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FateAnomaly · 2011-02-20, 23:34

The triggers are overly important because of the game ending too fast. Most battles only last 3-4 rounds. If you get a poor hand after the mulligan, its basically game over.

roriconfan · 2011-02-21, 04:56

If you get successful criticals in a row the game can end in 2 rounds. They appear to be the fastest way to victory and makes all others look poor before them. I mean the best defense is offense, right?

So, 16 critical cards in your deck, plus as many of those Amaterasu ability to see the top card and place it at the bottom if you like.

Screw healing and blocking; if you can win in 2 rounds who cares about those?

Intercept is good and not a trigger. Hoard it.

Soul burn is good for all unsuccessful triggers to be offered there.

That ability to go back instead of the monster being overaped is also an easy way to yank a few extra attack without wasting a card on it. Hoard it as well.

This looks so easy to beat...

cohen · 2011-02-21, 08:32

How about field set up? That affects game play also. Or monster effects. The game is pretty well built, one luck sack concept doesn't really make the game bad, it just makes it in need of improvement.

Ravenblitz · 2011-02-28, 08:14

Nyantype Misaki <3

roriconfan · 2011-02-28, 13:13

Episode 8.

Spoiler for key events:

Anh_Minh · 2011-02-28, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Ravenblitz

Nyantype Misaki <3

Ah. I knew there was a reason I watched that show.

bayoab · 2011-02-28, 15:13

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Originally Posted by roriconfan

On the other hand I didn't get what his opponent's strategy was. I saw no synergy and just two web attacks based on damage. Did he even have one?

It seemed like his strategy was winning quickly by just putting the strongest attack of each level in his deck so they were guaranteed to go through or whittle down the hand. The lock down slowed the opponent down so he would have a speed advantage too. This episode was basically "monster effects matter more than raw power."

roriconfan · 2011-02-28, 15:39

^ Ok, that was it I guess. So the question now is what more is there for Aichi to show us in later episodes if this is supposed to be his winning strategy. He will enter a tournament where losing is not even an option.

U<3Anime · 2011-02-28, 15:46

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Ah. I knew there was a reason I watched that show.

Same here. Only skim through for Misaki. No, misaki? No watch!

Anh_Minh · 2011-02-28, 16:10

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Originally Posted by roriconfan

^ Ok, that was it I guess. So the question now is what more is there for Aichi to show us in later episodes if this is supposed to be his winning strategy. He will enter a tournament where losing is not even an option.

I don't call "hope to God I draw the right card (1 out of 50) at the right time" to be much of a strategy (even if we all know he damn well will). Not unless he palms said card and draws it out of his sleeve or something... Kai, at least, seems to have several paths he can take, depending on which level 3 he gets - and he's probably got enough to be pretty sure he'll be ok on that front.

Oh, well. It could be worse. It could be Saki. Can you imagine it, Saki, but with little boys instead of all that yuri?

roriconfan · 2011-02-28, 16:43

Saki is the lame moe version of Akagi. And all card game anime are the lame shounen versions of the first arc of Kaiji XD

And let's not forget Legend of Koizumi.

Hell, why am I still watching this? I should go back to reading my Ka...
...Ah Misaki <3

FateAnomaly · 2011-02-28, 23:09

Pretty much convinced that Aichi cheats at this point. Only 1 Buster blade and Alfred yet he is able to draw it the first time he uses it.

roriconfan · 2011-03-01, 04:24

^ Indeed, the oods of drawing all 3 needed cards in a game that lasts 4 rounds is just... almost like cheating.

WereborG · 2011-03-01, 09:56

yeah, just 1 blaster blade and he can draw him in all fight

Quarkboy · 2011-03-01, 10:20

Guess who bought a starter deck?

It looks like the Royal Paladin ones are sold out, too.

felix · 2011-03-01, 10:21

^ just how many were in stock?

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Originally Posted by roriconfan

^ Indeed, the oods of drawing all 3 needed cards in a game that lasts 4 rounds is just... almost like cheating.

Blaster blade and Kingstuff are the only unique ones. And technically he (probably) has others he could use.

bayoab · 2011-03-01, 10:30

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I don't call "hope to God I draw the right card (1 out of 50) at the right time" to be much of a strategy (even if we all know he damn well will).

There was a lot more strategy this time than just "Heart of the cards."

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Oh, well. It could be worse. It could be Saki. Can you imagine it, Saki, but with little boys instead of all that yuri?

As odd as this sounds, Saki is far less unrealistic than the heart of the cards.

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Originally Posted by FateAnomaly

Pretty much convinced that Aichi cheats at this point. Only 1 Buster blade and Alfred yet he is able to draw it the first time he uses it.

But he only drew 1 needed card. I believe the rest started in his opening hand (and you can mulligan).

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Originally Posted by roriconfan

^ Indeed, the oods of drawing all 3 needed cards in a game that lasts 4 rounds is just... almost like cheating.

