(L) Freezing [Manga]

[Angrypokstick]

Originally Posted by Yorae_paladin1

as for primarchs considering they were made from the emperors super charged by ancient human psykers genome although much diluted since the emperor didn't want another him they are not abominations. such talk is HERESY report to the inquisition for painful re education

Total off topic but the primarchs are created by a powerful Psyker who creates half clones of himself using knowledge he gained from the warp and xenos. All primarch carries non-human DNA, whether it be animals or alien. So looking at this from an inquisitor's view in the 41st century, the actions of this psyker would be quite damning, though of course since its the emperor who created the Primarch its all good. Granted, the entire emperium is heresy in the emperor 's eyes as he strictly forbids his followers to worship him and the current Human empire is a long ways from what the Emperor hoped to build.

back on topic of Freezing, i am hoping to see how Kazuya takes these Revelations that his instincts are telling him that Cassandra is his real mom.

[Yorae_paladin1]

who knows what will happen with Kazuya the first revelation he isn't human explains a lot like his freezing powers

the second all the shit Gengo has done

[amtro]

We've known for some time already that Kazuya isn't human. This doesn't change anything, it just explains why Cassandra is so tied to him.

[Yorae_paladin1]

Originally Posted by amtro

We've known for some time already that Kazuya isn't human. This doesn't change anything, it just explains why Cassandra is so tied to him.

we knew but he didn't

[amtro]

He's known that he is the grandson of a transdimensional space deity since before the party began, it's sort of the reason why he pushed away Stella at first.
Anyway this chapter brings up an interesting question. Will Kazuya be able to have children in the future? We know that the Nova see a difference between Pandoras and other Nova, but they are also willing to recognise Novalized, or transcended Pandora as their own. The issue with Kazuha and Kazuya was that they were incompatible with their own mother since she was not part Nova like them.

[Yorae_paladin1]

Gengo i hate you more every chapter. stop making freaks.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by amtro

He's known that he is the grandson of a transdimensional space deity since before the party began, it's sort of the reason why he pushed away Stella at first.
Anyway this chapter brings up an interesting question. Will Kazuya be able to have children in the future? We know that the Nova see a difference between Pandoras and other Nova, but they are also willing to recognise Novalized, or transcended Pandora as their own. The issue with Kazuha and Kazuya was that they were incompatible with their own mother since she was not part Nova like them.

I don't see why not Maria could have them as a full. Ryuichi could have children with his wife as a half. No reason Kazuya who is somewhere in between couldn't. The mother just needs to be suitable.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by amtro

Anyway this chapter brings up an interesting question. Will Kazuya be able to have children in the future? We know that the Nova see a difference between Pandoras and other Nova, but they are also willing to recognise Novalized, or transcended Pandora as their own. The issue with Kazuha and Kazuya was that they were incompatible with their own mother since she was not part Nova like them.

As long as the mother is suitable I don't see why not. Stella and Rana probably wouldn't have any issues like Orie did.

[Angrypokstick]

We all know that Grandad Aoi wants to preserve as much of Maria's bloodline as possible.
If it were up to him, only the legendary pandoras would be the mothers of his descendents.

[DOmus]

So technically Cassandra IS a MILF???

[Angrypokstick]

Originally Posted by DOmus

So technically Cassandra IS a MILF???

Very much so.

[ChuckE]

Originally Posted by Angrypokstick

We all know that Grandad Aoi wants to preserve as much of Maria's bloodline as possible.
If it were up to him, only the legendary pandoras would be the mothers of his descendents.

Dat Gengo Incesteous bastard

[nooneagain]

damn I really feel bad for the aoi couple, especially Orie...

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by nooneagain

damn I really feel bad for the aoi couple, especially Orie...

Spoiler:

I still do, though not as much as before. When Orie snapped and tried to attack a pregnant and comatose Cassandra, that made me frown. Even more so when she proclaimed she would've rather died with Kazuya, so at least they'd be together. Serious mental breakdown there, though there seem to be no therapists, thus no one to aid Orie in her time of need.

And poor Ryuuichi, doing everything he can to maintain his marriage and family, yet fate seems to mock his efforts. And I know, the worst is yet to come.

Spoiler for Chapter 191 RAWs:

And man does it go from bad to worse in this chapter, as Orie's descent into madness becomes frighteningly more apparent, except to Gengo and Ryuuichi. Though a sympathetic Gengo gives her back Kazuya, he again rejects her because he doesn't recognize her as his mother. Later that night, Orie planned to smother him with a pillow, hoping it would've put everything back the way it was, so she could try again with another child. But then Kazuha catches her in the act, as the chapter comes to a close.

