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TurkeyPotPie · 2012-06-20, 19:37

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Originally Posted by Elo the Blue

Who are some relatively obscure JL members you guys would like to see if a movie was actually released?

For me, it would be Captain Marvel, Green Arrow, Blue Beetle and Hawkgirl.

How about the crappy JL from the mid-80s? I'm being half-serious here; the JL that had Vibe, Gypsy, Vixen, and so on? Make it a really low-budget affair like the Corman Fantastic Four movie.

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Green Lantern? Sigh....so many versions. They need to find one and get someone thats can play the role. They also need to figure out what role they'd want for the Green Lantern in the JL film.

John Stewart. Just please, not Guy Gardner.

Actually, the DC movie (or animated direct-to-video) that I'd like to see is Crisis on Infinite Earths. Imagine all those heroes from all those worlds. The undiluted DC multiverse before they fucked it all up with all the retcons and retreads. Would be hard to explain the old multiverse (certainly blew my twelve year old mind away), but that would be one hell of a ride.

aohige · 2012-06-20, 23:13

Supes, Bats, Flash, a cow girl with hoops, some martian pornstar, and bunch of other.... people.

I imagine that's pretty much the image most people have of JLA.

It is mine.

Anh_Minh · 2012-06-24, 16:15

... Pornstar?

Also, I easily forget Wonder Woman's lasso in favor or remembering her costume looks like a swimsuit.

solomon · 2012-06-26, 22:35

LOLOL PORN STAR.....

anyways, aohige is right. Outside of nerd circles, who is really up on who is in the JLA?

Avengers worked because of individual mainstream movies leading up and tying in to the main blockbuster. DC hasn't been that methodical or consistent with its movies.

Frankly Dark Knightish Batman aside, their movies haven't been as well recieved as the Marvel movies.

Hell Wonder Woman herself is friggin tough to cast. You just can't get (insert hot Hollywood starlet here) to play her, cause she's a freaking AMAZONIAN, she needs to be IMPOSING (as well as hot).

mangamuscle · 2012-06-26, 22:39

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Originally Posted by solomon

Hell Wonder Woman herself is friggin tough to cast. You just can't get (insert hot Hollywood starlet here) to play her, cause she's a freaking AMAZONIAN, she needs to be IMPOSING (as well as hot).

Unless hell freezes over you can bet your retirment money whoever plays wonder woman will be a stick which would make Xena look like the incredible hulk. If you want proof please look at the actress hollywood choose to play Chun "thunder thighs" Li -_-;

Destined_Fate · 2012-06-26, 22:56

This wont end well at all. They need a Tony Stark to hold the masses together for the movie. That guy really stole the spotlight in the Avengers Movie and so did the Hulk even if he was replaced.

Anh_Minh · 2012-06-27, 01:19

Good point. Crossover movie! They invite Tony Stark in the JLA. He wouldn't be the first hero to be in several teams at once.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-06-27, 01:50

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Originally Posted by solomon

Hell Wonder Woman herself is friggin tough to cast. You just can't get (insert hot Hollywood starlet here) to play her, cause she's a freaking AMAZONIAN, she needs to be IMPOSING (as well as hot).

To be honest, I think DC is better of casting some female sportswoman/fighter for the role. Someone you can believably see taking on five men by herself. I just don't see the possibility of current available traditional actress pool who could pull it off. There are plenty of muscular actors; not many muscular actresses. And you can't just put an actress in a training camp for a year. You need to find someone who can fight.

mangamuscle · 2012-06-27, 13:08

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And you can't just put an actress in a training camp for a year.

I do not know about a year, but if Robert de Niro can do it, why can't they get some athletic actress to pump it up? I mean, depending on who is writing she is supposed to be on the same league as Superman.

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You need to find someone who can fight.

Sadly enough, it is easier to make an actor (any actor) look like he is fighting (people do not notice the dozen of scene cuts in nowadays "fight scenes", only true fighters can do a continuos fight scene) than to get an atlete to act (That is why Arnold was perfect for Termintor, he did not need to act, just pose, later on he somewhat learned to act).

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-08-27, 03:41

I heard that WB is considering using Wachowskis (not "brothers" anymore) as director(s) of the upcoming JLA movie. Here's a piece of the news.

I'm somehow intrigued coz I love the first Matrix and Speed Racer is a lot of fun.
If they indeed chosen, the only problems then would be the script and the actors.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-08-27, 04:14

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

I heard that WB is considering using Wachowskis (not "brothers" anymore) as director(s) of the upcoming JLA movie. Here's a piece of the news.

I'm somehow intrigued coz I love the first Matrix and Speed Racer is a lot of fun.
If they indeed chosen, the only problems then would be the script and the actors.

"Only" problems?

I guess that's fair. The trio of Script/actor/director needs to align.

