[MANGA] Bleach Weekly Chapter 500+ Discussion

[Helius]

Originally Posted by sayde

-confirmation of Aizen being a potential (which some fans seemed to have misinterpreted and argued against for awhile now) so this issue can finally be put to rest.

Potential for what, overthrowing the Spirit King? Or defeating Yhwach? Either way I guess Kenpachi is coming out as kind of a dark horse here.

[sayde]

Originally Posted by Helius

Potential for what?

"Potential" as in "special war potential". Yhwach and his group mentioned them--including the fact that they selected 5 of them in total. *points to chapters 490, 510*
Problem is we have yet to be told who they deemed the remaining 2 are.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by sayde

"Potential" as in "special war potential". Yhwach and his group mentioned them--including the fact that they selected 5 of them in total. *points to chapters 490, 510*
Problem is we have yet to be told who they deemed the remaining 3 are.

2. I think it's rather safe to assume Ishida is one, so that leaves one more.

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by sayde

Most interesting bits I took from this:
-Kukkaku's missing arm having a connection to the kings key (didn't see that coming)

this smacks of typical bad kubo writing. basically he just made a character who was missing an arm and thought to himself: "i can make up anything i want to explain this years from now and people will think i'm genius and planned it all along!" it's the type of 'mystery' that can literally become part of any future story arc and seemingly make sense as if it was planned from the start

i'm not saying you think he's a genius. i'm saying he thinks we think he is

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

this smacks of typical bad kubo writing. basically he just made a character who was missing an arm and thought to himself: "i can make up anything i want to explain this years from now and people will think i'm genius and planned it all along!" it's the type of 'mystery' that can literally become part of any future story arc and seemingly make sense as if it was planned from the start

i'm not saying you think he's a genius. i'm saying he thinks we think he is

I get the impression that not all of this stuff is sleight-of-ass on Kubo's part. I think Bleach ended up going longer than he planned, and most of the middle stuff wasn't originally planned, but a lot of what we're seeing now was. Part of the problem is that since so much of the middle was pulled right out of his kiester, that's kind of what we expect, and we forget how well the first arc held together. Plus a lot of stuff doesn't mesh with what we're seeing now. Someone ought to go back and read the SS Arc, then pick up at the beginning of this one, and see if it meshes a bit better. See if we can figure out where the BS begins and ends.

Besides. Even if you're right, better for the author to build in a hook and come up with something to use on it later, than for him to pull everything, hook included, out of his ass at the end.

[Bakaizer]

i think urahara kisuke is a war potential, considering he is genius and has yet to shown his bankai abilities

it about time Kubo shows everyone's bankai even if some are stolen

[SoloPanda]

Originally Posted by nikohowell

i think urahara kisuke is a war potential, considering he is genius and has yet to shown his bankai abilities

it about time Kubo shows everyone's bankai even if some are stolen

Yes but once he shows Urahara's bankai it will:

1: most likely be disappointing

2: be spammed constantly in every other fight from that point on

3: many fans will become enraged

I think this about covers it.

[Bakaizer]

Originally Posted by SoloPanda

Yes but once he shows Urahara's bankai it will:

1: most likely be disappointing

2: be spammed constantly in every other fight from that point on

3: many fans will become enraged

I think this about covers it.

i think you are quite disappointed with soifon's bankai perhaps, but hopefully it doesn't happen to kisuke

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by nikohowell

i think you are quite disappointed with soifon's bankai perhaps, but hopefully it doesn't happen to kisuke

soifon's bankai is downright awful. there's nothing remotely spiritual about a guided missile with a sight. kisuke's might as well be a tank or a submarine if kubo keeps going down that road. i don't think he will, but jeez... and yoruichi's better not be a fighter jet

[saravis]

Originally Posted by SoloPanda

Yes but once he shows Urahara's bankai it will:

1: most likely be disappointing

2: be spammed constantly in every other fight from that point on

3: many fans will become enraged

I think this about covers it.

You forgot,

4. Nobody will know what its supposed to do, perhaps not even Kubo. I'm looking at you Unohana.

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

and yoruichi's better not be a fighter jet

That's just silly, it'll be a mecha.

[sayde]

I can understand the skepticism. But I think Kubo's earned (through Yamamoto's bankai) the benefit of a doubt.

