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View Poll Results: Higurashi Kai Episode 5 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 98 | 69.50% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 20 | 14.18% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 9.93% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 4.96% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.42% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2007-08-04, 12:21 | Link #81 | |
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However, the news pretty much imply that the SDF was on the field during the same night when the disaster occured. (The presentator mentioned the disaster happened yesterday late at night. since it was still dark when the soldiers were dispatched, there is no way they took more than 6 hours) @Level E : Spoiler for Yakusamashi-Minagoroshi, no spoiler, no events:
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2007-08-04, 14:04 | Link #85 | |
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No, I feel that Satoko had to have been unconcious a whole day. The perpetrators wanted her body discovered before the disaster. That simply could not have happened between the time Satoko fell and daybreak. |
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2007-08-04, 14:10 | Link #86 | ||
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Even if the SDF seems to be really dubious, such case is hardly avoidable, and evidences on the site are clearly not something eraseable And as logic, her murder must be "before the disaster", otherwise, she should have died because of the gas as well. (the area of such disaster is extremely wide, and should also reach the shrine, which isn't that far away from the village) So the culprits don't need to expose Rika a day. It is even worse : if they keep waiting, people will be really excited (as being really devoted to oyashiro-sama) as their Miko died, so they will probably go in riots, and maybe some would flee the village. this is NOT something the culprits would like for the extermination. (heck, what would they do, if the police begins to lurk around and investigate anything dubious for a whole day? such thing will hinder the GHD plan) and since when the bodies wouldn't be allowed to be out? They are supposed to have died in a gas disaster, that doesn't prevent them to evacuate the bodies (why would the SDF come with ambulances and trucks? in many instances, you see them wrapping the corpses and loading them in their trucks) Quote:
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2007-08-04, 17:29 | Link #87 | |
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Kind of obscure, but I'd wager their style of murder was inspired by the Bertolucci movie The Conformist. (Or Il Conformista) Check it out: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=GHMm2VzZ2OY |
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2007-08-04, 18:39 | Link #89 | |||
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you are playing with words here. and like i said, police would be lurking around. no seriously, this doesn't make sense as Rika's body was investigated as well. (himatsubushi referrence). a difference of 20-24 hours is so stretch that it is simply impossible. Quote:
furthmore, disposing the corpses is too reckless, and i would hardly believe Akasaka and Ooishi would forget this point in their investigation. not to mention Sawada. Quote:
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2007-08-04, 19:38 | Link #90 | |
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Spoiler for Are spoiler tags still necessary at this point?:
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I'm still thinking that by the time the final arc rolls around, Rika will have to smarten up her friends and get them to help her, and all of them, survive. She will not be able to do this on her own. |
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2007-08-04, 19:56 | Link #92 |
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If I remember correctly, the Hinamizawa residents were gassed using poisons that were identical to those that might appear in an actual gas leak. So autopsies don't matter. Also, when a mass of people die, you don't leave them around- you move them from the spot that they died in. I'd imagine that they'd be pilled up for a mass cremation or something like that.
A lot of people said that the guys in the grey used combat knives. Those looked like regular switch blades to me. I don't know what they used in Japan at that time, but normally combat knives are meant to kill a person quickly. The knives I saw looked like the kind that would make a person bleed to death, which could take anywhere between a few minutes to an hour. But there's no clear image of them, and a murder weapon is still a murder weapon. Cheezy: If you don't fall in an incorrect manner into deep water, you won't be mortally wounded even if it's from 3 stories up. Of course, your physical condition also matters. And then by sheer luck, Satoko managed to wind up on some rocks. I'd be most worried about her freezy to death at night after getting her clothes wet. |
2007-08-04, 20:35 | Link #93 | |
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Spoiler for rika's mindset issue for Minagoroshi, because of Yakusamashi. no spoiler event:
Leason of this chapter : you can't do everything alone.
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2007-08-04, 20:39 | Link #94 |
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First, let's start with the already cliched statement that I thought the episode was great. The nurse was creepy, Ooishi's outburst when he grabbed Satoko freaked me quite a lot, something that surprised me since you know, on paper there have been some scarier scenes in Higurashi which have not affected me much.
As already discussed, I was mostly baffled by the pile of bodies in the school. I wonder why the bad guys with the hats/unknown perpetrators in other acts always kill Rika in the same place. If they are going to gas the village anyway, what does it matter where the body is found? Or maybe someone else gases the village after the body is found and by killing her there they fullfil the condition that leads to the extermination?
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2007-08-04, 21:42 | Link #95 |
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I think we're not looking enough at the issue of why people would want to gas or otherwise destroy a small village, anyway. That's not standard mercenary work, and somebody here is looking at the big picture, not focusing on individuals so much as we are (excepting Rika).
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2007-08-04, 22:28 | Link #96 |
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Well, I'd guess I'll lead the theory into the right direction, within the confines of what is given up to this episode:
What are the MIGs doing when they are killing Rika at the shrine? Refer to the story of Watanagashi. Remember? The story about "wata" being a homonym for "intestines" and you have your clue right there. Why carry out Rika's murder at the shrine and not somewhere else? What's the shrine's name? What is the purpose of the mass death? Refer to the idea that Rika is the supposed reincarnation of the Oyashiro-sama. What was the theoretical outcome if the villagers found out about Rika's death? What arcs proved that theory to be false? Connect the dots and one can deduce the culprit's intent.... Is the Great Hinamizawa Disaster for real? Let's see
What's the deal with the missing 20 people including Rena? Some people are sharper at detecting things than others. You've all seen Rena's amazing detective skills and reading people's behaviors, right? Who is behind the MIGs? Hmm let's see...night vision goggles in the early 1980s, combat knives, silencers, military coordination skills and training. Definitely not your normal run-of-the-mill yakuzas. Last edited by kj1980; 2007-08-04 at 22:52. |
2007-08-04, 23:00 | Link #98 | |
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Easily saw through Kei's lie being with Oishi (lesson learned: never lie to Rena) Watanagashi-hen/Meakashi-hen Figuring out Rika and Satoko's disappearance from their residence to the Sonozaki residence Tatarigoroshi-hen Caught on what Satoko had to endure from Teppei (I don't think this was animated, but it was in the manga) Tsumihoroboshi-hen Sharpness of Rena of not liking Rina in the first place and figuring out the scam against her father. |
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2007-08-05, 01:01 | Link #99 | |
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Spoiler for Not really a revelation at this point:
Still there are two revelations in this episode: Revelation 1: We now know how many plumbers there are. There are 19. Revelation 2: Far more importantly, we now know why Rika says "nipa". Makes me wish this wasn't the first Rika/Hanyuu afterword I got to hear in a language other than Finnish. |
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2007-08-05, 01:36 | Link #100 | |
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