Still, Avengers was hard enough to make despite all the preparation Marvel made for years. JL will make Avengers filming seem like a cakewalk.

So have we confirmed that both Superman and Batman would be played by brand new actors? That's going to be difficult to juggle. They might be better off imitating the Avengers in the comics and had one of the members being the accidental villain. Like, no bad guys, just the future team members getting to know each other after a few fights built on misunderstandings.

Because I don't know how they could even fit one named villain in this film.

Destined_Fate · 2012-08-27, 06:46

They already did that in the JL reboot when the heroes met up and tried to beat each other up. They than teamed up after they resolved their differences and had to face real threats.
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DC should just stick to their Animation stuff, it's the only thing they still have over Marvel.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-08-27, 06:53

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

"Only" problems?

I guess that's fair. The trio of Script/actor/director needs to align.

Still, Avengers was hard enough to make despite all the preparation Marvel made for years. JL will make Avengers filming seem like a cakewalk.

So have we confirmed that both Superman and Batman would be played by brand new actors? That's going to be difficult to juggle. They might be better off imitating the Avengers in the comics and had one of the members being the accidental villain. Like, no bad guys, just the future team members getting to know each other after a few fights built on misunderstandings.

Because I don't know how they could even fit one named villain in this film.

Vallen, I wasn’t talking about technical shooting and filming of JLA. I was talking about primary elements outside of technical ones. Hence script, director(s) and actors.

(I'm not saying that there's no technical issues at all)

sunset · 2012-08-27, 16:25

The problem with a JL movie is its biggest franchise: Batman.

Batman is awesome.
Not only is Batman awesome but he needs to be shown being awesome at all times.

But Batman can´t look awesome when Superman is one-punch pulverizing giant robots, Green Lantern is engaging alien space destroyers, Wonder Woman is wrestling down hydras or Flash is evacuating a whole US city - by searching and then individually carrying every single one of its 5.6 million citizens out of the blast range of a nuclear device just 1.64 seconds before it goes off -.
As cool as his bat-toys are, none of them comes close to the magnificence of, say, the sight of a kryptonian battle armour in action, a sword that can carve the electrons off an atom or pretty much any of a green lantern´s light constructs.
His fighting skills are impressive... until you see the gurrrrrl of the team juggling three city buses.
It´d be like the Coulson/Black Widow scenne in the Ironman 2 movie where he struggles to beat one guy... while she´s taking out a dozen.
Only worse. ^^

So, they´ll have to dumb down the demigods instead to make him look awesome.
It´s why in the comics Superman suddenly drops 70 IQ points and turns into a stuttering kansas rodeo clown whenever Batman walks into the room, why Flash forgets his super-CSI forensic expertise and has to deferr to the playboy´s opinion, or air force pilot slash intergalactic cop Green lantern and amazon-princess-raised-and-trained--by-3,000 years-old-immortal-warriors need to be told what to do.

The problem is, of course, that not many people will wanna pay USD$35 in tickets, 3d glasses and popcorn to go see a bunch of fools in spandex tripping around each other.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-08-27, 17:13

Actually, I doubt Batman would be a problem.

See, the difference between him and the rest of the JL, is that he is used to overwhelming odds. Superman never had to defeated a stronger enemy. The one time he tried, he died. Batman doesn't need superpowers. He is essentially a crazy villain who works for the good guys. He is Lex Luthor with combat abilities and skill to win.

As I say, in the comic canon Superman consider Batman the greatest threat to Earth if he ever turn evil. And that's saying something coming from Superman.

Ithekro · 2012-08-27, 19:04

That is probably why the older Justice League cartoon series (1990s - 2000s) worked. They started with Batman, went forward to Superman, and then the Justice League. Batman was not invulnerable. When stuff got to world destroying levels, Batman would leave the picture, or find a clever way to defeat the enemy while the heavy hitters hit stuff. In a cartoon, you don't have to focus on Batman all the time, you can leave him out while the other do things. (Of course that was also the series that had Superman underpowered by his own fear of killing people and hold back most of the time. "World of Cardboard")

In a motion picture though, you need to give all the mains screen time, motive, and something cool to do. Batman, aside from being that universes' greatest detective (aside from Holmes, but he's dead), is also Mister Got Bucks. Bruce Wayne can finance the Justice League when needed (the Watchtower for instance). He has the resources to get stuff to happen where strength can't. His early hooks to get him involved with the others is usually something major enemy influtrates Wayne Enterprises building and steals stuff, or uses Wayne Technology for some major alien invasion or something. That or some odd dealings between Wayne Enterprises and Lex Corp. That gets Bruce Wayne involved or the Batman investigating his own property when the likes of Superman comes in to deal with something Earth shattering. If it is truely major, as in massive alien invasion kind of stuff, you will need more than just Superman to deal with it. That is were the others start to come in, because Superman cannot be everyplace at once, and if it takes him a minute to deal with something here, that's a minute he can't be someplace else. Enter Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Flash, etc....

