Rozen Maiden ~Träumend~ (Season 2)

[Question]

Why dont we just accept that father and enju are magicians who specialise in creating magical dolls and that they have magical powers to deal with aging issues?

It would be pretty silly to start something like the alice game that would last for hundreds of years if you werent capable of some form of physical immortality to stop aging from killing you.

[Kageitenshi]

Why don't we just accept it? Because truth can not be found in what we see, but we can get closer to seeing it by deducting what we do not see... There's no factual evidence to support your opinion, any of my theories or anything and there never will be unless the story writer tells us his ideas on what's going on. If we just don't see enough, we're free to use our imagination to fill in the rest and to see if it'll come true if or when the third season comes out.

Besides, there wouldn't be any discussion if no-one questioned anything that has happened so far..... eeep, got to go before I get late from work! :P

[Question]

There are 2 scenarios.

Scenario 1 : They have some powers to make themselves immune to aging.

Scenario 2 : They DONT, but yet they are alive hundreds of years later anyway.

[Airrider]

Scenario 2 seems most plausible to me...

[grey_moon]

Or they really are dolls themselves and Alice is their Frankenstein's bride!

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by Question

There are 2 scenarios.

Scenario 1 : They have some powers to make themselves immune to aging.

Scenario 2 : They DONT, but yet they are alive hundreds of years later anyway.

My vote is for Scenario 2. What is likely is that these guys goes into somekind of time-stop until enough rozen maidens wakes up to resume Alice game. If they are active one year and then sleep for 50 years, they would age only about 9~10 years in 500 year span.

[Deathkillz]

who knows...maybe enju has his own life sized suitcase as well for sleeping in what a sight that would be to see a guy wake up after 100 years of being stuffed in a suitcase
or the easy option would them to hibernate in their own N field :3

[Airrider]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

who knows...maybe enju has his own life sized suitcase as well for sleeping in what a sight that would be to see a guy wake up after 100 years of being stuffed in a suitcase
or the easy option would them to hibernate in their own N field :3

That'd be an easy explanation (the N-field one) because nobody said time had to stay constant in one of those things. Maybe it's like a time machine...

[devilgirl11]

lol i think i'm crazy if i ask this but when bara died enju dissapeared but if one of the real rozen maidens has all roza mysticas and they would end up like bara then would rozen dissapear?
(and if it doesnt happen in the manga then sorry ppl they dont sell them in estonia so i havent read it..)

[Deathkillz]

if a real rozen maiden had all the roza mysticas then the one will become alice and rozen is most likely to come out with some flowers

bara only disappeared because she wasnt able to contain all the power being a fake rozen maiden...

[devilgirl11]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

if a real rozen maiden had all the roza mysticas then the one will become alice and rozen is most likely to come out with some flowers

bara only disappeared because she wasnt able to contain all the power being a fake rozen maiden...

ohh ok but still i wonder what will happen if alice will be ready.. Will rozen die cause he is like 100 years old xD

[Tsuigintou]

I wonder if enju has any blood relation to Rozen or not. Because he looks almost the same like Rozen. Since, he is able to manipulate Rozen's doll's(tricking them into starting the Alice game), he must now quite a detail of info about the game.

[Deathkillz]

^ no they are not related what so ever...enju is only rozen's jealous apprentice (and he probably had a face lift to make himself look like rozen )

Originally Posted by devilgirl11

ohh ok but still i wonder what will happen if alice will be ready.. Will rozen die cause he is like 100 years old xD

rozen...die? never...i think in the RM universe he is symbolized as a god...hell know why

[Lost]

Maybe Rozen is already dead. For all we know, this "program" he instituted, Alice Game, and it's moderator, Laplace, is just going on and on and on.

Originally Posted by grey_moon

Or they really are dolls themselves and Alice is their Frankenstein's bride!

I now wonder what Enju did with Barasuishou in all the free time he had...

[Zife19]

wow...I really hope Enju wasnt like that n_n;; lol

ANyway I wanna see Barasuishou back. Sure she killed most of the maiden, sure shes cold hearted, and sure shes a mindless zombie, but hey thats what I like about her. Though to join them...it would certainly be interesting.

[Lost]

Well, I doubt that's possible; she did disintegrate before disappearing to god knows where. In other words, it looked pretty hopeless. But yes, she had an interesting personality, of which we only got a little glimpse of in Traumend. Then again, she was indirectly responsible for Souseiseki's death, which made my Queen-sama cry; unforgivable!!

[Azzie]

Regarding Bara-san, she showed signs of autisim (probably because she's a fake doll) but.. I think there is another Bara-san , and instead of a Crystal theme , its now a white Rose theme - a possible plot for shinku.

or maybe.. Rozen gave Bara-san a second chance? , I mean.. She got recreated and Laplace sort of lead her to where ever..

[nekokaburi]

if series 3 did come about, i wouldn't mind seeing bara come back... but then again, i would rather see something else more...

picture this....

>scene open<
enju, frustrated and angry, still desperatly clutching the crumbled remains of barasuishou, returns to his workshop... "how could my doll lose, she was better than them, I am better than them, better than rozen, i am the best..." he places bara's remains on his work bench, and feverishly goes about trying to create her replacement.

>scene changes to the shop front, we can still hear enju frantically talking to himself in the background, about how he's the best<
the glass on the side of his doll cabinet flickers, a single white rose petal falls to the ground.

>scene changes, back to enju's workshop, we see enju in the foreground, but the focus is on the ghostly figure, walking up behind him...<
enju still frantically working with his new doll still doesn't notice... sudenly the doll he's working on slips out of his hands and falls on the bench... enju is frozen with fear, but he doesn't know why... sweat is dripping from his forehead... his breathing is slow, and quivering...

he turns to face his visitor... who stares back at him with her single yellow eye... a wicked smile is on her ghostly face, as she reaches out to him, caressing his cheeck with her hand...

>scene changes, to the crumbles remains of barasuihou<
we see what remains of bara's face, shattered and broken lying on the bench, her remaining eye seems to be staring at her creator. his shadow is cast upon her, as wickedly barded rose vines tear their way through his flesh, a single tear rolls down her shattered face...

>scene changes, back to floor of the workshop<,
we see enju's hand in the forground, covered in blood lying liflessly on the ground, entwined in rose vines with a single white rose between his fingers... we also see the figure in white walking away, back to the shadows...

>fade to black<

creative license or what, but i think it could work... it'd make a great opener for series 3. it ties off the lose ends with bara and enju, and introduces kira at the same time...

[Lost]

^ Nice, very nice indeed. A question; where would BB be in all this? We saw him leading Kirakishou at the end of Traumend, so he must figure somewhere.

[grey_moon]

I know why Kira is mad,
it is not coz Rozen didn't complete her,
it's not coz of BB manipulating her.
No it was coz Rozen imagined her with a thorny rose stem in her eye socket.
Talk about a migraine!