Spoiler for Freezing Zero Chapter 33 RAW:

So now we see Franka testing out the new Valkyrie technology, and she certainly fares a lot better than Christine did. ^^;; It also shows Ouka joining the team, and then they meet their last teammate, Lucie Renault, as the chapter comes to a close.

[Hokoga]

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

Spoiler:

I still do, though not as much as before. When Orie snapped and tried to attack a pregnant and comatose Cassandra, that made me frown. Even more so when she proclaimed she would've rather died with Kazuya, so at least they'd be together. Serious mental breakdown there, though there seem to be no therapists, thus no one to aid Orie in her time of need.

And poor Ryuuichi, doing everything he can to maintain his marriage and family, yet fate seems to mock his efforts. And I know, the worst is yet to come.

Spoiler for Chapter 191 RAWs:

And man does it go from bad to worse in this chapter, as Orie's descent into madness becomes frighteningly more apparent, except to Gengo and Ryuuichi. Though a sympathetic Gengo gives her back Kazuya, he again rejects her because he doesn't recognize her as his mother. Later that night, Orie planned to smother him with a pillow, hoping it would've put everything back the way it was, so she could try again with another child. But then Kazuha catches her in the act, as the chapter comes to a close.

After seeing the raws for chapter 191 Orie gets no sympathy from me

Spoiler for Ch191:

Since he doesn't see you as 'mama' it's ok for you kill him?

Does she really think that she would be able to start over with another child?, the Aoi's aren't stupid they would realize right away the actual cause of death and who was responsible for it.
Afterwards Aunty/Mama Cassandra would have killed her and probably bring down the curtains on the rest of humanity.

When do the next raws(ch192) come out?

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by Hokoga

After seeing the raws for chapter 191 Orie gets no sympathy from me

Spoiler for Ch191:

Since he doesn't see you as 'mama' it's ok for you kill him?

Does she really think that she would be able to start over with another child?, the Aoi's aren't stupid they would realize right away the actual cause of death and who was responsible for it.
Afterwards Aunty/Mama Cassandra would have killed her and probably bring down the curtains on the rest of humanity.

When do the next raws(ch192) come out?

Spoiler:

No one's saying it was okay, though Orie is clearly not in her right frame of mind. She's been slipping deeper into insanity throughout the whole flashback, yet nothing was done to treat it in any way. Just shows what happens when mental illness isn't treated, I suppose.

But I know Gengo wouldn't let Cassandra destroy all humans over this, otherwise she'd be proving the Novas are right. And that is simply not an option.

As for the next chapters, they'll be out near the end of the month, if not the start of March. Then we'll see where it goes from here. Until then...

EDIT: Whoa, the latest chapters show FTH's top-notch quality, and it's always appreciated.

And man, things really go from bad to worse, as Cassandra regresses into an N3 Nova state. And Arnett was perceptive enough to realize exactly what happened, kudos for that. And worse, five more N3 Novas have appeared on the field. So the 13th Nova Clash is officially underway. And that's really bad news, for everyone. Those Busters have no idea what they've wrought in their blindness, no idea at all.

[Johnny]

Spoiler for ch 192:

Damn, just damn. I'm surprised Kazuha didn't turn out to be psychotic nutjob...

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by Johnny

Spoiler for ch 192:

Damn, just damn. I'm surprised Kazuha didn't turn out to be psychotic nutjob...

Spoiler:

I know, right? Good thing Gengo was around, or else she might've become like the Busters. At least she can feel remorse, the same can't be said about her aunts, who seem to have no remorse about killing humans, regardless of the situation. I wonder how Kazuya will react when/if he learns the truth, can't wait to find out.

[Tempest35]

Wow, now this is one messed up family...

Spoiler for Revelations...:

Mother went insane, Father is useless, Grandfather is...a Gengo - enough said, Sister killed said crazy Mother, Auntie #1 is also 'Mamma'... I'd go a bit insane myself - just to keep up family tradition.

[vic-vic]

Originally Posted by Johnny

Spoiler for ch 192:

Damn, just damn. I'm surprised Kazuha didn't turn out to be psychotic nutjob...

Spoiler for 192:

Well, maybe there is also the fact that Orie, once she get stabbed seems to snap out of her insanity and, seeing just how much she sunk, tried to console her daughter.

She didn't scream "You mosnter!" "You killed me!" or something like that.Instead Orie caressed Kazuha's cheek and asked for frogiveness. And, before collapsing she gently give Kazuya to her.

And actually we even saw her spriti coming one last time to say that Kazuha didn't do anything wrong.