2004-10-09, 22:11 | Link #1 |
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Porco Rosso - Another Fine Ghibli Classic
hehe. Yes, if you're curious I'm currently working to get caught up on all the Ghibli films I have missed simply because I didn't know they existed. Porco Rosso is another one of those with lots of typical and lovable Ghibli charecters in an story that deals with a very troubled time in the world, especially Italy, in post WW1 just before the facists took over Italy before the start of WW2. The old school air combat mixed with the wide variety of very unique and colorful flying boats and other aircraft made this anime incredibly enjoyable. What made it even more fun is I'm a huge flying enthusiest so I love anime that deal with flying.
If you haven't seen this anime, I highly recommend it. When I first read the description about it I was a little aprehensive. Especially since it mentioned about a "pig" that piloted a flying boat who specialized in bounty hunting. But needless to say I was in no way disappointed. This was definately an anime to get and I'm thankful I could watch it. Has anyone else seen it? What did you think of it? Did you enjoy it? |
2004-10-10, 02:14 | Link #2 |
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I, personally, love the music from Porco Rosso. While the imagery was spectacular, especially during the slow flying scenes like when he was flying to Milan, I love the background music and Gina's singing. Ah... heaven. Porco Rosso is one of my favorite of the Ghibli movies, it's just such a pleasure to watch I find it better than Mononoke-hime. Every time I watch it I try to imagine what Marco looks like in the end, did he remain a pig or did he return to being a human?
I am curious, how is the Disney dub? I own the R2 versions of all (almost all) the Ghibli movies and while they do include English dubs I wouldn't say they're very good. ^^: So I'm curious about the Disney versions before I shell out even more cash to buy them. Maybe I'll just look into renting it... >.> |
2004-10-10, 02:16 | Link #3 |
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Porco Rosso definitely brings up golden memories. Too bad that the last time I saw it was something like 10 years ago, so there isn't much that I remember, but I enjoyed it a lot. Movie is quite lighthearted, feel-good-movie and I really like those kind of animes, plus great action with fight scenes.
Definitely one of the Miyazaki's best, second only to Nausicaä of the Valley of Wind. IMO I have read that the reason why the main character is a pig, is a symbol of his detachment from humans (and he was quite slobby too ) |
2004-10-10, 08:20 | Link #4 |
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Mr. Paper, the english dub is decent. It won't rot your ears off, but it's also not as good as some of the other disney english anime dubs I've seen. But it's watchable with the english dub. It's better watching it in japanese with english sub. The voices seem to have more charecter and they do a lot better job of showing how hyperactive that one mechanic girl is all the time.
Man, and to think I used to swear by english dubs. Now the majority are unbearable. ^_^;; |
2004-10-10, 12:55 | Link #5 |
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you know, a funny thing about Miyazaki/Ghibli movies is that theiy're sometimes related somehow... remember when you posted about "The cat returns" and I said that it mentioned some of the characters from "Whisper of the heart"? Well, in "Whisper of the heart" some characters from Porco Rosso are also mentioned.
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2004-10-10, 17:14 | Link #6 | |
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2004-10-10, 19:31 | Link #7 |
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Well, I actually found out about a lot of these films I didn't know about from a friend, then in turn when researching them I found nausicca.net and ended up finding out about even more Ghibli films. It's funny how research into one anime ends up making you aware of so many others.
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2004-10-11, 07:16 | Link #8 | |
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2004-10-11, 12:27 | Link #10 |
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HAHA. If it hasn't been released yet then my friend has a bootleg. Cause it's got english dub and japanese with english sub on it. I'm broke as broke gets right now so I haven't been buying any dvd's since...oh, early may. Can't afford them right now, so I've been hitting up my friends for their copies to watch some of this stuff. That's how I've found out about a lot of these Miyazaki films I didn't know about. Well, them and Naussica.net.