[SidVicious]

Any news about the next chapter?

[Crystal Dreamer]

Doesn't they come back 9/9?

[Kanon]

Yes, so next week for us netizens.

[Chiaki_chan]

This week yeah???? for come back??? *O*

[Frailty]

^next week, actually
it'll probably be scanlated in 2-3 days after the release

[sayde]

Yeah...I think this week is the 5th and final issue of "The Dagger".

Credit to Nick from BA for obtaining, translating, and providing the following info:

Spoiler for The Dagger:

Disclaimer: There was a LOT of kanji. Boatloads in fact. It took a long time to translate as well So far, my translations have been accurate and I don't think there should be any issues, but always take any translation with a pinch of salt and try not to too caught up in the semantics of any of the words I've used. That said, here we go.

Dagger Funf- Mystery and the Truth 2:

Page 1:
The truth behind the death of Masaki 20 years ago.
20 years ago the shinigami conducted an experiment in the real world. Isshin battled this hollow, White, and was rescued by Masaki the Quincy. That event was the beginning of destiny.

Masaki uses her body to stop the hollow. But what are the consequences of that action?
The injury caused by White has started the process of hollowification and a hole appears in Masaki's chest. Urahara lends his help. The Fullbringers have the strength of the hollows because their mothers were attacked by hollows. Could Ichigo's fullbring abilities have arisen from this event?

To stop the Hollow from devouring Masaki's soul, Isshin lost his powers. The Hollow in Ichigo's Inner world is released and assumes the appearence from before.

Masaki could have probably defeated Grand Fisher without even a single injury to herself. The Quincy who were decided as “unclean” and possessing impure blood were robbed of their powers.

Because Masaki was a Pure Quincy (Echt Quincy), her Blut Vene ability allowed her to defeat White. She received an injury from the hollow, her soul got mingled with the hollow's and during Bach's “Holy Selection”, he passed judgement that Masaki was “unclean” and her Quincy powers were lost.



Page 2:

After many times experimenting, White has been made. White has been made with the soul of a Shinigami. Who is this shinigami?
White the Hollow is all black. He has a hole in his chest that is blocked with “something”. He has very sharp blades for arms.
Aizen said he wanted to see an outcome (ref to. Chapter 533, pg 10). Was he refering to the Hollow that lives in the Inner world of Ichigo?!
Aizen has repeated the hollowification experiments he did a hundred years ago; where he manipulated souls of ordinary folk, Gotei members and the souls of Hirako and Co.

And White, the hollow Aizen created, resembles closely in appearance to the complete (or perfect?) Hollow that lives in Ichigo. The created hollow, based on the template of a Shinigami, chose a Quincy: a being the least like itself. Aizen and Co.'s expectations were betrayed when White commited suicide (or you may prefer self-destructed?). Doesn't he bear a resemblance to the complete Hollow Form that Ichigo took on?

In the passing of twenty years the Shiba Family has fallen. Is the cause of the downfall because Isshin saved Masaki's life by losing his Shinigami powers? Or is there someother reason in addition?
Kuukaku, who helps the Zero Squad return to the Spirit Realm mentions “Uncle” (Oji). Who could this person be? Ukitake nursed high expectations for Kaien to become a Vice-captain. 20 years ago, Isshin took the position of Captain of the 10th squad. It's not known if Kaien was from the head of the family or part of a branch (these two sentences not clear to me, so don't quote me on it).




Page 3:

These are supposedly just sentences sprawled across the page with relevant images in the background. There's no more elaboration to these "headlines".
Ishida Uryuu: Fallen into the camp gates!
The disappearing Seireitei!
The Vandenreich enter once more!


Page 4:

These are supposedly just sentences sprawled across the page with relevant images in the background. There's no more elaboration to these "headlines".

The World ends in 9 days.
A recipe for a secret strategy is being devised.
Intense training.
The Zero Squad's assistance.
A new Zanpaktou.
The Soul Society prepares to counterattack

[Chiaki_chan]

next week??? ok -_- snif

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Frailty

^next week, actually
it'll probably be scanlated in 2-3 days after the release

It comes back next week officially (9/9; I see what you did there Kubo), but we always get the chapters about week in advance on the interweb. The new chapter will be out on Wednesday.

[Vajra]

Damn was hoping it'd be out by now