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View Poll Results: Hanasaku Iroha - Episode 15 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 6 | 14.63% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 12 | 29.27% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 10 | 24.39% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 10 | 24.39% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 4.88% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 2.44% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-07-11, 21:51 | Link #81 | |
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2011-07-11, 22:15 | Link #83 | |
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as long as Tohru doesn't get any episodes I'll be happy.
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2011-07-11, 23:35 | Link #84 |
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I agree with Soconfused. All the side arcs with the main girls maybe bar Tomoe are all connected to Ohana in some way. Also the next episode preview is kind of misleading because the summary is about how the union of the Ryokans are trying to deal with Yunosagi Silas and the episode after that is about a movie being shot in the Ryokan that may help boost publicity. I'm also betting an episode about Minko will definetely involve Ohana.
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2011-07-12, 01:41 | Link #86 | |
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Of course, for that to happen we'd need the consultant out of the picture... this is one reason I'm actually really interested in seeing how next week's Enishi focused episode plays out. ***************************** As for the episode itself, I find my feelings on the point of the episode are similar to Reckoner's: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...0&postcount=42 While I liked the episode, I felt it was one of the weaker ones in the series. And as with episode 9, I felt it was weaker than the first half of the two parter. In both cases, the episode setting up the crisis was more interesting to me than one about resolving it. I think this is in part because while this show is good at making tense situations, Ohana's solutions tend to be a bit straightforward and not interesting in and of themselves. The shower tactic helped, since it showed some ingenuity on her part (maybe she's moving away from being merely about brute force?), but I still preferred episode 14.
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2011-07-12, 04:00 | Link #87 | |
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Aye, I'm more with Reckoner and 0utf0xZer0 on this. I did like the episode, but I only thought it was good compared to the previous one (which I rated as excellent) mainly due to how I wasn't all that impressed by how the problem was solved (Ohana's positive attitude and wackiness continue to make me love her even more regardless) and that the plot itself seemed even further like a side story than an integral part of the plot (It only feels like that, but I'm aware that the realization Ohana came across is pretty important, as well as Yuina's development) so at the end I didn't quite enjoy it as I did last week, but still good effort.
The last scene at the outdoor bath was probably the best scene in the episode. Seeing how far Minko and Ohana's relationship had went (with some very subtle fanservice, impressively throughout the episode even) and the comedic play between them made me laugh. Other than that, I hope we don't really focus too much on Yuina anymore. Not due to me thinking that the side characters are hurting the show, but rather that I think she had already served her purpose. We need to focus more to the inn and the cast there first and foremost, and I look forward to nest weeks episode. Quote:
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2011-07-12, 05:07 | Link #88 | |
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Reminded me of this video (notices it's Onion network)
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2011-07-12, 05:09 | Link #89 |
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My current stance in this is if Ohana/Ko doesn't happen in the end, then at least the conclusion HAVE to be epic. Naturally, bonus points if it happened AND the ending is epic.
Looking at Ohana now and her mama's youth, I wonder how was grandma in her puberty days Well, to do it justice(?), the Japanese also had this culture of Dark Pot where they threw ingredients to a stew pot in the dark so nobody knows what's really in it. Sort of like Every Flavor Bean in HP I guess . Culinary can be weird sometimes.
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2011-07-12, 09:20 | Link #90 |
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Sadly this episode managed to make me dislike Yuina.
While Ohana was worried for the inn, Yuina was all like "I don't care, it's their problem, let's enjoy the trip!". Considering that she had known the innkeeper for a long time and that she badmouthed/rejected Yosuke in front of his coworkers, I hoped that she would feel at least a bit guilty. But nooo, she is really selfish and inconsiderate. Even in the end she only helped Yosuke because she felt jealous towards Ohana. Well, at least she finally understood the value of hard work. But I still dislike her and her annoying speech patterns.
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2011-07-12, 15:56 | Link #92 |
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I really liked Ep 15 ... it is nice to see how Ohana's growth is starting to affect other people for the better.
Admittedly I too was fairly unimpressed with Yuina throughout the last two eps - but people can change, after all....
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2011-07-12, 21:25 | Link #93 |
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While Yuina is still my second favorite character after Nako, but still i agree that i was not impressed with Yuina this arc.
