Code Geass - Spoilers & Speculation (take 3)

[rpgman1]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

That's what I'm saying!!

As for Diethard, I'll keep an eye on him, I'm not expecting much at the same time though, but I'll keep such possibilities in mind

That would be a shock since Lelouch did look at Diethard for a moment. It would be no different than Guilford who was geassed by Lelouch.

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Originally Posted by rpgman1

That would be a shock since Lelouch did look at Diethard for a moment. It would be no different than Guilford who was geassed by Lelouch.

Lelouch, "If I make this impression *Puts his hand on his mouth*, you will see me as your almighty Zero."

Diethardt, "ZERO!"

[rpgman1]

Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

Lelouch, "If I make this impression *Puts his hand on his mouth*, you will see me as your almighty Zero."

Diethardt, "ZERO!"

Maybe if Lelouch put his pinky near his mouth and do a Dr. Evil inpersonation, then Diethard would believe that he is Zero

[strategos]

Hmmm, I got a feeling we might see another Lelouch + Black Knight team up ^_^.

[gabbytay]

Originally Posted by strategos

Hmmm, I got a feeling we might see another Lelouch + Black Knight team up ^_^.

I'm just hoping for a stray nuke to destroy that possibility

[pingva]

Originally Posted by gabbytay

I'm just hoping for a stray nuke to destroy that possibility

Li will save them. He is Lelouch+Suzaku.

[gabbytay]

Originally Posted by pingva

Li will save them. He is Lelouch+Suzaku.

right if he was fighting lelouch right now they'd all be dead.

[rpgman1]

Originally Posted by gabbytay

I'm just hoping for a stray nuke to destroy that possibility

That would probably end up being true anyway as FLEIA is headed in the direction of the BK and Lelouch's forces with the possibility of harming the representatives.

[eaglei3]

Originally Posted by rpgman1

That would probably end up being true anyway as FLEIA is headed in the direction of the BK and Lelouch's forces with the possibility of harming the representatives.

You know, Schneizel talks about how either he or Lelouch can't win if they can't continue to wear their mask at the end of 23. I wonder if this is hinting that in 24 he drops his mask too soon and turns the BK against him by firing Fleia at Lelouch, the representatives, and BK in the area thinking he has already won?

[strategos]

Maybe, C.C. will show to everyone in the battlefield, the truth about Lelouch. Using some strange powers!

[pingva]

Originally Posted by eaglei3

You know, Schneizel talks about how either he or Lelouch can't win if they can't continue to wear their mask at the end of 23. I wonder if this is hinting that in 24 he drops his mask too soon and turns the BK against him by firing Fleia at Lelouch, the representatives, and BK in the area thinking he has already won?

Bravo! The most likely scenario.

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by eaglei3

You know, Schneizel talks about how either he or Lelouch can't win if they can't continue to wear their mask at the end of 23. I wonder if this is hinting that in 24 he drops his mask too soon and turns the BK against him by firing Fleia at Lelouch, the representatives, and BK in the area thinking he has already won?

Only for Nina's super-duper FLIEA canceller to render it and all his other pink spheres of doom useless. Then Lelouch trolls him with Diethards recording.


Lelouch really is quite brilliant, he used the meeting with the UFN and capture of the representives to mask his real reason for going their, namely capturing table-humper-chan to build some super doomsday weapon or more likely an anti FLEIA device. I wonder if shit face knows he has Nina?

[gabbytay]

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

Only for Nina's super-duper FLIEA canceller to render it and all his other pink spheres of doom useless. Then Lelouch trolls him with Diethards recording.


Lelouch really is quite brilliant, he used the meeting with the UFN and capture of the representives to mask his real reason for going their, namely capturing table-humper-chan to build some super doomsday weapon or more likely an anti FLEIA device. I wonder if shit face knows he has Nina?

Named FLEIA CANCELER

[bladeofdarkness]

its so funny how todou comments that geassed soldiers are a pathetic sight when a few eps ago the were wondering if they were the same way

[gabbytay]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

its so funny how todou comments that geassed soldiers are a pathetic sight when a few eps ago the were wondering if they were the same way

Wait till suzaku kicks his ass with hyper geass activated that would be very ironic

[killbethy]

Is it just me or did it look like Tamaki mouthed "Zero" with a smile during the extended preview? Speaking of smiles, we finally see C.C. smile in the preview... I have a few theories has to what is going on there.

