Campione!(カンピオーネ!) [Light Novel]

[Ultragunner]

Seriously, there is no need to show the actual "action", just make it happen and we readers will enjoy the before + after effects

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

or we can read the campione doujins only one of which i know

[senjiro]

Lol, we are getting used at sex in newest LN(re:monster,mushoku,arifuretá,máster of monster)

But in things as DxD(most cockblocker i ever see) campione, they only go as far as kissing and groping(dxd,shinmai maou)
So i dont expect anything serious. The only thing i want is godou accept that he is worse than his grandpa, nd notice he has a harem, and cut the absurd talk .

[DragoMuseveni]

well we can`t say that godou surpassed his grandfather ,his about to reach that level but can`t surpass yet .
and about this sex part , i like more this part when sex is postponed after the relationship gets deeper than the sex from the first volumes in the new LN

[senjiro]

Originally Posted by DragoMuseveni

well we can`t say that godou surpassed his grandfather ,his about to reach that level but can`t surpass yet .

and about this sex part , i like more this part when sex is postponed after the relationship gets deeper than the sex from the first volumes in the new LN

Well you can say that so quicm is no good, but so slow too..
In mushoku pass 6 vol until rudi do it...
In arifureta 24 ch.
In monster is quick, i master of monster too.
What i mean is if they notice the feelings, why wait?
In rakudai kishi stella offers sex to ikki(they are couple since vol. 1 ) and iki sáy no....
I want say this obsesion in editoriáls for no sex, is a little crap

[RpR1337]

Meh. Seriously.

Things don't always go smoothly. There are those things called circumstances, brother. And no, not all men are immune to circumstances. And no, not all women care about circumstances. Yes, sex only happens right away in an 'in medias res' style if both man and woman are immune to circumstances. Nope, that kind of story is rare.

And most importantly, nope, neither DxD nor Campione! are the type where everyone is immune to circumstances. Who should he sleep with first? How to tell that to everyone else? Most notably, how to tell the second that she's the second? The third that she's the third? And the fourth that (in this case) she's dead last? Even if there are feelings, feelings usually only complicate, and not facilitate these kinds of things. Especially in harem series. That's why they have to wait, and make it happen with the least amount of damages possible. And that, in a sense, is more realistic. Especially in harem series #2.

Well, if there's one thing I share your opinion, its the prude crap ... I don't mind when it happens, it just has to happen. We have too many series ending with a bam, but not with a ... well, bang ... ehm, well, forgive my rude way of trying to talk sense without age-sensitive language.

EDIT:
Oh, and forgot. Campione! and DxD are the kind of thick, and I do mean THICK stories. They have an insane amount of descriptive monologue and narration, and different sets of happenings. I mean, look at these series. We'll soon be 20 books in, 300 pages each on average, and not a single year went by.

Believe me, it's better to be elbow-deep into the story, the slow development of characters, the snail-like advancement of the main story, etc. when sex happens. The lines you read may be the same when you get to the sex scene in the 2nd volume or the 22nd volume respectively, but believe me, there will be 10 times as much info between the lines, as there are lines in the scene altogether, if its in the 22nd volume.
(Of course, that's my take on it, so due to preferences being varied, you might not agree. I fully support that too )

EDIT2: How is he worse than his grandpa? After all (and this seems to be something EVERYONE missed so far) the only people who talk about his grandpa (where half of the dialogue is about how they don't understand him) are either Shizuka (who hates his relations with women, and bases her opinion on her grandma's, she therefore has a negatively biased opinion), Godou (who's being terrorized by Shizuka, formerly by his grandma, he therefore has a negatively biased opinion), or the old of the town (who mainly just gossip, half of which might be misfires, they therefore have a negatively biased opinion).
Question: How exactly do you think Godou is worse than his grandpa, when we don't even know what his grandpa's like on the inside?

[Alyxis]

Originally Posted by senjiro

Lol, we are getting used at sex in newest LN(re:monster,mushoku,arifuretá,máster of monster)

But in things as DxD(most cockblocker i ever see) campione, they only go as far as kissing and groping(dxd,shinmai maou)
So i dont expect anything serious. The only thing i want is godou accept that he is worse than his grandpa, nd notice he has a harem, and cut the absurd talk .

You took the words right out of my mouth.

[Verrueckter]

Originally Posted by senjiro

I want say this obsesion in editoriáls for no sex, is a little crap

To me the idea that these guys are turning down these attractive girls is utterly unrealistic.

Hot chick: "Let's have sex."
Guy:"No, let's develop our feelings more."

THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN!

