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View Poll Results: Favorite Pairing in Code Geass R2 | |||
Lelouch Stays Single | 141 | 13.51% | |
Lelouch x C.C. | 678 | 64.94% | |
Lelouch x Kallen | 340 | 32.57% | |
Lelouch x Millay | 54 | 5.17% | |
Lelouch x Harem | 121 | 11.59% | |
Suzaku Stays Single | 148 | 14.18% | |
Suzaku x Nunally | 60 | 5.75% | |
Lloyd x Millay | 23 | 2.20% | |
Viletta x Ougi | 179 | 17.15% | |
Rival x Millay | 93 | 8.91% | |
Lloyd x Cecile | 116 | 11.11% | |
Kanon x Nina | 45 | 4.31% | |
Xing-ke x Tianzi | 150 | 14.37% | |
Todou x Chiba | 81 | 7.76% | |
Gino x Anya | 52 | 4.98% | |
Cornelia x Guilford | 142 | 13.60% | |
Zero x Kaguya | 87 | 8.33% | |
Others (please list) | 96 | 9.20% | |
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2008-08-29, 18:31 | Link #3983 |
I'll end it before April.
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Because i'm more objective than the other (some not all) and that i don't say in my post than kallen is a bitch maybe (or evil) ? But i admit that i'm biased sometimes (and everyone is anyway). Anyway it will be my last post on this, we're in the romance thraed and i'm not here to start a war.
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2008-08-29, 18:33 | Link #3984 | |
Lelouch x CC
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2008-08-29, 18:39 | Link #3987 |
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That Kallen would have to rape Lelouch for anything of the kind to happen. I'd rather not see that.
Well, Kallen having Lelouch's kid seems way too much for a "no clear winner" scenario. But I could see an open ending to satisfy most fans. A scene with C.C that C.C fans would see as victory, and a scene with Kallen that Kallen fans would see as victory too (...neverending shipping wars, yay). Heck, I'd even expect an ambiguously gay dialogue at the very end to satisfy everyone. Marketting power. |
2008-08-29, 18:42 | Link #3988 | |
Lelouch x CC
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2008-08-29, 19:46 | Link #3989 |
Black King x Red Queen
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I like both Kallen and C.C but I personally think if their a couples at the end Lelouch might not be apart of one. Lelouch "cares" for people he cares about C.C and Kallen differently. The only person he loves is his Nunnally as a sister. Unless he changes in the next 4 episode love is beyond his understanding. I'd be satisified if the three live and stay friends all taking care of Nunnally. Kallen never did anything so I don't know why she has too die? And how is she a bitch just because she loves Lelouch? Well than half the girls in Geass do. C.C should live because she's suffered so much already she deserves to live a happy life for once. Lelouch well we wouldn't be happy if he died plus he can live to atone for his sins. Suzaku can live too because Nunnally would be sad if he died. Anyway people will probably hate me for saying this.
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2008-08-29, 23:41 | Link #3991 | |
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Hey relax, it is and propably will always be just a pairing...merely fanonwise. I'm not sure what you guys regard as shipping, to me it is nothing more than just watching/drawing some fanarts/doujins and reading/writing some fanfics...Moreover, some ramblings don't hurt that much. The average shipper doesn't fool around and howl "go die" to people who prefer a different pairing. BTW, which kind of pairings do you like? The one that is more possible to be canon, or the one you actually find appealing? That's why I've chosen GinoXKallen over Kalulu, and Kalulu over CluCLu. |
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2008-08-29, 23:44 | Link #3992 | |
'Sup Ballers
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2008-08-29, 23:49 | Link #3993 | |
[Your] clan on Steam
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2008-08-30, 00:33 | Link #3996 | ||||||
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:P Typos galore, man. Were you half-asleep or something (don't worry, I can sympathize...)? To be honest, I don't think you supported your premise here nearly as well as you did in the first post of yours I read; primarily because, your criticisms of Kallen aren't nearly as strong or well-conceived as the ones you threw at Suzaku.
