I read Big order, I find the character Rin is even more crazy.

Hooves · 2011-11-27, 23:42

She was ranked #1 Yandere on ANN (I suppose that's the right site) while I assume the manga displays her scary *oh goodness yandere face* mode more then how the anime presents it? Especially with how she has been progressing with killing so many people in the name of Yukkii. *Please insert a picture of Yukkii as a God and Yuno as a maid saying "Anything for you Master!"*

GundamZZ · 2011-11-27, 23:52

I don't consider her as goddess of yandere, although she's more active than...say... Kaede. Yuno is attractive/scary at same time. She's also a quick thinker. Only new guy can outsmart her. It's somewhat refreshing. She is cold blood and calculating, and the next minute she's nice and warm. She is like queen of survivor games.

Unknown Soldier · 2011-11-27, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jestersage

Quick question: Why do you guys consider Yuno as the Goddess of Yandere? After I read Big order, I find the character Rin is even more crazy.

Have you read Mirai Nikki to the end?

Panzerklein · 2011-11-28, 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jestersage

Quick question: Why do you guys consider Yuno as the Goddess of Yandere? After I read Big order, I find the character Rin is even more crazy.

Watch or read the series into the end and you will know why she is called "Goddess of Yandere"

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Jestersage · 2011-11-28, 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Have you read Mirai Nikki to the end?

Yes, but Rin from Big Order is like Yuno (near the end) turned up eleven. Come think of it, she looks like Yuno a lot... EDIT: Oops, didn't realize it's the same mangaka who wrote it. That explained everything.

serenade_beta · 2011-11-28, 00:59

Spoiler for ep8:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jestersage

Quick question: Why do you guys consider Yuno as the Goddess of Yandere? After I read Big order, I find the character Rin is even more crazy.

Who knows? Yuno doesn't bring any fear or trauma as a "yandere". She's just the craziest and most broken of all "yandere"s. To be honest, I find it hard to consider her a "yandere" anyways though.

Kirroha · 2011-11-28, 03:35

Rin from Big Order isn't a yandere. She's a yangire.

Hiroi Sekai · 2011-11-28, 03:47

Boy, talk about your all time instances of brain failure. Without writing spoilers in this post, Yuki totally deserves to be in the current situation he's in. Hopefully we'll see something awesome happen next week as well, as this was a fun ride yet again.

Episode 9: Dangers of the Dog Park

Fnights · 2011-11-28, 07:59

Lol Yukiteru, you do the same stupid mistake over and over again, you don't listen to Yuno and trust strangers. I can't believe Yuno fall for a retard like this.

Btw, i'm start to read the manga and i'm at the same point of the tv serie now, i will read/watch both from now on (first the anime after the same manga chapter) they adapt it pretty well and close, some scenes are censored/pixelated but i guess producers uncut them in the bds.

8/10

coroloro · 2011-11-28, 08:58

Okay, I know nothing about the manga/other stuff and I have only seen up to episode 7 thus far. But I figured out a few episodes what this episode seems to kind of clarify to me as a potential scenario: Yuno has to keep Yuki alive to the VERY end, as without Yuki, Yuno's diary is useless. However, once he is the last person, she goes from vulnerable... to invincible! There's nothing he could do that she wouldn't know about, he'd be helpless before her, and if he put a foot wrong or turned her against him... then this would bring that scenario about, and I suspect we'll see it. The only chance he'd have is if she either changed her mind, or someone besides Yuki acted on their own to intervene... since Yuno's diary doesn't say anything about her or her own situations.

Just my supposition at this point.

-Coro

Sackett · 2011-11-28, 08:59

This whole episode (until the last 3 minutes) felt really clumsy.

I don't blame the adaption though. I think it's just that the material is clumsy and works better in a manga format then it does in anime.

Poor Yuki. He's finally decided he wanted friends and what happens? Oh yeah, he learns that nobody is going to like him for himself (except Yuno), just for what they can get from him.

