GATE - Episode 9 Discussion / Poll

[bhl88]

Originally Posted by ~Yami~

the defense minister is actually a manga reader.. no wonder they use FSN reference for the military operation

USA is so cocky and cunning.. sigh..

The first half of this episode is pretty fun... Risa is more normal than what I think before
and Rory tsundere mode is pretty cute.. especially when she found that goth-loli dress
yes it is pretty fun.. and too bad for princess that they didn't manage to find doujinshi in library
BL virus is too dangerous that it started to corrupt the empire

looks like first romance thing would not be between main character but Bozes and a soldier... well I kinda like that Tomita dude so it is okay for me

the second half left a little sour taste as we know for sure that Rory's advance toward Itami would be blocked for sure by that American special agents
I just hope Rory didn't kill any of them as it would bring another dispute in the future
I wonder how they will get away though.. as they just lost their support from the government

last thing is... at first I thought it is Risa that marry Itami without love.. but it turns out that Itami is the one that marry Risa without love and they just freshly divorced
Special Force stuff is the one to be blamed over breaking this family... well, seems like they would find a hard time to build a new relation based on love this time

another out of topic comment... Rory looks very well-endowed in 12-years old body... her 20-years old mode must be gorgeous and delicious

Sadly she stopped aging...

[thundrakkon]

It was a fun episode, mixed with LOL politics. The only running gag that I thought was too overused with Pinya continually saying that she didn't realize they had thing like that in her world, and her knight kept saying it's not her world.

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Actually, I think Rory is fine to kill the US Special Forces. Officially, they are not supposed to be there in Japan. If they are killed by Rory, it would be as if the incident did not happen at all on record.

As for getting away, it was stated that Itami is a specialist when it comes to running away.

I'm sure with what they currently have on hand, it is quite a powerful fighting force in itself, especially when the US Special Forces are not supposed to kill the targets, but the targets definitely can kill the Special Forces without repercussions.

I guess the thing that surprised me the most this episode was that it was the USA that attacked first. I would have expected another country to make the first move, as with most shows, but this is entertaining in itself to surprise me like this. In reality, it would have probably went more diplomatic than throwing in a Special Force team for the LOL effect, but hey, if that is how the story rolls with it, then it's fair game.

It was 2 special forces team against one another, so Japan would have had the home-field advantage. I didn't really understand the part where they said that the gear was something the US Special Forces would have gotten at Akibahara. Why was that relevant?

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

Yay, for more underhanded politics from the USA! Also, of course the American special forces are nothing compared to the Japanese special forces. They're nothing but amateurs in comparison of course.

Yeah, the Americans don't even have night vision equipment. What did they come for anyway?

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

Yay, for more underhanded politics from the USA! Also, of course the American special forces are nothing compared to the Japanese special forces. They're nothing but amateurs in comparison of course.

Yeah it's stupid (not because "oh the US should have been better, raeg" but because any first-world country with a proper military (or self-defense force, whatever) is going to have special forces that are relatively on par with each other), but I choose to ignore it due to dramatic structure. The foreign intruders here are the "bad guys" and the JSDF special forces are the "good guys" according to the story, so the "bad guys" will always be outclassed by the "good guys" in this sort of situation, even if they logically shouldn't be.

The second half was okay, though I the Rory scene was a little blah for me. Not my cup of tea.

There is a lot of value in this scene. First off, this allows Rory to actually advance herself as a romance option. Prior to this point she hadn't really made any moves, but this allows her to set a tone where she can actively pursue him, and there's not a lot of question as to her interest. Second, it's a call back to the battle at Italica: there is a legitimate justification for why she is aroused right now, and why she really needs to... take care of it, one way or another. And that bit of data also reminds us of the fact that you can't conceal nearby fighting from her just by using silencers: when someone dies nearby she'll know, no matter what.

I didn't really understand the part where they said that the gear was something the US Special Forces would have gotten at Akibahara. Why was that relevant?

Just conceals the wearer's identity. They're using local-bought equipment except for their guns (which they obviously can't get in Japan).

[thundrakkon]

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Ah, ok, thanks. That would also explain why they were so under-equipped for a special ops mission.

[frodonk]

I will not go into the "Japanese forces are better than the US forces" thing, I don't want to touch that ticking time bomb

Rory can definitely do something to them, and looks like whatever fight there will be will be short, like 1/4 of the next episode.

A Defense Minister who likes Manga, where have we seen that before? Although the guy I'm referring to was the Finance Minister, not the Defence minister, and was famous for liking Rozen Maiden.