Also, looking at the movie release date (1992) I find it kind of hard to believe a movie that old that's licenced under the Disney-Tokuma deal from the start would NOT be in R1 DVD yet. Looking at what Amazon has, they show a tenative date of Jan 1, 2010. That tells me that the dvd info hasn't been given to them nor are they able to sell it yet which would lead me to believe that the dvd was released at one time, pulled due to lack of popularity due to age and product saturation (a common strategy of disney) and then redone and re-released later on for a new generation or new group of people to buy. Heck, they've done it repeatedly with disney classics like snow white and bambi. Why would this be any different? Also, more research has DVDPacific showing a release date of 12/31/2025, while animeondvd shows the release date as Dec 12 2012. Now here's something even more interesting. A little googling brings up that the R2 release date on VHS as June 1, 1993. Rereleased on DVD in 1998, rereleased in a multi-language compilation in 2002. It was released in the states in 1995 as a VHS, and 1998 as a dvd but pulled within 6 months due to lack of interest apparently. It's being re-released again as a new compilation at an undecided time in the near future. That's the info I have so far. Not all of it may be 100% accurate, but it's what I've gathered by doing some googling, so it's entirely possible his dvd is either legit or bootleg, but I'd bet legit. (gauds, I'm long winded. ^_^) |
2004-10-11, 13:08 | Link #11 |
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Studio Ghibli is undoubtedly the greatest thing ever, not only in the anime world, but in all the film/moving pictures I've seen. Really. Miyazaki and Takahata are my two favorite directors of all time, with Satoshi Kon at third place. I have yet to see The Cat Returns and Ocean Waves (and Howl's Moving Castle), and I look forward to them both very much.
Porco Rosso is pure Miyazaki, and I love it to bits. The music, the animation, the story, the characters... ahh, it's just too much. Mr. Paper -- the scene where Porco is flying over the sea (I'm not sure which sea... maybe to Milan) and that beautiful song with the violins is playing is one of my favorites throughout the whole movie. Definitely one of Joe Hisaishi's best songs in *any* movie. My most favorite scene in all of Porco Rosso is probably the flashback in which Porco is still human. The whole thing with the cloud and the ghosts of destroyed planes sends shivers down my spine every time I watch it. I can't wait to get the DVD. |
2004-10-11, 19:06 | Link #12 |
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Well when Disney releaseed the first batch of Miyazaki movies about a year and a half ago they announced that they would release a second batch of his movies around september/ october 2004 which includes Porco Rosso, Nausicaä and a new two disc set of Totaro. However it was delayed or something.
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Miyazaki mulls over Porco Rosso sequel
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(1) I'm not sure if I should be thrilled about a sequel to what I consider an already completed story. What more is there to explore about Marco's story, especially since it's likely that Spoiler for the original movie:
(2) Suzuki was planning to cut Studio Ghibli down to five staff? Does this mean the studio is suffering from financial difficulties? If so, this is the first time I'm reading about it. If even Ghibli cannot weather the storm, what more can we expect from the rest of the industry? |
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Yeah not that sure how i'd feel about a sequel, though i'd certainly be interested in seeing what one could be about (especially being set during the Spanish Civil War). There were a few unanswered questions in the film, though that was one of the beauties about it.
So yeah, not sure how i'd feel about this. Guess i'll just wait for more information.
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I would be very disappointed if Hayao Miyazaki could not produce at least one more completely original story and setting in the vein of Nausicaa, Totoro, and Mononoke, in his lifetime (speaking as someone who was not blown away by Ponyo). I'm always inclined to be skeptical of sequels no matter where they appear, but I suppose it feels somewhat disappointing to see Miyazaki revisiting old concepts. I have been waiting for a new "knockout" film from him since Spirited Away. Of course, it could always be the case that Miyazaki has some brilliant idea for Marco - we'll have to wait and see.
I have a feeling that Suzuki's comment about basically firing the entire staff except for the core administrative team (five people) was just a tad exaggerated in hindsight. However, someone on the ANN board posited the idea that it may have also been influenced by another fact: that the historically important figures at Ghibli (Miyazaki, Takahata, Suzuki) are all past retiring age and they still haven't found competent replacements, Miyazaki is still primarily the draw at Ghibli, and there's no one to take the company forward at the same pace. From that perspective, the idea of "quitting before the company starts going downhill" makes sense, though I'm pretty sure this is not how a businessman would think.
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