Kantai Collection ~Kancolle~ (Browser Game)

[risingstar3110]

If you send the support fleet on AL. Would it be locked onto Al as well?

[Lantern]

^ No they don't

[gecd]

I spoiler myself with this event BGM and wow
the final one reminds my of umineko

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Sparkle + formation is vital for the trollsub node.

I used horizontal formation

[kaizerknight01]

Originally Posted by panzerfan

Ok. Stick 1x Zuiun and 1x Sanshikidan on Kumano. Do you have a second CAV? If you do, go for the same setup.
After that, you need to make some Saiun yellow planes. You need 4 of them, put 2 on Chitose and 2 on Chiyoda.

You need to prepare for support expedition as well while you sparkle your ships before you send them out. Support expedition will take out 1-2 DD, which betters your situation greatly, while sparkling will give your ships evasion boost and higher armor during night battle.

The easiest way to get a CAV ready is to obtain a Mogami from say 3-2A node. Mogami can be made into a CAV at level 10.

E 2 is driving me nuts!! damaged the boss gauge up to 1/2 but there a couple times i've gone off course it started when changed the set up on a CAV to carry a type 3 shell and removing a zuiun ( at least 20 or more times got off course and alot of times , my ship girls gotten to critical hp, forced to fall back and wasted a lot resources on the wrong set up... i'll try using your suggestion on 2 saiun the cvl set up .... and should put any bombers/torp bombers or all fighters on remaining slots of the CVL

[hydropod]

Guys, I am putting this out here to see wether I am thinking to much into this, or if the devs are trying to tell us something:

I was just checking out the boss dialogues online, (as I missed a lot of it during my run)
When I heard E4 boss death lines, I suddenly realised she was talking about 慢心, which reminded me of our favourite bauxite monster.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24194543

E5 boss sinking lines are even more disturbing, as her voice changed at the very end to a very familiar one of that of Kaga! (at least I thought it sounded like her!)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24194612

So what do you guys think?

[Estavali]

hydropod, links' not working

[Myssa Rei]

Originally Posted by hydropod

So what do you guys think?

You are overthinking, like the many doujin writers. Also, given how they're throwing HELLCATS, HELLDIVERS, and AVENGERS at us, I don't think anyone's fooled anymore as to who the Abyssals really are. It's just that the Japanese are very good at ignoring the historical implications of all this.

[hydropod]

Originally Posted by Estavali

hydropod, links' not working

Fixed them.

[hydropod]

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

You are overthinking, like the many doujin writers. Also, given how they're throwing HELLCATS, HELLDIVERS, and AVENGERS at us, I don't think anyone's fooled anymore as to who the Abyssals really are. It's just that the Japanese are very good at ignoring the historical implications of all this.

I am aware of that too, but its bizzare how the devs won't tell us exactly who they are, put in US equipment, then throw in dialogues like the ones I linked.

[Ithekro]

So basically the Wo-class are Yorktown, Enterprise, and Hornet?

[Myssa Rei]

Originally Posted by hydropod

*snips*

They just don't want to step on any sensitive toes. That said, the writing is on the wall -- given the implications, this is EXACTLY the type of thing that would cause nationalistic conservatives to froth in the mouth.

Western players also just don't want to drag any of this ugly nationalistic BS into what is, really, a fun game.

Originally Posted by Ithekro

So basically the Wo-class are Yorktown, Enterprise, and Hornet?

Nope, the Enterprise is explicitly the Aircraft Carrier Hime. The Yorktown is the new Aircraft Carrier Demon.

[Lantern]

On a different note, I'm loving the BGMs this time around.

The MI/E6 boss theme sounded like a remix of 'Hiryuu's counterattack' and the Iron Bottom Sound final boss theme.

If I'm not wrong on this, these are the lyrics people figured out on niconico:



（沈め　沈め　沈め　　沈め沈め）

（沈めしまえ　沈めしまえ　沈めしまえ）

（沈め　沈め）

毀れ　堕ちて　剥がれ　堕ちて
冷たき　深海へ
深く　深く　海の底へ
沈め　沈め

毀れ　堕ちて　剥がれ　堕ちて
冷たき　深海へ
沈めなさい
友に共に　誇りと共に

（沈めしまえ　沈めしまえ　沈めしまえ）


Anyway. That abyssal grudge. Echoes of "Sink! Sink! Sink!" You know they are for real this time (when they attack your HQ in E6)

[Estavali]

For anyone interested, someone wrote the bosses' lines down in ptt: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/KanColle/M.1407681591.A.258.html

Green words are the Nihongo->Chinese translation found at the linked page. Irresponsible translations to English by me, hope I got them right

Spoiler for Boss quotes:

北方棲姬 (note: Northern Loli)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24194508

来ないでって...言ってるの
沈んで！
ゼロ．．．置いてけ
いつか．．．楽しい海で．．．いつか！
烈風．．．置いてけ
帰れ！
調子に．．．乗るな！

翻譯：
就叫你……別過來！
沈船吧！
把零戰……留下來
有一天……要在快樂的海上……有一天
把烈風……留下來
滾回去！
別得意忘形！

"Like I said... Stop coming already!"
"Sink!"
"Leave behind... [the] Zero...."
"One day.... On a cheerful sea... one day!"
"Leave behind... [the] Reppu..."
"Go back!"
"Don't you... get too cocky!"