Archers, Grail and Servant callsigns huh? They've been watching too much Fate series lately

[Flower]

Well...not bad overall, once again.

I thought how they portrayed Itami's ex-wife was a bit more flattering than I was expecting, but I rather liked it on the overall effect.

Poor Itami got punched...again.

[Jerseykid]

It's totally ok if the girl is 900 years old

[lubczyk]

Japan already has 6,000 of the other world prisoners. What is the point of kidnapping some of the other world diplomats when Japan controls the GATE? I'm not saying such a thing wouldn't happen. People do irrational and illogical things all the time, but I don't see what the end goal is here?

[Top Sergeant]

I re-watched the episode, and for some reason the scene with Rory silently praying in the dawn light seemed very cool to me. Not flashy, just straightforward and sincere.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Top Sergeant

I re-watched the episode, and for some reason the scene with Rory silently praying in the dawn light seemed very cool to me. Not flashy, just straightforward and sincere.

Whereas all I could think about was a comment someone made in response to that manga page, theorizing what she was praying: "Dear God, please let me kill lots of people today."

[DemonneoPT]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

The foreign intruders here are the "bad guys" and the JSDF special forces are the "good guys" according to the story, so the "bad guys" will always be outclassed by the "good guys" in this sort of situation, even if they logically shouldn't be.

This needs the "Thank you" gif so much xD
Finaly someone understands that the JSDF are the heroes of this story. And as every hero, they have the skills to eventually outclass everyone. It's a standard procedure in action animes. For example, just look at Itami... the Minister itself said if he was with him he would be ok, because Itami is the most "powerful" bodyguard ever..lol. Even the dialogues act accordingly to what i said before. Can't understand why some people are so butthurt about this. It's just a fantasy story that use some elements from our world :/

[rladls2121]

Itami, and that soldier by him, they really has their hands full.
I even thought they foresee the drunken women sliding the door after the bath.

Though most of the time, even though Itami's face looks nonchalant, he has lot of things in his mind.
His ex-wife, the three main heroine, Pina, and the Golden Drill, Defense Minister, the enemy and his comrades.
The orders of protecting the "guests", I think he can't really fail, especially to the females.
The peace did not last long, ironic that the most relaxing place has to turn into a battlefield.

I do not know if Rory is creeped out or disappointed by the dolls somehow resembles her.

At one night Pina and Golden Drill discovered something, and something while most people are sleeping.
They have little time to check things out for though, knowing that they have to go back to their world soon.

[IceHism]

Japan has one of the strongest militaries in the world despite its small size. I think they're the 7th biggest in terms of military budget? Why are people underestimating them.

Everything else was amusing

[Magewolf]

The first half was fun and I like the ex-wife.

So the U.S. is not willing to take the minor steps it would take to gain access to the gate. But they are willing to murder allied citizens to kidnap a few people who would do them no good at all.

[rladls2121]

That's right I forgot, even though the politicians are saying they are fighting to protect the country, the ones who are fighting are the soldiers.
For the soldiers, protecting the countries means that they cannot let themselves die and protect their own lives to protect others.

Right now both sides are fighting, and whatever each sides have different reasons why they are fighting, in the end, they have to at least stay alive to lessen the casualties as possible.

[SakurazukaJames]

And I thought Mahouka was nationalistic, but this is just ugh.

[Tri-ring]

The main reason why the JSDF was able to make so many hits was because they had "home ground" advantage.
They had drones with infrared video and all the back up they can get through com.
The invaders on the other hand not being able to leave things behind being it a clandestine operation, they didn't have that support. They wouldn't have risked a sat comm operation within a nation that has enough technology in a well defended area to render them useless either.
If it was the other way around, it would have been JGSDF or any other adversary special service operators that had been lying on the ground.

[YF19EX]

I love Hollywood war movies. I love watching the US kick ass and take names and I also enjoy the movies that don't always show the better side of us or the battles we are in.

That being said I have no problem with Japan being the hero in this story. If they want to portray the US in a negative light its their story to tell. Although I will be more interested when they get back across the Gate and see how the JSDF play out on the other side more.

In this ep, part of me feels they are more CIA style contractors with prior Special Forces experience than SOCOM. One even remarked that he "was" once Force Recon (Marines) which are also under SOCOM. Plausible deniability. Although the President pretty well came out and said what he was doing anyway.

[SakurazukaJames]

Thanks for explaining, but why was this scene even necessary, I mean what was going to happen if they succeeded? I also rolled my eyes at the foreign operatives "underestimating" the JSDF and that's why they lost. My problem isn't that the JSDF are the heroes, it's that everyone else is so cartoonishly stupid/or evil.