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2013-02-06, 02:04 | Link #1262 | |
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And no, it's not a standard good vs evil where humans are right to, pardon the pun, demonize their opponents. You'd think the first episode would be enough to figure that out. |
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2013-02-06, 02:34 | Link #1263 | |
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I never implied as such.
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2013-02-06, 02:39 | Link #1264 |
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What material? The demon queen was pretty clear that the difference between demons and humans wasn't huge right at the start. And what instance of demons acting "like demons because it's convenient" did you see that couldn't be done by some humans?
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2013-02-06, 02:50 | Link #1265 | |
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The Demon queen possesses all this knowledge on how to build a better economy that would bring prosperity to all of her kin, but decides she doesn't want to share it with her kin because she for some reason grew attached to humans (????). And that the demons are hampered by internal strife, but only just enough, so that they are neither losing or winning the war against the humans. The first episode, at least to me, was the Demon Queen pitching a sort of compromise between their two people since in her eyes the end of the war would bring devastation to either side regardless if they won. YET, if she has all this knowledge, there is no need for compromise. So she forms a relation with the hero to seek a solution to the problem on both sides, while hoping to bridge the gap between humans and demons. Except the demons are basically just like humans, so the gap is actually pretty artificial. There is no bridging of two sides from opposite spectrum here in reality. This working together storyline has no meat, it has nothing. --> What I mean by demons acting like demons when it is convenient is that the basic setup of the story is predicated on the notion of two opposing sides coming from different spectrum and there needs to be a sort of compromise between them. Demons are setup as this opposing side because well of course demons and humans can't get along! But if they are in reality not any different, then this whole storyline just falls apart. That's why I think this setting is flawed.
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2013-02-06, 02:51 | Link #1266 | |
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This talk about humans and demons reminds me of how the British sung about the Native American Indians as "savages" in the Disney film Pocahontas. The problem is, these "savages" turn out to be more human than the true demons who pillage the land and defile the women of the New World.
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Also, I have yet to see humans who can control giant squids to attack entire navies. It would be very useful in conquest.
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2013-02-06, 02:58 | Link #1267 | |||
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If in reality there is no "gap" to bridge, then why pitch the story as such? It falls completely flat on its face. Quote:
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2013-02-06, 03:09 | Link #1269 | |
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2013-02-06, 05:42 | Link #1271 | |||
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They're demons as a wink to Dragon Quest and other RPGs, because they're foreign (alien, even), and because the obvious, if ultimately superficial differences make the sudden unification against a common foe more believable. Quote:
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2013-02-06, 06:18 | Link #1272 | |
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2013-02-06, 06:53 | Link #1273 | |
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Your post embodies the point that I want to get across to Marcus H. With that, allow me to quote you. Thanks again. Oh, and you’re not the only anime-only watcher who felt that way.
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2013-02-06, 07:35 | Link #1275 | |
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This series probably owes more to D&D gaming and less to Japanese myth, but the idea of a cute "antagonist" is all over the medium.
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2013-02-06, 10:37 | Link #1277 | |
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2013-02-06, 11:00 | Link #1278 | |
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It sounds to me that you are simply less interested in macro economics than the other two themes. The show being boring to you because it's about boring stuff. But if that's not the case, and you are into economics and social development, what would be a better way to execute the exposition?
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2013-02-06, 11:20 | Link #1279 |
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As an anime watcher and someone who read Kotowaru AND watched Spice & Wolf, I have been more than willing to give the animated series a chance to stand on its own.
I like it, but I don't love it. Learn the difference. Liking it means that I would take the episodes as they are released. Loving it would mean that I am eager for the next episode like I do for JoJo. So here it is, I like Maoyuu, I don't love it. I enjoy the music, I enjoy the opening and the ending, I love the work of the seiyuu cast, especially Koshimizu and Sawashiro, it's just unfortunate that Fukuyama gets not much chance to work his magic since Yuusha is out of focus atm (one of the roots of the problem). I applaud the work of the character designers who really did their best to convey a true medieval feel through costume and architecture design. However, as an adaptation, it failed and I think that the director is at fault. Why? Because I feel like he is going about the adaptation the wrong way. Maoyuu have been compared many times to Spice & Wolf, they even got the same seiyuu for the titular characters in both Drama CD and anime, you'd think that with the same director it would be a sweeping success, right? No. Because, Maoyuu IS Maoyuu, NOT Spice & Wolf S3. And it appears that the director have approached the adaptation with the "It'll be like Spice & Wolf" mindset. Much of the Spice & Wolf's charm lies in its dynamic between Lawrence and Horo. But in Maoyuu, since Yuusha is out doing his hero business, and because of the apparent lack of will to animate aforementioned business (not good with action? Too little episodes to work with? We will never know), he have gone out of focus since the director would rather focus on one of the elements that made the success of Spice & Wolf, the economics. And it's at the expense of Yuusha. And Maoyuu became something more like just Maou. As it stands now at episode 4. And fuck no, I am not dropping it. I like it. But right now, it is a 13 or 14/20 (french gradig system) for me.
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2013-02-06, 13:22 | Link #1280 | |||
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And YES, the union between the Demon Queen and the Hero is meant as a way to bridge the gap between the two "foreign" sides. You're denying the very premise of the first episode. I am saying if they really were no different, there is hardly a gap to bridge. It makes the setting feel highly contrived and pointless.
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