There are only 2 needed cards and the odds of getting 1 of them in your opening hand is... exactly 5*1/49 = ~1/10. It's not that rare.

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It looks like the Royal Paladin ones are sold out, too.

Another victory for marketing?

roriconfan · 2011-03-01, 12:35

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Originally Posted by bayoab

There are only 2 needed cards and the odds of getting 1 of them in your opening hand is... exactly 5*1/49 = ~1/10. It's not that rare.

One is 10%. Two is 1%. Three is 0.1%.

Quarkboy · 2011-03-01, 12:56

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Originally Posted by bayoab

Another victory for marketing?

Well, I just happened to be heading to Akihabara (on business!), and there's a bushiroad shop actually RIGHT ON THE PLATFORM, which I stopped in, and they were sold out there.

Seihai · 2011-03-01, 14:20

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Originally Posted by Ravenblitz

Nyantype Misaki <3

I visit this thread for the first time and this image jumps right into my eyes. Moe... i-it's not like I c-c-consider watching this!

2011-02-21, 08:32	Link #263
cohen Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Age: 30	How about field set up? That affects game play also. Or monster effects. The game is pretty well built, one luck sack concept doesn't really make the game bad, it just makes it in need of improvement. __________________ My new Blogspot

2011-02-28, 08:14	Link #264
Ravenblitz \|･ω･`) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Getting there	Nyantype Misaki <3 __________________

2011-02-28, 13:13	Link #265
roriconfan Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki - Greece	Episode 8. Spoiler for key events: A nice one showing how indeed synergy is a good restriction in the game. At least for Royal Paladin clan; I don't know if other clans also have that. Aichi got to use his card from the previous time he won by ... losing and finally got to win. On the other hand I didn't get what his opponent's strategy was. I saw no synergy and just two web attacks based on damage. Did he even have one? Anyway, it was a good episode for showing how synergy (or the power of your friends) can help you win. On the other hand, Aichi WAS talking about that in earlier episodes as well; it's not like he found out about that right now. Remember that unicorn doing something similar? It was practically his grade 3 card that gave him the victory. His opponent also had grade 3s but... couldn't do shit. That web could only be used twice even by grade 2s so in a way he DIDN'T have a strategy at all. Kai used soul burn with that dragon of his, Misaki had a fast draw strategy, Kamui had a double attack ... This 4 eyes had nothing. So no, in the long run I fail to see why Aichi has improved. He lost by opponents who had a strategy and won against one who didn't. Big deal!

2011-03-01, 10:20	Link #275
Quarkboy Translator, Producer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Age: 44	Guess who bought a starter deck? It looks like the Royal Paladin ones are sold out, too. __________________ Read Light Novels in English at J-Novel Club! Translator, Producer, Japan Media Export Expert Founder and Owner of J-Novel Club Sam Pinansky

2011-02-20, 23:34	Link #261
FateAnomaly Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	The triggers are overly important because of the game ending too fast. Most battles only last 3-4 rounds. If you get a poor hand after the mulligan, its basically game over.

2011-02-21, 04:56	Link #262
roriconfan Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki - Greece	If you get successful criticals in a row the game can end in 2 rounds. They appear to be the fastest way to victory and makes all others look poor before them. I mean the best defense is offense, right? So, 16 critical cards in your deck, plus as many of those Amaterasu ability to see the top card and place it at the bottom if you like. Screw healing and blocking; if you can win in 2 rounds who cares about those? Intercept is good and not a trigger. Hoard it. Soul burn is good for all unsuccessful triggers to be offered there. That ability to go back instead of the monster being overaped is also an easy way to yank a few extra attack without wasting a card on it. Hoard it as well. This looks so easy to beat...

2011-02-28, 15:39	Link #268
roriconfan Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki - Greece	^ Ok, that was it I guess. So the question now is what more is there for Aichi to show us in later episodes if this is supposed to be his winning strategy. He will enter a tournament where losing is not even an option.

2011-02-28, 16:43	Link #271
roriconfan Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki - Greece	Saki is the lame moe version of Akagi. And all card game anime are the lame shounen versions of the first arc of Kaiji XD And let's not forget Legend of Koizumi. Hell, why am I still watching this? I should go back to reading my Ka... ...Ah Misaki <3

2011-02-28, 23:09	Link #272
FateAnomaly Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Pretty much convinced that Aichi cheats at this point. Only 1 Buster blade and Alfred yet he is able to draw it the first time he uses it.

2011-03-01, 04:24	Link #273
roriconfan Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki - Greece	^ Indeed, the oods of drawing all 3 needed cards in a game that lasts 4 rounds is just... almost like cheating.

2011-03-01, 09:56	Link #274
WereborG Junior Member Join Date: May 2009	yeah, just 1 blaster blade and he can draw him in all fight