ACTA : Why it should not pass

[Ledgem]

The website for ThePirateBay isn't under any new attacks, it's just that the law is going through with its punishment for the founders. Even if these websites go under, fan subbing existed before them, and before BitTorrent. People will just have to get used to good ol' IRC again Torrents and the like really eroded the IRC fansub community; while IRC isn't as user-friendly, the community feel was sort of nice. At least, it was sort of nice as a fansubber, to have people express their appreciation directly (as opposed to seeing a bunch of lifeless numbers indicating how many people downloaded your work via torrent).

[Vexx]

I haven't had to torrent in.... a year or more? So, I'd say not. Variations on DDL (obscure websites, irc) - it just requires more hunting like it used to before torrents.

[TigerII]

Originally Posted by Vexx

I haven't had to torrent in.... a year or more? So, I'd say not. Variations on DDL (obscure websites, irc) - it just requires more hunting like it used to before torrents.

Deep net will probably last much longer, it just isn't safe for your computer's health to dwell in the deep.

[Dhomochevsky]

I've been using a virtual machine windows running on a linux box for all my downloads for some time now.
The main reason is it's low power consumption and noise level when doing over night downloads. But it is also a good way to fearlessly go and download to your hearts content from shady sources. If you get something nasty, just delete the VM-image and use one from yesterday.

[Endless Soul]

Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky

Spoiler for tidiness:

Here we have a nice example of the negative impact of IP legislation:
sankakucomplex: miku-youtube-videos-deleted-en-masse

My personal speculation is, that this is some western internet community trying to make a point. Somthing like SA-boards would be a primal suspect.
But if you got legislation already in place that enables random internet trolls to wreck major havoc on our culture without any fear of repercussion and the IP-lobby is still pushing for even more extreme measures, you know something is really wrong.
And keep in mind that the only reason Youtube is actually getting away with only doing that much, is because it's backed by Google's massive stash of money.

Interesting. Well, you can still see the Project DIVA Live concert (It's 32 videos long). Probably because it's posted by Project DIVA, therefore "legal."

Poor Miku, how did you get dragged into this mess?

Endless "Not a random internet troll" Soul

[AnimeFan188]

The responsible and the insane:

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2508

[HasuMasu]

That's a great way of putting it, must share.

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by Endless Soul

Interesting. Well, you can still see the Project DIVA Live concert (It's 32 videos long). Probably because it's posted by Project DIVA, therefore "legal."

Poor Miku, how did you get dragged into this mess?

Endless "Not a random internet troll" Soul

Apparently even many of the youtubes of Toyota's Miku campaign got zapped. I'd call it pretty embarrassing for youtube's "we can't be bothered to review takedown requests to watch for trolls and we automated it all" process.

[sa547]

Just this morning, sis asked about one of the torrent sites being down, and I checked to find out that it indeed closed shop.

Damn. Looks like there's one left that's not gonna go down softly into the night.

[HasuMasu]

Torrent sites are going down? I thought it couldn't happen...

[Vexx]

Self-protection... they've now been able to create an atmosphere of uncertainty. Even if *most* of your torrent traffic is legal, instead of just DMCA patrol and civil fines, you may be looking at arrests, seizure of assets, and other life-ruining before any trial happens. This paralysis and fear is exactly the kind of suppression wanted, even though it shuts down legitimate activities. Shoot everyone in the bank, one of them might be a robber

[SaintessHeart]

Originally Posted by Vexx

Self-protection... they've now been able to create an atmosphere of uncertainty. Even if *most* of your torrent traffic is legal, instead of just DMCA patrol and civil fines, you may be looking at arrests, seizure of assets, and other life-ruining before any trial happens. This paralysis and fear is exactly the kind of suppression wanted, even though it shuts down legitimate activities. Shoot everyone in the bank, one of them might be a robber

Not everyone in the bank is an ordinary civilian. End up in the wrong bank with an ex-Spetsnaz operator opening a bank account for his grandchild, and he opens up a hole in you with his bare hands.

[Reckoner]

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/B...ows-74358.html

Well it has begun. No matter what some of you say about direct download and the like, it will become a lot harder.

People are rightfully scared.

[Ledgem]

Originally Posted by Reckoner

Well it has begun. No matter what some of you say about direct download and the like, it will become a lot harder.

It may become harder in the immediate future, but people will find ways to get around it. The technologies adapt.

As an interesting example, I was searching for a series torrent and found it on Google. The problem was that the torrent site was unreachable. I'm unfamiliar with the site, so I can't say whether it was taken down forcibly, intentionally, or just suffering from a temporary technical error, but it didn't matter. Utilizing Google's cache results, I was able to access the magnet link. No download required, it's a tracker-less torrent, and the number of peers - while not huge - shows that it's alive and healthy. That's about as decentralized as you can get.

The problem, of course, is that methods that are too obscure will result in people being unable or unwilling to use them. If the media companies can offer their products at what most deem to be a good price, then both factors combined will successfully kill off most of the illegal activity. If they simply want to "use the stick and not offer any carrot" then it won't work. As difficult as they may make it, "free" is a very alluring thing.

[TigerII]

Originally Posted by Reckoner

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/B...ows-74358.html

Well it has begun. No matter what some of you say about direct download and the like, it will become a lot harder.

People are rightfully scared.

We all knew it would come to this. There never was a chance. Politicians only care about money. Like everything else in the world, the internet is to be dominated and controlled.

[Demongod86]

Originally Posted by TigerII

We all knew it would come to this. There never was a chance. Politicians only care about money. Like everything else in the world, the internet is to be dominated and controlled.

Let them try. We are anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forgive. We will find them.

[TigerII]

Originally Posted by Demongod86

Let them try. We are anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forgive. We will find them.

Have not stopped them so far...

[-Sho-]

Remember European's manifestation is 02/11 !

[Yu Ominae]

Read up on other signatories and they include Singapore, South Korea and Morocco.

Least you can peacefully demonstrate on spots dedicated to them in downtown Singapore.

[AnimeFan188]

"When I was 9 years old I got my first computer, an Amiga 500. It was the best
computer ever built, with great graphics, amazing sound and seven times faster
than the Commodore 64. One of my friends said that the Amiga was useless since
you needed to boot it from floppies. On the C64 you could program without even a
cassette.

Of course the C64 died while the Amiga flourished. The Amiga later died when even
better technology came along. We all know how evolution works, except one
industry that refuses to evolve: the entertainment industry.

Instead of looking at evolution as something inevitable, the industry has made it
their business to refuse and/or sue change, by any necessary means."

See:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/02/peter-sunde/