Though maybe that is to be expected; as you yourself stated that Kallen is your second favourite female character. As far as I can tell, your main argument has been that Lelouch has kept Kallen far away for most of the series, so that even if she has been making significant gains throughout this season, this will likely be a case of 'too little, too late'? But if that's truly the sum of it, and you don't actually have anything against the idea--ideological and symbolical--of Kallen and Lelouch ending up together, then I'm not sure there's any point to tossing a purely predictive statement like "C.C. will win, if anybody will" into the 200 pages of this third "Romance in Code Geass" thread. :P Well, maybe that's just me. With the relation which was my principle interest in this section long dead and gone, I've got nothing to offer but opinion and little appreciation for possibilities and speculation. Ah, to bring this to the point. I'll first go through your posts touching briefly (eh...hopefully :P) on things I find notable as a short preview of my point of view, then end with a short summary of my views of C.C., Kallen, and Shirley. From the end of your first post: Quote:
That is to say, it seems to me that the cold, hard reality is that none of Lelouch's relationships with romantic interests are truly irreplaceable. The freedom and lack of selectivity with which Lelouch form's 'meaningful relationships' implies that ultimately, none of his relationships are truly meaningful. As for your second statement, that you would see Lelouch and C.C. together for the sake of them realizing what love and companionship really are, I cannot argue this would be good for them. However, with C.C. being one of the principle actors in pushing Lelouch towards a lonely path in the first place, I would find this a little sad and ironic. From your second post: Quote:
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But while I saw C.C. as the shadow of a foreboding future, I never bore disdain for her mind. Kallen, on the other hand, I saw as someone who fell too quickly into righteous arrogance and aggression. Furthermore, as a thoroughly uncreative person, she is often swept up by the words of others, unable or unwilling to find her own. Kallen seems to me to be the epitome of that subjective passion which only spawns and cultivates conflict, an uncompromising, unquestioning flame bound unflinchingly to self-interest. As someone who is changed rather than a changer, Kallen has always been ideally unsuited to pulling Lelouch off the path of destruction. So although that issue might potentially correct itself without her intervention, a future with them together would nonetheless bring me no satisfaction. As for Shirley...ah, I wish I could say more. Shirley is dead. I used to speak at length of what could be, and now others speak for me of what could have been. That validation is a hollow comfort. I am as broken as Lelouch is (as far as Code Geass goes). I can only hope he keeps me company. :P Sorry to end on so harsh and depressing a note. Last edited by Sol Falling; 2008-08-30 at 04:40. |
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2008-08-30, 02:25 | Link #3997 | |
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Really? No one has anything to say? I think your logic put the Romance wars to rest Sol lol
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2008-08-30, 06:02 | Link #3998 | ||
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But as for the developments that you mentioned, I'm afraid that understanding and falling in love with Lelouch still falls under the 'epitome of subjective passion' as I had mentioned before. I wouldn't really call quitting the Black Knights to chase after Lelouch out of love 'standing on her own two feet' either, self-sacrifice or not (to clarify; when I used the words 'self-interested' it was meant in the frame of 'subjectivity': when one chooses to devote oneself to a singular ideal without consideration for the suffering of others--that is 'self-interestedness'). Although again to clarify, these words are only relevant in a conversation addressing whether or not Kallen would suit Lelouch. Now about the 'being the next Shirley' issue, I'm curious: is this actually an argument KallenxLelouch fans are pushing? Although I'm dubious that Kallen fans would try to jam her into the mold of another character, if we were to seriously consider this, Kallen falls short on several levels. To illustrate: In terms of devotion, Kallen's confession to Lelouch was conditional and tearstained while Shirley's assumed rejection and faced it with determination to turn it around. In terms of understanding, Shirley demonstrated profound forgiveness and remarkable insight into Lelouch's circumstances and intentions in episode 13, with her knowledge of the 'true' Lelouch handicapped by a degree of magnitude, while Kallen spent three episodes pondering Lelouch's identity only to emerge giddy to use Nunally's death as an excuse to talk about her older brother and hoping Lelouch'd ask her to die with him. And finally, in terms of care versus blind obedience, we saw Kallen execute Lelouch's orders to kill his best friend without hesitation while Shirley helped realize the most significant step to their reconciliation in the entire series. Now of course this assessment is biased towards areas where Shirley excelled, but on the premise which started this discussion: she'd make a poor replacement. |
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2008-08-30, 06:47 | Link #4000 |
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I don't understand how her chasing after Lelouch, the person who's made all her hopes become tangible reality, makes her a hypocrite. If he has shown the ability to succeed and change the world, following him would make logical sense. Further this that, if she is a hypocrite for following him, then she's an even bigger hypocrite for falling in love with him. At least the former can be about results, her falling in love with him is completely independant of her other desires as this, one thing, is personal.
On Kallen being unable to alter Lelouch's path because she's just a follower. Episode 7 says 'Hello'. |
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