As for Godou though, if I recall the main reason (I think there a a few that he mentions though) he doesn't sleep with the girls is that he feels that giving in to his desires and using the girls as he wishes would dull his battle sense (or something like that). Seeing as how obsessed he is with victory it is at least more acceptable than guys wanting to "deepen their relationship first".

[Spica]

^^
Godou is the type of uptight people usually found on Asia who have a serious view on relationship. (Amplified by family situation here)

Their view on what's proper and what's not are usually very different for the majority of readers here.

Their thought process > sex= responsibility = marriage

Godou is quite similar like that, in fact Godou tried to take 'responsibility' in v11.

[Alyxis]

After what happened with Erica in volume 16 he can't still seriously expect to still play the fool in this issue. That would just put him on the same level as the protag of Infinite stratos

[Verrueckter]

Originally Posted by dithar

^^
Godou is the type of uptight people usually found on Asia who have a serious view on relationship. (Amplified by family situation here)

Their view on what's proper and what's not are usually very different for the majority of readers here.

Their thought process > sex= responsibility = marriage

Godou is quite similar like that, in fact Godou tried to take 'responsibility' in v11.

That would explain why so many protags act that way, I am usually under the assumption that all men would act on their instinctive impulse in that kind of situation regardless of culture.

[staplesdex2]

Still doesn't stop it from sounding something contrived. The MCs stop because of author or editorial intervention.

[nero12]

Originally Posted by dithar

^^
Godou is the type of uptight people usually found on Asia who have a serious view on relationship. (Amplified by family situation here)

Their view on what's proper and what's not are usually very different for the majority of readers here.

Their thought process > sex= responsibility = marriage

Godou is quite similar like that, in fact Godou tried to take 'responsibility' in v11.

rather than Asia i would like to believe that its like that only in Japan which puts a lot of importance on morals and ethics.

[Darkbacon]

Maybe I've been reading too much seinen since Campione is considered shounen right?

[Spica]

Originally Posted by nero12

rather than Asia i would like to believe that its like that only in Japan which puts a lot of importance on morals and ethics.

Its more common in the east than the west that's for sure, its not just in Japan though my country have a lot morals and ethics too.
In my country standards, what's proper and what's not for both male and female would be very different to a lot of people here.
Even if the younger generation there consider those outdated, there still exist people who thought like that.

So Its inevitable for Godou and majority of readers to have massive different on value systems, leading those who judge his actions base on their values to create conflicts.

Even in this series the only one with close enough value system to godou is Yuri. (like I said these kind of people are rare breed nowadays)
Imagine if this was just a love story between Godou and yuri without any other girls or supernatural elements, how do you guys think their relationship would progress?
It would be damn long, probably like 2 year to reach current stage.

[RpR1337]

Originally Posted by nero12

rather than Asia i would like to believe that its like that only in Japan which puts a lot of importance on morals and ethics.

That's not the problem in question. The problem is that it's mostly for show, without any sincerity.

Or maybe, they like to fool around (as Japan is one of the world's amateur porn capitals, it would be idiotic to suggest that their 'moral codes' have any weight behind them), but in case of a serious relationship, they shift gears into a more decent attitude? Who knows ... as for me, I enjoy the embarrassment, and how it's always overly stressed in romantic comedies, but meh ... sometimes, it really is just waaaaay too much.

[Ultragunner]

^ I know right.

it's clear that they are totally into each other, they also have gone through many life and death situations, trusting each other to the utmost limit so and this ain't some teenager romance bullshit

Seriously, put yourselves and perhaps our partners in these youngsters' shoes, what would you do?

[cadu_]

I want to know what is Godou waitting for?I mean,it`s clear they have feelings for each other...
Volume 16 Chapter 7 had a big progress but he could have gone all the way,it was very disapointing when he suddenly stopped and said its still too early.

[DarkSilverSky]

Originally Posted by cadu_

I want to know what is Godou waitting for?I mean,it`s clear they have feelings for each other...
Volume 16 Chapter 7 had a big progress but he could have gone all the way,it was very disapointing when he suddenly stopped and said its still too early.

We obviously can't understand the hearth of a immortal godslayer.
They could both end up dead in a few weeks or he migth die. Maybe he's afraid of stepping up.

[Vezon]

Originally Posted by cadu_

I want to know what is Godou waitting for?I mean,it`s clear they have feelings for each other...
Volume 16 Chapter 7 had a big progress but he could have gone all the way,it was very disapointing when he suddenly stopped and said its still too early.

Well remember Godou and the girls are only sixteen. He hasn't even known them for a year. For a sixteen year old "doing it" is a gigantic leap in their relationship and maturity too!