Log Horizon Anime General Discussion Thread (NO SPOILERS)

[FlareKnight]

I think it's understandable that the people in this situation are not quite so panicked as of yet (though obviously some are losing it). You just wake up in this video game world and there are more questions than answers. Unlike SAO there's no grand declaration explaining a damn thing about their situation so everyone is just figuring things out on their own. A lot easier to panic when you are pretty well told to panic. No one there has enough information to even freak out about yet.

People can still treat this like a game especially since they have no idea what happens when they get 'killed' there.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Quol

Generalizing is a bad thing to do. Like i said because they have a few similarities doesnt make them the same, otherwise we would see people asking what devil fruit naruto will eat to enhance his bankai.

And you once again dive into unimportant specifics.

Originally Posted by jeroz

They are natural explorers, not just a bunch of hikki. Having max level also gives them enough room for error. The immediate areas is NOT a threat to them

It's time like this that the true quality of the people is shown. And then the other two will just follow Shiro around

I'm not talking about the actions of the handful of main characters. I'm talking about the masses, some of whom are newbs, A lot of whom, I'm sure, left families behind.

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I think it's understandable that the people in this situation are not quite so panicked as of yet (though obviously some are losing it). You just wake up in this video game world and there are more questions than answers. Unlike SAO there's no grand declaration explaining a damn thing about their situation so everyone is just figuring things out on their own. A lot easier to panic when you are pretty well told to panic. No one there has enough information to even freak out about yet.

People can still treat this like a game especially since they have no idea what happens when they get 'killed' there.

I'd find it more panicking to not know what the hell is going on. Whether they get killed for real or not, they're still trapped in a strange world, cut off from 99.9% of humanity, and even their basic understanding of reality is void.

[erneiz_hyde]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

Probably philosophical. If we look at the author's past work which is maou yuusha. The maoyuu has some fighting elements but its more on the war elements with maou and yuusha finding ways to stop the war.

Wait, the maoyuu guy made this? So was this originated in an online thread as well?

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I'd find it more panicking to not know what the hell is going on. Whether they get killed for real or not, they're still trapped in a strange world, cut off from 99.9% of humanity, and even their basic understanding of reality is void.

I'll go with knowing you are utterly boned is far worse than not even being sure how much trouble you are even in. The unknown may be frightening but it's all about how things unfold. Dropped into a world with a chance to talk to people at your own pace about what is going on is infinity better than getting grabbed in the middle of confusion and having a "you are all doomed" message broadcasted right at you.

[Ridwan]

I heard this one "trapped in MMORPG" serial has better characters.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I'll go with knowing you are utterly boned is far worse than not even being sure how much trouble you are even in. The unknown may be frightening but it's all about how things unfold. Dropped into a world with a chance to talk to people at your own pace about what is going on is infinity better than getting grabbed in the middle of confusion and having a "you are all doomed" message broadcasted right at you.

But in SAO they had reasons to hope, at least at first. For one thing, their world wasn't completely changed, they were just trapped in a VR thing. They could just wait for the police to catch Kayaba or hack the server or something.

Here, well... Magic (by which I mean something completely ununderstandable) happened.

[Puu]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

But in SAO they had reasons to hope, at least at first. For one thing, their world wasn't completely changed, they were just trapped in a VR thing. They could just wait for the police to catch Kayaba or hack the server or something.

Here, well... Magic (by which I mean something completely ununderstandable) happened.

Well, they did wonder if it was a server error. The log out option did fizzle out after a server update. So, for now, they were probably more "Hrm. Maybe lets wait until it's all fixed?"

Though I can't remember whether the original game was a VR game or if it was an on-screen thing. I'd be infinitely more concerned if I'd been playing an on-screen game and woke up in a VR immersion game...

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Puu

Well, they did wonder if it was a server error. The log out option did fizzle out after a server update. So, for now, they were probably more "Hrm. Maybe lets wait until it's all fixed?"

Though I can't remember whether the original game was a VR game or if it was an on-screen thing. I'd be infinitely more concerned if I'd been playing an on-screen game and woke up in a VR immersion game...

It's not a VR game, nor do they even have that tech.
It's exactly like you described lol.

That's why Naotsugu was like wth? What happened to this game while I was gone?


EDIT: Episode 2 previews
http://www.nhk.or.jp/anime-blog/0120/169563.html

[s07195]

Came here because I liked Maoyuu (the LNs), and I'm hoping that Touno Mamare has also made this series something different.

Episode 1 was alright, a bit plain. We've got an introduction to the characters, but that's pretty much it so far. So the game is a mouse and keyboard MMO that sucked them into the game?

[Estavali]

I think one of the factors that contributed to the relative calm is that, despite being in a unfamiliar situation, most of the players are not alone. Except for the new expansion, it would have been pretty much yet another same old day of exploration, grinding and online chitchat for everyone. They would have friends, guilds and party members; in other words, people that they know and can relied on. As we have seen in the episode, one of the first things most people did was to join up with their friends and/or guildies, seeking assurance in numbers and familiar faces. In Akiba, it helps that the larger and/or more influential guilds are led by reliable people that could more or less keep the situation from descending into general anarchy.

Also, despite being labelled "the Catastrophe", the stranded players are actually much better off than they would be in a real disaster, some. First of all, regardless of their locations before the Catastrophe struck, the Adventurers were sent back to their respawn points in the player cities (for Japan/Yamato: Akiba, Shibuya, Minami, Suzukino and Nakasu), giving them a safe start. Their ingame money and possessions are still intact (the older players of course have more than the newbies). The issue of taste aside, there's no problem concerning food and it's easy to find a place to rest, be it an inn, a guild house or even out amongst the ruins of Akibahara. In addition, as Adventurers, the players now possess a more robust body than what they would have in the past, with the high-level folks, especially Fighters, essentially equivalent to superhumans.