中間棲姬 (note: Midway Princess)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24194543

のこのこと...また来たのか
ふふ．．．捕えているわ
誘爆して、沈んでいけ
そんな．．．私が．．．墜ちると、いうの？
それこそ、慢心ね
馬鹿め！何度でも、沈んでいけ

翻譯：
不知好歹地……又來了嗎
呵呵……抓到你了
誘爆沈船吧
怎麼會……我居然會……沉沒嗎？
這就叫做，大意呢
蠢材！不管幾次，都給我沉下去！

"Isolent... So you've come again(?)"
"Fufu... Got you now"
"Explode, [and] sink" *note: the term 誘爆 means induced explosion. Sounds familiar?*
"How [could this be].... Will I.... be defeated?" *note: 墜ちる can mean a number of things: fall, sink, defeated*
"This is truly, conceit."
"Fool! No matter how many times, sink!"

空母棲鬼 (note: Aircraft Carrier Demon)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24194565

何度でも．．．何度でも．．．沈んでいけ
敵機直上、急降下！
勝ったと、思っているのか、可愛いな
何度でも、繰り返す、変わらない限り

翻譯：
不管幾次……不管幾次……都沉下去吧
正上方敵機，高速降下！
你以為贏了嗎，真可愛啊
不管幾次，都會重來的，只要沒有改變

"No matter how many times.... No matter how many times.... sink"
"Enemy planes above, descending swiftly!"
"Victory, so you thought. How adorable"
"No matter how many times, [this will be] repeated, so as long nothing has been changed"

空母棲姬 (note: Aircraft Carrier Princess)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24194612

火の塊となって、沈んでしまえ
索敵を疎かにするからだ、沈め！
墜ちろ！
静か．．．気持ちいい
そうか．．．だから私は．．．

翻譯：
化作火球沉沒吧！
這就是因為你忽視索敵，沉沒吧！
下去吧！
好安靜……好舒服……
這樣啊……所以我……

"Turn into a ball of flames and sink!"
"This is because you've neglected scouting, [now] sink!"
"Sink!"
"How quiet.... How pleasant"
"I see.... That's why I..."

Folks at the ptt link believe that Midway is Akagi and the Aircraft Carrier Princess is Kaga. Why they would have American planes is anyone's guess, but I guess the power behind them believes in equipping his ladies as well as it could.

[Wiic]

@Myssa :

i don't remember seeing any canon source flaging the new bosses as US carrier, nor the new aircraft being USN planes. I know this is on the wiki(s), but that's all I can found as a source - and this is not cannon.

[Lantern]

Originally Posted by Wiic

@Myssa :

i don't remember seeing any canon source flaging the new bosses as US carrier, nor the new aircraft being USN planes. I know this is on the wiki(s), but that's all I can found as a source - and this is not cannon.

Not that I'm saying it canon, but I'm just gonna point out some fun facts

E3 Boss fleet name: Task Force (Group Y)



E4 node D encounter fleet name: Task Force (Group E)
E4 node E encounter fleet name: Task Force (Group Y)
E4 node J encounter fleet name: Task Force (Group H)

Enterprise, Yorktown, Hornet?

[panzerfan]

... I wonder if I can turn my whole fleet abyss by handing them pom-poms, Bofers, 16"/50 caliber Mark VII guns and Hellcats?

[Wiic]

Originally Posted by Lantern

Not that I'm saying it canon, but I'm just gonna point out some fun facts

E3 Boss fleet name: Task Force (Group Y)



E4 node D encounter fleet name: Task Force (Group E)
E4 node E encounter fleet name: Task Force (Group Y)
E4 node J encounter fleet name: Task Force (Group H)

Enterprise, Yorktown, Hornet?

yeah, that's the only acceptable USN hint to me. To be honest, the USN plane names seems to me like something a wiki contributor pulled out of his poop hole.

[Academus]

E1 cleared

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Net expense: 4095 fuel, 5036 ammo, 813 steel & 19 buckets
Fleet sparkled with enroute support
Double line => Echelon => Double line => Line ahead

Spoiler for Equipment list:

Suzuya - 20.3cm #3, 20.3cm, type 98 night recon, type 32 surface radar
Hiei - 46cm, 46cm, type 0 recon, type 33 surface radar
Kirishima - ditto
Kiso Kai 2 - midget sub, type 3 sonar, star shell
Hiyou - Reppuu, Ryuusei Kai, Reppuu, Saiun
Junyou - Reppuu Kai, Ryuusei Kai, Reppuu, Saiun

Spoiler for Attempts & Drop:

1. night battle S drop RJ
2. day battle S drop RJ
3. day battle S drop Myoukou
4. day battle S drop Ashigara
5. point A retreat: Suzuya damaged by SS
6. day battle S drop I-8
7. day battle S drop Fuso

In hindsight I should replace Hiei and Kirishima with my lv 50 Ise class BBVs .

[panzerfan]

Congrats. Just remember not to sortie your BBs for E2!

[Lantern]

Originally Posted by Wiic

yeah, that's the only acceptable USN hint to me. To be honest, the USN plane names seems to me like something a wiki contributor pulled out of his poop hole.

Wait, you mean the abyssal equipments?
Those are their actual names in the game data.

- 深海猫艦戦　Abyssal Cat Fighters
- 深海地獄艦攻　Abyssal Hell Torpedo Bombers
- 深海復譽艦爆　Abyssal Avenger Dive Bomders

Seems blatant enough if you ask me.