Batman would be the one investigating where or how the aliens got to Earth, or how to drive them off while the others simply try too keep the damage to the Humans at minimum. He could eventually figure something out that turns the tide and allows the rest of the Justice League to finish driving the enemy away.

At least that is more or less how the older Justice League cartoon started.

And yes, all the Justice League fears Batman. He knows all their secrets and weaknesses. Sometimes without them even knowing he knows until he saids something about it (like telling someone to his masked face who he is, where he works, and what his favorite toy was as a child....because depending on the writer, Batman is crazy prepared).

Batman is also the only one Superman will trust to keep him in check, allowing him to keep a sample of Kryponite, just in case.

GDB · 2012-08-27, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

And yes, all the Justice League fears Batman. He knows all their secrets and weaknesses. Sometimes without them even knowing he knows until he saids something about it (like telling someone to his masked face who he is, where he works, and what his favorite toy was as a child....because depending on the writer, Batman is crazy prepared).

Gotta love it.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-08-27, 19:38

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Batman is also the only one Superman will trust to keep him in check, allowing him to keep a sample of Kryponite, just in case.

Knowing Batman, he probably didn't care if Superman allowed him to keep some Kryptonite or not. Because chances are he already got some. Sure, he appreciate the gesture, but Batman rarely ask for permission for anything.

Batman's attitude had always been "Be prepared to fight everyone you meet".

In that sense, the Darkknight Rises movie showed that part of Batman. He hunts down all those dangerous toys that are too powerful for people to handle... And he then keeps them for himself.

Batman is the type of guy who would keep The One Ring in his basement, just in case he needs it one day. Yes, he is a bit of a hypocrite, but he doesn't care about it.

Ithekro · 2012-08-27, 19:43

It started out that way. With Batman already having some Kryptonite. It was later that Superman trusted him enough to hand Batman his sample back, as insurance, should Superman every go rogue. It is a trust thing. Who would you want to have something that can kill you, just in case?

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-08-27, 19:49

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

It started out that way. With Batman already having some Kryptonite. It was later that Superman trusted him enough to hand Batman his sample back, as insurance, should Superman every go rogue. It is a trust thing. Who would you want to have something that can kill you, just in case?

As I say, all it proved was that Superman trusted him.

That doesn't change the fact that Batman would have gotten replacement Kryptonite on his own soon enough if needed. Let's face it, it isn't as rare in the DC universe as it should have been.

Because Batman wasn't born with powers, he continue to accumulate new sources of advantage wherever he can. And to keep that advantage, he doesn't tell other people about them. This is why he knows everything about the other JL members... But in return the other members don't know Batman well at all. All they could do is trust him, because he keeps secrets more than others.

2012-06-20, 23:13	Link #62
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	Supes, Bats, Flash, a cow girl with hoops, some martian pornstar, and bunch of other.... people. I imagine that's pretty much the image most people have of JLA. It is mine. __________________

2012-08-27, 03:41	Link #70
Obelisk ze Tormentor Black Steel Knight Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indonesia	I heard that WB is considering using Wachowskis (not "brothers" anymore) as director(s) of the upcoming JLA movie. Here's a piece of the news. I'm somehow intrigued coz I love the first Matrix and Speed Racer is a lot of fun. If they indeed chosen, the only problems then would be the script and the actors. __________________

2012-08-27, 17:13	Link #75
Vallen Chaos Valiant Logician and Romantic Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Within my mind Age: 43	Actually, I doubt Batman would be a problem. See, the difference between him and the rest of the JL, is that he is used to overwhelming odds. Superman never had to defeated a stronger enemy. The one time he tried, he died. Batman doesn't need superpowers. He is essentially a crazy villain who works for the good guys. He is Lex Luthor with combat abilities and skill to win. As I say, in the comic canon Superman consider Batman the greatest threat to Earth if he ever turn evil. And that's saying something coming from Superman. __________________