I don't think there is any solid evidence that Nina is building a FLEIA Canceller... we just know that she is working on "something". For all we know, it could be completely unrelated to FLEIA (although it is unlikely, considering her only option for repetance for making FLEIA is to fully side with Lelouch). I was somewhat considering the possibility of her actually making something that will "undo" the effects of the FLEIA.

Reasons:
1. It's been stated twice now by both Nina and Schneizel that FLEIA makes things "disappear."
2. Zero (and Lelouch) are both known as someone who can create "miracles" (although this is through advanced strategy, just like igniting the sakuradite in 24)
3. Lelouch WANTS Schneizel to use the FLEIA

Imagine the possibilities for Lelouch in tearing down Schneizel's mask if he allows Schneizel to FLEIA the crap out of everything, and then Nina's device actually reverses the effects of FLEIA by bringing back what has been destroyed. If that happens, EVERYONE would side with Lelouch and it would be game over for Schneizel, leaving him to hole up in Damocles and defend it to the best of his abilities (probably with only Anya siding with him... since it was mentioned that her memories were reconstructed, but we aren't sure exactly "how" they were reconstructed). But still, to take out Damocles (including Nunnally), Lelouch would have to use something other than a FLEIA as well. Therefore both leaving Suzaku and Lelouch without the things they care about most (Nunnally and Euphie), since neither were killed by FLEIA, they can't be brought back.

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Sidenote: My internet was broken for the past 16 hours and I missed quite a bit of the discussion in the thread. Anything important worth noting?

[pingva]

Originally Posted by Eliarine

In all honesty, I really don't see Lelouch using such a strong word as "aishiteru" with anyone right now (...other than Nunally but...yeah). And before someone asks, no, not even with C.C. So I'm really wondering in what context Kallen's gum line will appear.

I don't see it too. Because it's code geass and the most important relatioships are among siblings, I think Kallen's gum line is : Just don't tell me you love Nunnally, I won't forgive you. Nunnally is the most important person for Lelouch and she is also the reason why Lelouch has started his fight. So Kallen's gum line is talking about Lelouch's reason of the fight. Kallen is angry, because she doesn't understand what Lelouch is doing and this gum line perfectlly shows that. She thinks Lelouch is doing it not for the Nunnally's sake(dream).

So yes Kallen's gum line is said to Lelouch.

Thank you Eliarine that you reminded me about "aishiteru" ( this word Lelouch uses only for Nunnally).
I think I'm right.

[SonOfHeaven]

Anyone could tell what is the point of Gino? All he seems to be just a nice guy in general. You know with Suzaku, Nunnally being mistreated by her advisor(forgot her name) and with Kallen as well. Now he is going against Britannia and he seems fine with all the FREIYA going around. I thought he was against Schneizel about going after the emperor by using Suzaku and FREIYA too. I just don't get his character.

[Baixinho]

Originally Posted by youngde

As much as would love to see this, I think at best it's more likely that Kallen would say her gum line, and Lelouch would say something smug like "Well then, I guess you won't forgive me." or "I never asked for you forgiveness." or the like.

Yeah that was pretty much what I had in mind when I thought about love declaration. I can't really see lelouch uing the word "love" in an actual line, unless it is directed to his sister
But a badass line like "I don't want your forgiveness" or "It can't be helped then, I shall never be forgiven" would make it absolutely awesome in my eyes.

