2013-09-03, 17:16 | Link #562 |
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i keep thinking both Russia, US and Syria miss opportunity here. They could have just blame the chemical attack on the Islamist extremist, broker a peace deal between Assad and the moderate faction of the rebels. It would be a win for everybody but the extremist.
Assad stays in power (diminish) but still in power US doesn't have to get involve Russia don't have to worry about Islamic Extremist on their front door. the moderate get some reform and a chance to get the country back to normal Every could then gang up on the Islamic Extremist.
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2013-09-03, 17:50 | Link #563 |
Me, An Intellectual
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I don't think the line between the moderates and the extremists is distinct enough for that, though. And I doubt the moderates would honestly want to make any deals with the regime at this point. I imagine a lot of them have already lost family members or friends because of the regime so there's definitely going to be splintering especially when the higher ups in FSA clearly don't have as much control over their members as they need to. This article somewhat illustrates this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23190533
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2013-09-04, 17:39 | Link #564 |
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Kerry: Arab countries offered to pay for invasion:
"Secretary of State John Kerry said at Wednesday’s hearing that Arab counties have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating President Bashar al-Assad if the United States took the lead militarily. “With respect to Arab countries offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.” Asked by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) about how much those countries would contribute, Kerry said they have offered to pay for all of a full invasion." See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...e-2467ba30e5e3 |
2013-09-04, 18:32 | Link #566 |
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Oh, almost forgot this fact: The U.S Army used to put fire and toxic in front of VC's tunnels in Cu Chi. Mind you, not only resistance were in there, but also refugees. And the death toll could take to a whole village!
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2013-09-04, 19:03 | Link #569 | |
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Those times are the ones were a military can no longer deturming who the enemy is and just attacks know locations without stopping to ask "are you the enemy?" In the days were "the enemy" doesn't wear a military uniform, made it difficult to say who was a VC and who was a refugee, and when the shooting started, there wasn't time anymore to ask. The rules of engagement were designed for conventional warfare, not for what happened in the jungles, canals, and rice patties of Vietnam. The US military learned from that a little and use what they learned in Iraq and Afganistan. Fighting the NVA was only slightly easier when they were in uniform. Granada is about the last place to be thankful for the US military invading.
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2013-09-04, 19:15 | Link #570 | |
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My guess is that their funding would be overlooked by people who would be focusing on America's actions. That would focus negative sentiment on America instead of the other Arab countries. Just what we needed, right? Maybe the government figures that our reputation in the Muslim world is so poor that we have nothing to lose. I wish we'd sit this one out, but it looks like the government is revving to go. Ridiculous.
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2013-09-04, 19:16 | Link #571 | |
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Are we fucking mercenaries now? Hold on to your hats folks. I'm calling it now. This is going to be one weird ass century.
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2013-09-04, 20:23 | Link #572 | |
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2013-09-04, 21:33 | Link #574 |
Lumine Passio
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I'm not that kind of "The End justife the Means", or Vice Versa. Quote Lenin: "Every events is just a part of a chain" - the way you do it will lead to the fruit that you received.
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2013-09-05, 09:00 | Link #578 | |
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Building a bridge or hospital isn't going to mollify those who lost kins to your war. Wait, am I agreeing with sumeragi? o_O
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2013-09-05, 09:37 | Link #580 | |
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But time has a way of mollifying anger itself, so cutting off support from the counterinsurgency and it will eventually die on it's own, especially if you're clearly more capable of producing better governance than the insurgency. But that's only if you're in it for the long haul and don't keep screwing up along the way. And if you're doing it right, then those who have lost kin to your war won't be as much compared to those that prefer you over those that have lost kin to your war. But still, I just don't think going out Genghis Khan should really be an option in the 21st century any more.
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