It was the case of wise man is no longer wise when he speak. I found the whole thing about "wow, it is my first time working, and it is quite fun" lame. And then taking back the whole built up rejection in last episode showed her to be very immature when it come to making decision (just like how most high school students in real life are).
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2011-07-13, 03:35 | Link #94 |
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I feel like the staff hijack this episode to make sure Yuina doesn't beat the main character. She had all the potential characteristics and theme to own every character in the show, but they decided to dumb her down.
I don't need to experience hard work to figure out it is tough.
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2011-07-13, 05:28 | Link #95 | |
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I at first thought Yuina was a contrast version of Ohana. Ohana was basically 'dumped' into the Kissui inn and have to work there to feed herself at first, but slowly found the enjoyment of working as waitress. What i expected of Yuina was: while she has the right to inherit one of the largest inn in the region (and can marry into that guy's families, owning a whole bloody resort, and being part of Japanese filthy rich folks), she have a different career in mind, and want to get into colleague to follow that pathway, even when it could be more difficult and she has to build everything from scratches. But the show just make her into a spoiled princess, who don't want to do labour works and hasn't experienced a taste of works instead. Is this an attempt to signalize a message of typical Asian parents/ adults? On how kids should follow their parents career and work their asses off instead of dreaming on doing something else? Greatly disappointed
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2011-07-13, 08:01 | Link #96 | |
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Sure dream but its a dog eat dog world out there which is why one must acquire experience points. Put your money where your mouth is. Yosuke learned that the hard way with his temp workers leaving him to dry. Then it was Yuina's turn. She doesn't want hard labor but she believed she and Ohana are equal. Ohana has more experience points than she does as she wasn't treated as a princess growing up and had fend for herself, taking care also of an irresponsible mother to boot. Yuina has it pretty damn easy. |
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2011-07-13, 09:30 | Link #97 | |
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Still I means the career pathway rather than the degree of working experience. One can dream to be a doctor, an engineer while working part time in MacDonald.
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As for what isn't optional, that base attraction, that is what it is up to us as humans, as actual sentient consciences, to rise above. Relationships are a two way road--your basic attractions, if completely self-centered, are ultimately nothing but a fucking dead end. Even if it isn't some soul-borne companionship made by destiny you should at least apply some basic consideration to keep things pleasant all around. Kou has simply got no fucking clue on this--if you give to others, they will give to you. However, the only real way you can apply this principal is to actually think about how you can give in a way that people will actually be grateful for, rather than simply thinking to yourself "I gave so much for them" and then suddenly springing people with "Now it's your turn to give me something back". Quote:
As far as friendship and love--my position is that real friendship can occasionally be a fantastic base for a romantic relationship. This is obviously not the case with Kou, however, whose relationship with Ohana as far as we can see was only maintained on his end by his romantic emotions for her. You have to have an actual friendship before you can say that the relationship evolved platonicism to a romantic one. The ideal way for a pair of friends to become lovers, in any case is to have an open conversation before either one of them gets carried away with romantic ideas for the other. If the couple in question really do genuinely care for each other, then the relationship should be fine wherever it goes. The obvious problem in this case, if Kou really did feel friendship originally, was that he never gave real thought to Ohana's feelings on the matter. Finally, on Yuina, yeah it was pretty obvious that she'd gotten comfortable with the idea of Yousuke being into her. It was just deserts for her after it turned out that she had no fucking clue about what actual effort was, but for me that doesn't really mean anything as far as actually making Yousuke any better. Rather, as I said at the start, it pretty much only downgraded Yuina to the level of the rest of the dorks in this story. You're probably right, though, as far as this potentially signifying that Yuina and Yousuke are actually perfect for each other. Given the loss of potential Yuina had to undergo for this though, I dunno if I can feel that's actually a good thing :P. |
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Sure, he took the initiative by confessing. Sure, the timing was awkward. But it's been months, and Ohana hasn't really done anything to fix things, has she? Ultimately she has to take responsibility for her actions (or lack thereof). As for her feelings... If Ko has to take responsibility for them, who's going to take responsibility for his? Quote:
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