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But that shouldn't apply to Far Easterners.....since they're Earth natives no?
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2011-11-17, 20:05 | Link #62 |
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After watching episode 7, I'm curious about the Religion of the other Testament Factions. We more or less know how the Shinto Gods work for Musashi, but how does the Abrahamic Religion work for the other countries? How do they 'buy' their powers?
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2011-11-17, 20:24 | Link #63 |
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About the Gs
1 - Manifestation of the Power of Words (If you write "explosion 3 sec later" on a paper, then it will become a bomb) 2 - Manifestation of the Power of Names (If your name is "Leo", you may have the power of a lion) 3 - Metals Have Life and gravitational control (It doesn't mean your computer (metal) can sing and dance suddenly. Metals just become cells which can perform metabolic process) 4 - Plants become animals 5 - Manipulation of the concept of "direction" (so they are the expert of aviation tech) 6 - Ability to cycle between life and death (they can rebirth after death but it takes a lot of time) 7 - Unclear but people can live a very long time 8 - Heat have life (I don't really understand the detail but they can store data in the form of heat) 9 - Ability to control light and heat 10 - Unclear but they have the ability to heal The technology have passed to EDGE and GENESIS so the technology used in KnH is originated from them (esp 1,2,3,5 Gs) |
2011-11-17, 20:56 | Link #64 |
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1 - Tonbokiri? 2 - Concept of using names of historical figures 3 - all Automatons (except for P-01s, perhaps?), possibly Ulqiaga as well 4 - Brown Algae 5 - Concept behind all aerial vehicles 6 - no Horizon Characters 7 - Nurhaci 8 - no Horizon Characters 9 - no Horizon Characters 10 - no Horizon Characters Can anyone confirm or change what's in this list?
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2011-11-18, 09:21 | Link #66 | |
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also the spells (Muneshige used to accelerate in ep 5) 3 - all Automatons, Gods of War P-01s...I don';t know Ulqiaga...No, he is a bit complicated half-dragon is from 1st-G but they used the tech from 3rd and 5th Gs, 3rd-G for living metal and 5th for dragon (transformable aerial vehicles) i.e. human in 1st G use dragon (metal) in 5th G to merge together by 3rd G living metal tech 5 - Concept behind all aerial vehicles 7 - people who have a very long life? Kawakami said that "Ether" is first appeared in EDGE which he hasn't written it yet so we don't know much about it |
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2011-12-03, 04:02 | Link #67 |
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Heads up again.
According to 4chan, looks like Noriki looks weak is because his ability is the "three-hit knockout", with the first two hits as offering. This is the reason why most enemies are able to fend him off before the second strike.
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2011-12-11, 12:15 | Link #69 |
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So, Noriki basically "disabled" Galileo's power before owning him personally.
The thing is: when did he actually punched thrice Galileo's Ptolemaic Theory? Kisaragi was definitely stopping galileo's beam (as part of its ability to punch -anything-), and finally Mutsuki disabling Galileo's power before hitting him with Kisaragi (body). But the problem is: when did he punch with Yayoizuki against Galileo's Ptolemaic Theory? Meanwhile, does anyone know how long these punch affect the target? Since the Yayoizuki affecting Galileo previously was done hours prior the showdown, I suspect the effect might almost be longlasting, especially he could own that KPA Italia's captain who trashed him back when they arrested Horizon. Second question: does Yayoizuki affect the target defense completely, or the defense is only disabled against Noriki's punches?
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2) Only for Noriki because he's the one doing the offer. EDIT: I think the ending order is like 1,2,1,1, so he possibly did 3,3,2,3,2,1,2,1,1. Last edited by Kunagisa; 2011-12-11 at 12:37. Reason: Orders |
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I understand perfectly that Noriki doesn't need to land 3 punches in a row, considering he basically trashed the KPA Italia captain in the mean time between his 2 encounters with Galileo, so the order is in fact: 3 Yayoizuki (Body), 3 Yayoizuki (Theory), 2 Kisaragi (Theory), 1 Mutsuki (Theory), 2 Kisaragi (Body), 1 Mutsuki (Body).
More in details: 3 (body): episode 8, when Galileo showed up the first time => 3 (theory) : ??? => 2 (theory): when Noriki nullified Galileo's Beam => 1 (theory): Noriki demolished in close quarter Galileo's theory orb, => 2 (body): Noriki quickly punched him after he disabled Galileo's theory => 1 (body): after Ulqi stunned Galileo. As you can see, the only problem I have is the very first punch against the theory, not the actual order of the punches. Also, as your screenshot implies, Noriki charged Galileo with a "三", hence he didn't touch the theory prior this confrontation.
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2011-12-11, 12:52 | Link #72 | |
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2011-12-11, 12:55 | Link #73 |
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I believed he punched the theory right when Galileo made his first revolution. You will notice that Noriki made an impact on something with Yayoizuki right after Galileo moved. I believe what he punched was the trail of the revolution which would count as part of the theory.
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I was actually wondering if it was the case, since there wasn't really an impact, in comparison with Kisaragi and Mutsuki applied on them. But I guess it is either that, or the very first encounter where he hit Galileo and his spell at the same time.
Thinking about it, it seems it is the latter, which would explain why Galileo suddenly remembers of the first punch when Kisaragi connected against the Theory beam.
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2011-12-11, 17:26 | Link #75 | |
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Actually it's not as long as it seems, Noriki first punch on the KPA Italia's captain was only the night before. Then his other punch on Galileo was less than an hour ago- given that Horizon's execution would be two hours from there.
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2011-12-11, 17:29 | Link #76 |
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To me, such effecting lasting for hours is really long, considering how crippling it can be for long term battle. We don't know how far it can last on the target, but at least 10 minutes is quite fair, let alone hours.
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2011-12-11, 19:32 | Link #78 |
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Class 3 punch = 0% evasion = target cannot evade this attack
Class 2 punch = 0% restriction = this attack can affect anything, probably a conceptual attack in itself Class 1 punch = 0% HP = this attack will knock out the enemy no matter what (a combination of Class 3's cannot evade effect and Class 2's conceptual effect, in this case is probably attacking the target's consciousness directly)
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