2011-01-22, 13:24 | Link #162 | |
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It's not my intention to give her too much flak about that. As I said, it's all very normal. If anything, I'm annoyed at Kazehaya. He's the one with all the self-confidence and people skills. He's the one who should do something. I understand that Valentine was a serious blow. All in all, he recovered pretty gracefully. But how much grief would it have spared if he'd let her know he was interested before Valentine? |
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2011-01-22, 18:47 | Link #163 | |
Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!!
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I don't like how he confronted Sawako at the end, which I am guessing was triggered by Kento's actions around Sawako. Of course I don't know how he will act next episode, does he think that Sawako has rejected him? Does he think that Kento has something special with her? He was pretty bold when Ume tried to make him jealous with RyuXSawako plan. I hope he mans up!!!
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2011-01-22, 19:23 | Link #164 | |
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Assuming that Sawako had at least one vertebrae was a bit too much let alone the entire spine.
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2011-01-23, 01:15 | Link #165 | ||
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She over analyses things, in the same way that ppl with OCD freak about if the door has been locked. So any stray thought seems to snowball, and add in a huge dose of humility that probably comes closer to self-deprecation. So for her to do something which most people find difficult such as asking someone out, or confessing one's love is a bit much in my book. Also a big point is, she knows that she wants more from her relationship with Shouta, but she seems to think that she doesn't deserve it. What makes her more special then Ume? What makes her more special then anyone else? It would take a lot for her to impose her feelings on anyone, especially someone she cares about (remember the xmas party and her dad?)
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2011-01-24, 11:00 | Link #168 | |
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damn, i've watched season 1 like a movie marathon after i've completed it first and left out the concluding parts for months before i finished it.. now i'm suffering as i'm not used to waiting after each episode. wah, can't wait for next's!
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2011-01-25, 01:47 | Link #169 |
The Chaotic Dreamer
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The love is requited, but THEY don't know that. As far as Sawako knows, her love is unrequited (at the moment), and as far as Kazehaya knows (once again, only at the moment), his love is unrequited. Their feelings are mutual, but neither one of them knows that yet. THAT'S what I meant when I said what I did. It's like... the major component of the plot. They're not the only characters who experience it, either. (Kurumi love's for Kazahaya is the obvious one, then there's Ryuu's love for Chizu, but both of those are one-sided.) The name of the ED song by Chara of the first season was Kataomoi. Kataomoi literally translates to "Unrequited Love". If nobody noticed, they often played the song (or different versions of it), when scenes regarding the matter of one's feelings not being returned were occurring.
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2011-01-25, 02:44 | Link #170 | |
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2011-01-25, 04:45 | Link #172 |
Beautiful fighter.
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Sigh.
Is it just going to be this from you for this season? Like it's been said a number of times, and you've always seen it yourself, Sawako is not your everyday girl in highschool, so this 'man up' nonsense doesn't work with her at all, or Kazehaya for that matter. They both work differently then the highschool boy and girl that you have in your head.
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2011-01-25, 13:07 | Link #173 | |
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As "wprking differently" isn't much of an excuse as with different ages there's an expectation of behavior. Sawako needs to 'speed it up" a bit. Life normally doesn't wait for people like her to catch up. Her nadesico status is giving her plot shield.
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2011-01-25, 13:48 | Link #174 |
The Chaotic Dreamer
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Aren't you forgetting two very crucial things? A) Everyone is different and reacts to different situations in different ways, and B) this is an ANIME. Even if we DID pretend for a moment that everyone in the world acted according to ridiculous world you have set up in your head, the creator of KnT made the story the way it is for a reason. Certain plot devices are used and certain kinds of characteristics and personalities are developed purely for the sake of the genre/medium. I'm pretty sure that Sawako is meant to be that way for various, legitimate reasons.
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2011-01-25, 14:07 | Link #175 | |
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2011-01-25, 14:23 | Link #176 |
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^^ From a storytelling perspective, I think Sawako suddenly becoming a confident person would clash with her established personality and also the pacing of the series. Sawako is developing, it's just happening gradually.
IMO change doesn't come quickly, so generally speaking, if you want things or people to change, you have to be patient, especially for someone like Sawako who has had no social life for the vast majority of her life. Indeed, it's only in high school that she's learning and experiencing things like friendship and love for the first time. In a sense, she's a fish out of water, everything that's happened in this story is all a new experience for her so of course it'll be much harder for her to adjust and she can't be expected to just know what to do and what to say. The first time for anything is usually the most difficult time because people have no idea what they're supposed to do. I assume most users here aren't like Sawako so we have a better idea of what to do. Not to mention that people learn things from observing others. I believe that people need at least a little bit of guidance in their lives in order to survive. Sawako's peers refused to talk to Sawako, so she never got the chance to learn. Thankfully, Sawako's new-found friends are supportive and willing to wait for her to catch up. |
2011-01-25, 14:23 | Link #177 | |
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I agree that it's not going to be easy, especially for Sawako. I agree that such a thing is harder for her than for, say, Ayane. But when all's said and done, the problem is exactly like Orion's stated: one of them need to "man up". |
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2011-01-25, 14:59 | Link #178 | ||
The Chaotic Dreamer
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We ALL know they will eventually get to the point where they confess their feelings. The point that many others and I are trying to make is that we have to be patient. Sawako needs a lot of character development. It's paced a lot slower than what most people would prefer (because anime, in general, has flawed most people's concept of what makes good pacing), but it's realistic for someone of Sawako's nature -- and there are a lot of people in real life who would take the situation as slowly and delicately as she is, if not even more so. Regardless of what anyone can say about anything at this point, the fact of the matter is: like it or not, one way or another, viewers are going to have to wait. Deal with it. Quote:
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2011-01-25, 15:47 | Link #179 |
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I becoming more and more "used" to the OP and the EP of the series. It seems the makers of the anime are transitioning nicely into the EP in particular, which is nice to see.
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2011-01-25, 15:56 | Link #180 | ||
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