2012-08-27, 19:04	Link #76
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	That is probably why the older Justice League cartoon series (1990s - 2000s) worked. They started with Batman, went forward to Superman, and then the Justice League. Batman was not invulnerable. When stuff got to world destroying levels, Batman would leave the picture, or find a clever way to defeat the enemy while the heavy hitters hit stuff. In a cartoon, you don't have to focus on Batman all the time, you can leave him out while the other do things. (Of course that was also the series that had Superman underpowered by his own fear of killing people and hold back most of the time. "World of Cardboard") In a motion picture though, you need to give all the mains screen time, motive, and something cool to do. Batman, aside from being that universes' greatest detective (aside from Holmes, but he's dead), is also Mister Got Bucks. Bruce Wayne can finance the Justice League when needed (the Watchtower for instance). He has the resources to get stuff to happen where strength can't. His early hooks to get him involved with the others is usually something major enemy influtrates Wayne Enterprises building and steals stuff, or uses Wayne Technology for some major alien invasion or something. That or some odd dealings between Wayne Enterprises and Lex Corp. That gets Bruce Wayne involved or the Batman investigating his own property when the likes of Superman comes in to deal with something Earth shattering. If it is truely major, as in massive alien invasion kind of stuff, you will need more than just Superman to deal with it. That is were the others start to come in, because Superman cannot be everyplace at once, and if it takes him a minute to deal with something here, that's a minute he can't be someplace else. Enter Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Flash, etc.... Batman would be the one investigating where or how the aliens got to Earth, or how to drive them off while the others simply try too keep the damage to the Humans at minimum. He could eventually figure something out that turns the tide and allows the rest of the Justice League to finish driving the enemy away. At least that is more or less how the older Justice League cartoon started. And yes, all the Justice League fears Batman. He knows all their secrets and weaknesses. Sometimes without them even knowing he knows until he saids something about it (like telling someone to his masked face who he is, where he works, and what his favorite toy was as a child....because depending on the writer, Batman is crazy prepared). Batman is also the only one Superman will trust to keep him in check, allowing him to keep a sample of Kryponite, just in case. __________________

2012-08-27, 19:43	Link #79
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	It started out that way. With Batman already having some Kryptonite. It was later that Superman trusted him enough to hand Batman his sample back, as insurance, should Superman every go rogue. It is a trust thing. Who would you want to have something that can kill you, just in case? __________________

2012-06-24, 16:15	Link #63
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	... Pornstar? Also, I easily forget Wonder Woman's lasso in favor or remembering her costume looks like a swimsuit.

2012-06-26, 22:35	Link #64
solomon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Suburban DC	LOLOL PORN STAR..... anyways, aohige is right. Outside of nerd circles, who is really up on who is in the JLA? Avengers worked because of individual mainstream movies leading up and tying in to the main blockbuster. DC hasn't been that methodical or consistent with its movies. Frankly Dark Knightish Batman aside, their movies haven't been as well recieved as the Marvel movies. Hell Wonder Woman herself is friggin tough to cast. You just can't get (insert hot Hollywood starlet here) to play her, cause she's a freaking AMAZONIAN, she needs to be IMPOSING (as well as hot).

2012-06-26, 22:56	Link #66
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	This wont end well at all. They need a Tony Stark to hold the masses together for the movie. That guy really stole the spotlight in the Avengers Movie and so did the Hulk even if he was replaced.

2012-06-27, 01:19	Link #67
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	Good point. Crossover movie! They invite Tony Stark in the JLA. He wouldn't be the first hero to be in several teams at once.

2012-08-27, 06:46	Link #72
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	They already did that in the JL reboot when the heroes met up and tried to beat each other up. They than teamed up after they resolved their differences and had to face real threats. - DC should just stick to their Animation stuff, it's the only thing they still have over Marvel.

2012-08-27, 16:25	Link #74
sunset Twilight Impersonator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: a zoo	The problem with a JL movie is its biggest franchise: Batman. Batman is awesome. Not only is Batman awesome but he needs to be shown being awesome at all times. But Batman can´t look awesome when Superman is one-punch pulverizing giant robots, Green Lantern is engaging alien space destroyers, Wonder Woman is wrestling down hydras or Flash is evacuating a whole US city - by searching and then individually carrying every single one of its 5.6 million citizens out of the blast range of a nuclear device just 1.64 seconds before it goes off -. As cool as his bat-toys are, none of them comes close to the magnificence of, say, the sight of a kryptonian battle armour in action, a sword that can carve the electrons off an atom or pretty much any of a green lantern´s light constructs. His fighting skills are impressive... until you see the gurrrrrl of the team juggling three city buses. It´d be like the Coulson/Black Widow scenne in the Ironman 2 movie where he struggles to beat one guy... while she´s taking out a dozen. Only worse. ^^ So, they´ll have to dumb down the demigods instead to make him look awesome. It´s why in the comics Superman suddenly drops 70 IQ points and turns into a stuttering kansas rodeo clown whenever Batman walks into the room, why Flash forgets his super-CSI forensic expertise and has to deferr to the playboy´s opinion, or air force pilot slash intergalactic cop Green lantern and amazon-princess-raised-and-trained--by-3,000 years-old-immortal-warriors need to be told what to do. The problem is, of course, that not many people will wanna pay USD$35 in tickets, 3d glasses and popcorn to go see a bunch of fools in spandex tripping around each other.