2008-05-16, 15:45 | Link #224 | |
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In fact, when they "killed" Spoiler for Macross 7 episode 43:
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2008-05-16, 16:42 | Link #225 |
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Has anyone here seen Soukou no Strain? That was a show with the balls to kill of main characters... Macross Frontier must have his own style so it mustn't be a copypasta, but some drama is needed. I hope Luca will die and Ozma too, but later. If Ozma dies because of Alto's fault it will be very interesting to see how Alto will react and grow in answer to this event.
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2008-05-16, 17:07 | Link #226 | |
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In Macross Zero, both Sara and Shin (the main characters) died (or one could interpret them as being in a 'better world'). Adding to the list of fatalities is Roy Fokker of Macross, who was crushed to death in DYRL, while Hayao was vaporized by Macross' shield overloading or sniped off by Milia in DYRL. Or there is Macross PLUS, where Guld pretty much went blind while doing a Kamikaze run against the Ghost, and later exploded in flashing glory, not a very pretty picture. And if you want a serious death count, the original Macross had a death toll of 10 billion. I wonder if thats enough for you - Tak (No, Macross deaths aren't pretty...) |
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2008-05-16, 18:48 | Link #227 | |
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It was a bodyfest from the get go, and no one was really likeable or really all that interesting. Basically they had some stock Vandred footage, and decided to kill a few bitches before it wsa over. As for Frontier...I think Quarter will go down early, so that's the Bridge Bunnies, the Captain, and the Hairdresser. Cathy will make it though. |
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2008-05-17, 01:45 | Link #230 | ||||||
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Those were the only kind of deaths period. And it's not like anyone in the show actually gave a shit when someone died. Not the main character at least. The whole "brother complex" thing was very unattractive, and made her look like a cold-hearted bitch. If she didn't have a knack for picking up rivalries at the drop of a hat, no one would have noticed her.
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And the good guys hardly owned the universe in Seed. They spent most of the series running away and hiding, and when they finally made a move, it was in the middle of a big battle where only one ship was really out to get them. If it wasn't everyone just getting tired of Azarel's bullshit on the Dominion, Archangel at least would have been lost. It was a chaotic mess at the end, where order on all sides completely broke down into general melee, where the more powerful ships and mobile suits would tend to fair better. Quote:
Then again, I only said Quarter will go down because it's already shown all it can do, while the characters onboard are pretty much expendable. No one will weep unless they really like bridge bunnies, hair dressers, and maritime whalers. I swear, if the space whale idea pans out like I expect it to, "Thar she blows!" had better happen. Last edited by Wesley84; 2008-05-17 at 02:53. |
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2008-05-17, 03:12 | Link #232 | |
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Soukou no Strain was maybe like this, but it introduced its mood from the very first episode... in the end I really couldnīt take the whole emo Sara anymore. Anyway, I like to grow attached to the characters, because it makes it more enjoayable to see their relationships evolve. If they get killed off nilly-willy at the beginning of the anime, without having a defined relationship with the other characters, then their deaths are empty and meaningless. Killing of Klan is quite too soon, as her relationship with Michel hasnīt been explored yet. Ozma, IMO, also still has a love triangle to resolve with Cathy and Leon. I donīt rule out character deaths at all, but Iīd like to get to know them first and have their relationship arcs played out before they go. |
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No one has to die to make Frontier complete. Tension and dread I would say are important, but you don't have kill anyone to get that kind of reaction out of an audience. Actually doing so might generate apathy, and that would be a crying shame. |
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2008-05-17, 03:53 | Link #235 | ||
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I think drama, and death of named characters in particular, is one of the main means to develop plots and making the characters growing. Of course the presence of deaths doesn't mean the show is good automatically: those deaths must be used smartly together with many other elements. |
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My theory has been, if you work your ass off, fought countless battles, survived countless encounters, then only to die at the end (or becoming the only survivor)? Well, F*CK it, just kill yourself, makes it easier for everyone. That whole 'supreme sacrifice but I get nothin in return' isn't exactly my cup of tea. As for Gundam Seed, they killed off Natarle Badgiruel damn you, and she was HOT! AGHHHHH! Well, on a side note, I didn't exect Nicole to die, either. - Tak |
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2008-05-17, 09:47 | Link #239 | |
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probably because she was a tsundere (but never did get the chance to show off here dere side to her crush) She died honourably though. the only other character i liked was the cool doggy commander who lost an eye, with the GARlock cool attitude. But anyway, do you think this VF-27 is part of a secret fraction working within NUNS space? I have a funny feeling it's like some sort of group that has ties with big corporations doing shady things. I think they are related to the "research" fleet that was attacked, i think they are continuing to push out their agents, and trying to discover the VAJRA technology.
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2008-05-17, 12:01 | Link #240 |
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Ah! Why did that arrive to me just now? Of course, there would be factions! This would perfectly explain why we now have a New UN Government! Ooh, we might get an episode that explains how this came about and to explain Brera Sterne's existence.
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