2011-11-26, 06:36	Link #802
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Yuno rules, while Yukkii is just hopeless. Rei was an unexpected bonus. That kid sure snapped. The kid was more dangerous than I expected, nice! He sure gave those two a good run around. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2011-11-27, 12:19	Link #803
miketyson Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	I continue to be impressed with what Asread's doing: they're basically sticking to the source material, but whenever they make changes they're almost always changes for the better. Episode 8 is no exception: it does a great job with some more of the more-dubious source material. There are some noticeably low-budget moments but nothing that significantly ruins the episode as a whole; this isn't a big-budget production and what budget there is is clearly going to the right moments. Spoiler for some ep 8 details: This is material that's better animated, I think. In color and with sound effects it's a lot more intense than I remember the manga stuff seemed. The omake is pretty funny, and a good way to keep costs down (lol). There's still some things about this episode I don't understand, and didn't understand in the manga, either: Spoiler for specific details: In particular, when I read the manga I didn't get just how "enhanced" the dogs were when reading the manga; in the anime I was like "whoa" when I saw they were given steel teeth. I'd thought those were just harnesses for the tracking devices/radios, but hearing them go all clang-clang is a lot scarier. Does anyone know wtf the "dogmaster"'s deal actually is? I was hoping the anime would add some more exposition -- like it did with the 12th -- but I think not even Asread/Sakae know what that guy's supposed to be other than someone crazy about dogs. Is he like a kennel-owner gone nuts? Someone running some kind of trained dog show? Maybe he's a parody of some Japanese entertainer the audience would recognize? I see his place is called "Funny Dogs" / "Tsukishima Kennel" (I'm guessing is his 月島 is the family name?), but at least in the USA a kennel is where you'd leave your dogs when you went on vacation, so those wouldn't be his dogs (unless he went nuts awhile back, which isn't out of the question). Also, there's what I think is a slight edit from the manga that makes a big, positive improvement: Spoiler for manga => anime improvement (serious spoilers for this episode!): This episode makes it just past the sequence with the gang trapped inside the building, the dogs outside trying to get in, and Yuki using his diary to direct the defense effort. The way I remember the sequence in the manga is that Yuki started out by telling everyone "hey guyz, my phone tells me the future," people being dubious until he proved himself right, and then doing what he said. In this episode, he mans up first and takes initiative, giving people orders and proving he's right by blocking an attack. He gets his "man-mode" BGM to kick in, acts like a cool commander for awhile, and only when it's all done does he spill the beans on his diary. I think overall it works better this way: having Yuki man up a bit more is the right choice for the anime (even if it turns out to not have been the right choice for him, lol, you should listen to Yuno more often, Yuki!). My only major complaint is it dropped what's one of my favorite little moments in the manga: when he goes to investigate what happened to Hinata Yuno wants to know why he's going to such trouble, and Yuki's like "she's the first friend I've ever made...". I was waiting for a crazy Yuno reaction-shot, but it skipped right to the next scene. All in all surprisingly more solid than I was expecting. Last edited by miketyson; 2011-11-27 at 13:19. Reason: Clarified what the stuff in the spoiler tags was about

2011-11-27, 12:27	Link #804
Marina2 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Quick question (I don't have time watch this untill tomorrow) Spoiler for ep.8 content: - Where do they end this ep.? Spoiler for for manga reader: Is it the scene where Hinata reappeared? Thanks V V __________________ Last edited by Marina2; 2011-11-27 at 13:00.

2011-11-27, 12:33	Link #805
miketyson Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	Marina2: Spoiler for answer: Yes. Spoiler for precise answer: There's enough time for her to say a couple things before the ED kicks in. . Last edited by miketyson; 2011-11-27 at 12:33. Reason: fixed the name

2011-11-27, 14:45	Link #806
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2011-11-27, 23:40	Link #809
Jestersage Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008	Quick question: Why do you guys consider Yuno as the Goddess of Yandere? After I read Big order, I find the character Rin is even more crazy.

2011-11-27, 23:52	Link #811
GundamZZ 残念美人 Join Date: Oct 2004	I don't consider her as goddess of yandere, although she's more active than...say... Kaede. Yuno is attractive/scary at same time. She's also a quick thinker. Only new guy can outsmart her. It's somewhat refreshing. She is cold blood and calculating, and the next minute she's nice and warm. She is like queen of survivor games. __________________ 流麗のヒステリア Hysteria of flowing beautifully 三つ腕のリヒティ Lichty of three arms 重剣のクロエ Chloe of giant sword 天啓のシスティーナ Sistina of Apocalypse 愛憎のロクサーヌ Roxanne of distinguished love and hate 万有のルテーシア Lutécia of everything 塵喰いのカサンドラ Cassandra of eating dust

2011-11-28, 03:35	Link #816
Kirroha Just... disturbed. Join Date: Dec 2009	Rin from Big Order isn't a yandere. She's a yangire. __________________ Play RE: Prince of Nigeria here!

2011-11-28, 07:59	Link #818
Fnights Yoku dekimashita! Join Date: Jun 2006	Lol Yukiteru, you do the same stupid mistake over and over again, you don't listen to Yuno and trust strangers. I can't believe Yuno fall for a retard like this. Btw, i'm start to read the manga and i'm at the same point of the tv serie now, i will read/watch both from now on (first the anime after the same manga chapter) they adapt it pretty well and close, some scenes are censored/pixelated but i guess producers uncut them in the bds. 8/10

2011-11-28, 08:58	Link #819
coroloro Member Join Date: Sep 2006	Okay, I know nothing about the manga/other stuff and I have only seen up to episode 7 thus far. But I figured out a few episodes what this episode seems to kind of clarify to me as a potential scenario: Yuno has to keep Yuki alive to the VERY end, as without Yuki, Yuno's diary is useless. However, once he is the last person, she goes from vulnerable... to invincible! There's nothing he could do that she wouldn't know about, he'd be helpless before her, and if he put a foot wrong or turned her against him... then this would bring that scenario about, and I suspect we'll see it. The only chance he'd have is if she either changed her mind, or someone besides Yuki acted on their own to intervene... since Yuno's diary doesn't say anything about her or her own situations. Just my supposition at this point. -Coro

2011-11-28, 08:59	Link #820
Sackett Cross Game - I need more Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: I've moved around the American West. I've lived in Oregon, Washington, Utah, and Oklahoma Age: 44	This whole episode (until the last 3 minutes) felt really clumsy. I don't blame the adaption though. I think it's just that the material is clumsy and works better in a manga format then it does in anime. Poor Yuki. He's finally decided he wanted friends and what happens? Oh yeah, he learns that nobody is going to like him for himself (except Yuno), just for what they can get from him. __________________ Cross Game - A Story of Love, Life, Death - and Baseball. What more could you want?