(The fact that Mamare seems to have more faith in human goodness compared to, say, ButchGen, probably helped too )

From these factors, we can say that, once things die down, it's actually very hard for people to stay panicky for long. The real problem is whether they have a clear idea about what to do from there on, whether they would stagnate, or be proactive like Shiroe's company.

In the end, I think maybe it might have been better after all if the first two chapters were given an episode each to explore, so as to give a better idea on how the initial state of affairs had unfolded. OTOH, those two chapters, to use a gamer's term, are equivalent to tutorials: informative but slow, which might turn off folks new to LogHora. The production studio probably packed the first two chapters into one to get things rolling asap (which roughly starts from chapter 3~4 onwards) and the result is something that had managed to keep enough details intact but also gave a sense that things are unfolding a bit too quickly.

As for the tone of the series, it's quite down-to-earth imho. We have after all a writer who tackles, of all things, the issue of food first before branching out from there in his previous work; seemingly mundane but definitely very important

[nanyatimz]

Anyone who can provide the ED lyrics?

[NutShell]

watched ep1 very good opening and realistic gamer would do

lot people comparing this with same type anime

unlike a certain beta taster who play solo in death game, the main char in log horizon is a sociable type and leader type, in Raid Party a good Raid Leader that determine a whole party alive or slaughter. honestly until now i still didnt get why that beta taster alive until the end of game,

aside from that wathcing loli ninja made my day

[aohige]

Originally Posted by nanyatimz

Anyone who can provide the ED lyrics?

I didn't see any, so I'll just type it out from the video.

() = pronunciation difference

"Your Song*" by Yun*chi

ずっと　ずっと
zutto zutto

初めて君に触れた日　すごくドキドキした
hajimete kimi ni fureta hi sugoku doki-doki shita
だからついていこうって　心に決めた
dakara tsuiteikoutte (tsuiteyukoutte) kokoro ni kimeta

花や風の香りも　このスープの匂いも
hana ya kaze no kaori mo kono soup (su-pu) no nioi mo
消えちゃっても一緒にいられたらいいや
kiechatte mo isshoni iraretaraiiya
小さな　想いが膨らむ　音がした
chiisana omoiga fukuramu oto ga shita

聴こえる愛のうた　もっとそばにいさせて
kikoeru ai no uta motto soba ni isasete
色やかたちをかえ　守ってあげるわ
iro ya katachi wo kae mamotte ageruwa
聴こえる愛のうた　みつめていられるなら
kikoeru ai no uta mitsumete irarerunara
ぼやけた日々でさえ　愛しくなるわ
boyaketa hibi desae itoshiku naruwa

ずっと　ずっと
zutto zutto

[erneiz_hyde]

Btw, I just realized something. Not sure why, but seeing Shizuo and Akatsuki together somehow reminded me of Io and Tsumiki from Acchi Kocchi .

Also, I likened this to DT earlier, and it only occurred to me just now that we might have the Jun of this show! I find it weird that if we have a case like Akatsuki I didn't immediately thought of the opposite case.

[nanyatimz]

@Aohige-san

Sankyu desu~

[MartianMage]

Originally Posted by Benigmatica

BTW, will this show have any chance of having a separate forum? I think it deserves more than SAO or .hack//.

I'm not really sure about the criteria for a subforum but I'd just like to say that sometimes getting a subforum kills the discussion. IMO a series should only get a subforum if there's enough people discussing different topics about the show.

The Kannagi subforum is an evidence to that. I wasn't really pleased about it getting that subforum since less people talked about it after that... and yeah now the Kannagi subforum is retired.

[Benigmatica]

Okay, I'm not gonna talk about subforums. (My post got shot down!)

Now then, I wonder if those two kids will join Shiroe's party after he saved them? Maybe Nyanko will do it instead!

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by aohige

In the novels, fights and kill literally involves blood and guts, monsters don't just turn into coins and items like they did in the anime episode... it leaves a carcass.
If you want hides, you have to skin them. That gives a totally different atmosphere on the world than what the anime went with..

So.... its kinda brutal or realistic in the novel version.

I think the anime tone it down to make it more game like which I blame SAO for it. From the looks of it. They aren't stuck in a game but stuck in Alternative world if you ask me. It might feel like they are in a game but the game they are playing originally is from a desktop game and not virtual reality game.

Its more like DT. Where he was transported to another dimension while playing a game but here, they don't know what happen or how they got inside the game or their current world.

Originally Posted by Quol

If you need different topics to make a subforum then i think horizon fits, there could be topics per episode, a topic for the light novel, a separate topic for the SAO whiners, a theory discussion both light novel and anime ect.

But the chance if might decrease discussion is something i would not want...

I'm not even sure there is a light novel thread for log horizon. I tried to find one here but I haven't seen it yet. As well for the manga with 3 adaptation of the story.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

So.... its kinda brutal or realistic in the novel version.

I think the anime tone it down to make it more game like which I blame SAO for it. From the looks of it. They aren't stuck in a game but stuck in Alternative world if you ask me. It might feel like they are in a game but the game they are playing originally is from a desktop game and not virtual reality game.

And alternative world with menus and inventories.

[NorthernFallout]

I have a feeling id really like these novels.

But. Roones. ;_;