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

Spoiler for Saving space:

my take on this
in the preview we see
a)kallen on the avalon ready to kill lulu
b)the lancelot in the sky shooting
c)lulu and C.C talking in the avalon's hanger
d)lelouch sitting on a chair while looking pissed off
e)a huge friya blast taking out many of lulu's units on rader

we also know that suzaku and kallen would fight this ep since the summeries say so
and we know that nina is working on a friya related thing
since she mentioned a limiter in ep 23 im guessing its a device meant to prevent friya bombs from reaching critical mass and exploding

here is my spec of things that happen

the device nina is building is meant to be instelled on the shinkiro to allow lulu to lead his troops against the democles while preventing them from getting nuked
he keeps using his troops to block friya's aimed at him while wating for nina to finish and have the device installed on the shinkiro (scene d and e)

after its installed he and C.C go to the hanger to get ready and leave to attack the democles
they meanwhile talk about things and this is where we see scene c

while lulu is getting ready to go kallen breaks in and we have scene a
she and lelouch talk for a little while when she has him at claw point (she cant bring herself to kill him,even if she didnt love him there is no way kallen kills an unarmed man with her knightmare in a manner that only fits people like luciano) and she asks what he is doing, he starts telling her some of the facts (maybe even telling her what she really means to him) and she may end up asking him why he didnt ask her to help him (if the plan really is to destroy shnizel and himself then he'll tell her that,possibly resulting in the gum line)
but here is the importent thing
the guren is standing right between lelouch and the shinkiro
and with the lancelot outside (no way would they have the final battle indoors when you have such a nice smoke filled sky scene b) C.C steps in and not so much saves him from kallen as gets kallen out of the way for him to get to the shinkiro
since there is no way in hell C.C can force kallen to move using KMF combat (the lancelot has no hope even if its was suzaku piloting it) and if they fight for any length of time lulu would not reach the shinkiro (he'll be in danger of being crashed)
im guessing C.C does the only thing she can do in order to keep kallen there and thats to use a mental attack (like the one she used on suzaku and anya)
she tells lulu to go possibly using her gum line and tells him that she'll keep kallen there (both to keep her from stopping his plan, and to keep her safe)
lulu goes and C.C stays with kallen and the two start talking in the world of C (or what ever you call her mind world) kallen questions what is going on and why C.C wont stop him
after a while she may convince C.C to help her stop him
C.C lets her go and they both set out to stop lulu
meanwhile suzaku and lelouch are on the way to the democles but since they found out the guren is back in teh battle field (and since its much faster then the shinkiro suzaku stays behind telling lulu to go and finish what they started while he keeps kallen from interfering with the plan
kallen stays to fight suzaku while C.C goes on to the democles

and then you have a strange situation where both suzaku AND kallen are on lulu's side but while suzaku is fighting to protect lulus plan kallen is fighting to defend lulu from it
lulu's sword and shield (no matter how you look at it,kallen is lulu's shield) fighting each other and both for lulu

in the fight between them there is one factor that we have all always assumed will grant suzaku the victory and that is the LIVE geass command
but while the LIVE command helps him win in battle
its not what its ment to do
its to make him live no matter what, and if this fight takes place after kallen learns the truth about the plan then i dont think she would be trying to kill him anymore
she would be trying to get him to pull his head out of his ass and help her save lulu's and his own lives
its possible that when the command triggers (which we know it will) then rather then making him kill kallen
it could end up making him give up the fight (drop his weapons,end the fight) since by letting the plan continue means death for both him and lelouch
its a long shot but the battle has to turn against shnizel at some point and they both have to be part of it

the reason i think this script is likely is that
a)they always try to fuck us with the preview
si having kallen threaten lulu in the same ep where we know she and suzaku are fighting one another is a good way to hide the fact that she is fighting him to defend lulu and not attack him
b)kallen is the only main character not yet in on the plan and there is no way in hell that she hears about shnizel's plan on the radio like a mook
c)we need a use for all the character development she had all season (the talks with nunnaly, the picture book)
d)kallen has to do something that makes her bond with lelouch as importent as its cracked up to be

i am also posting this on the kallen thread but i think this might fit better here

Well, this is quite likely to happen, and quite logical. So, by Code Geass's logic, it will not happen

[El_Negro]

Originally Posted by SonOfHeaven

Anyone could tell what is the point of Gino? All he seems to be just a nice guy in general. You know with Suzaku, Nunnally being mistreated by her advisor(forgot her name) and with Kallen as well. Now he is going against Britannia and he seems fine with all the FREIYA going around. I thought he was against Schneizel about going after the emperor by using Suzaku and FREIYA too. I just don't get his character.

Don't worry our Suzaku with wipe his character off the pages (That's at least what I'm hoping 4 )