Ore no Imouto - Light Novel & Manga Discussion Thread

[Densetsuhakai]

Originally Posted by Wilshere

Dont think anyone of them want to lose each other to any other person after getting to ''good'' terms with each other,plus they have endless love for each other,and if you think they will continue doing small illicit actions like kissing i dont see that last forever,one day they will reach their limits and finally share their feelings.

Yeah, I think so too.They will never let it happen that one of them gets another boyfriend/girlfriend.This means that both of them going to die alone or they get together after all.For Kyousuke it is Kirino or no one and for Kirino it is Kyousuke or no one.And just like you stated, I think that they will not stop with their illicit actions (they will go further).I mean they are humans after all and humans are always horny.

[ArturEngel]

Originally Posted by Densetsuhakai

Yeah, I think so too.They will never let it happen that one of them gets another boyfriend/girlfriend.This means that both of them going to die alone or they get together after all.For Kyousuke it is Kirino or no one and for Kirino it is Kyousuke or no one.And just like you stated, I think that they will not stop with their illicit actions (they will go further).I mean they are humans after all and humans are always horny.

I think Kirino would be fine with a BF, who has a cute little imouto

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by Densetsuhakai

Yeah, I think so too.They will never let it happen that one of them gets another boyfriend/girlfriend.This means that both of them going to die alone or they get together after all.For Kyousuke it is Kirino or no one and for Kirino it is Kyousuke or no one.And just like you stated, I think that they will not stop with their illicit actions (they will go further).I mean they are humans after all and humans are always horny.

I think a better title than ''incest'' for this series is ''pure love'', they just love each other and I dont think there is much lust just LOVE but of course it will lead to further actions which they are ok with as long as they are both together.
Kirino<3 Kyousuke
Kyousuke<3 Kirino
Best couple ever I must say

[Densetsuhakai]

Originally Posted by Wilshere

I think a better title than ''incest'' for this series is ''pure love'', they just love each other and I dont think there is much lust just LOVE but of course it will lead to further actions which they are ok with as long as they are both together.
Kirino<3 Kyousuke
Kyousuke<3 Kirino
Best couple ever I must say

Well,especially Kyousuke want to go further at some point.I mean he is a first rate Hentai and thinks since the first volume that Kirino is hot/cute.And Kirino plays eroge,so...

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by Densetsuhakai

Well,especially Kyousuke want to go further at some point.I mean he is a first rate Hentai and thinks since the first volume that Kirino is hot/cute.And Kirino plays eroge,so...

I think you must be specific ''Imouto eroge'' where the Imouto loves her brother greatly,anyway they are the cutest couple ever,they just suit each other,they also synchronize lol

[bakAnki]

As much as I love Ayase, I'm quite satisfied with the ending (ie. she is rejected) because I don't hope that high for her end in the first place.

My only objections are the 'rape Kyousuke' stuff and the rejection part. Sure the 'rape Kyousuke' part is hilarious, but it was so out-of-character for Ayase. I could understand if it happens on the second PSP game where she wants to be more assertive and bold to get rid of her insecurities on her relationship with Kyousuke (or maybe if she was asked him to strip just for his shirt like on Ntype's doujin XD), but the canonverse version of her forcing Kyousuke to strip just so she could wash his underpants, that's just dumb even if the reason was because Kirino told her to take care of him, as serious as she is to do her job.

While for the rejection, my disappointment is it doesn't have illustration. That was the closure for Ayase, so isn't it right to give illustration for that? Now I just hope the anime will have this part so I can have proper visualization

Thanks SigUp for your effort of the quick translation

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

But that aside, I think the general idea is to get people to play the PS3 game (and the PSP games) to get the ending they want.

I'm confused about the concept of the Happy End game. It's "produce your (imouto) idol" concept sounds like they don't have any story to balance the game play that lead to proper 'if'/alternate conclusion of the LN counterpart.

Plus, since we control Kyousuke whom now is the manager, isn't that means if this does end with Kyousuke in relationship with girl we chose (under assumption we choose the girl from the beginning), wouldn't that make the girl's fans (in that fictional in-game SNS board) rage because their idol is NTR-ed by her manager?

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by bakAnki

I'm confused about the concept of the Happy End game. It's "produce your (imouto) idol" concept sounds like they don't have any story to balance the game play that lead to proper 'if'/alternate conclusion of the LN counterpart.

I think it will be a blend of story and game elements, where you'll have to clear certain requirements in the game to advance the story, and if you play your cards right, you'll get to the end.

Originally Posted by bakAnki

Plus, since we control Kyousuke whom now is the manager, isn't that means if this does end with Kyousuke in relationship with girl we chose (under assumption we choose the girl from the beginning), wouldn't that make the girl's fans (in that fictional in-game SNS board) rage because their idol is NTR-ed by her manager?

Sounds like a secret between the two of them, and a good reason for some more "life consultation"!

[bakAnki]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

I think it will be a blend of story and game elements, where you'll have to clear certain requirements in the game to advance the story, and if you play your cards right, you'll get to the end.

I know. It's more or less an If-universe like Ore no Imouto Maker EX bonus game from original PSP game. But my point is the whole game, so far at least, looks like it doesn't have anything to do with the last novel, plot-wise.

With the current concept and info from HD game it's more like they betray the fans. Rather than making another visual novel that take place at some point of recent novel so fans can choose alternate take of the ending, like the concept of Portable PSP game series, they make a spin off-y, idol raising game instead. I think most fans would rather to get another visual novel game, even if it resets the story PSP game had.

Looks like the "Happy End" title doesn't refer to "(true/serious) happy end you can choose different than the canon novel" after all, but a sub-title they made up just to underline it's a hi-def (HD) Oreimo game, happy-go-lucky end

Ah btw I understand if you move this post to the game thread if it's more appropriate there.

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Sounds like a secret between the two of them, and a good reason for some more "life consultation"!

LOL XDD

[Kakurin]

Part 4 Chapter 3:

Spoiler for Part 4 Chapter 3:

- Thus the next day. As agreed upon, me and Kuroneko went out early in the day to buy a swimsuit.
- How to put it, as it's the first time buying a swimsuit together with a girlfriend I'm quite nervous.
- The previous evening I browsed through all the old magazines in which Kirino appeared. I intended to do it as a reasearch----- but these magazines were indeed not suitable, the swimsuits were all too daring. If I'm pressed, you would say that perhaps the blue one Ayase wore on a title page would be suitable for Kuroneko. But that was also a bikini. Even though this was what I thought, following happened when I was standing in the shop
- "... even though you said no bikinis, you are staying in the bikini area the entire time."
- Ah, I made my girlfriend angry.
- "Sorry, sorry, indeed we came here to buy a one-pieced swimsuit."
- ".... it was also said yesterday to leave it all to senpai."
- "Are you sure? Don't you have anything you like yourself?"
- "........ huh, it seems you understand nothing. Huh, that's why humans..."
- Kuroneko stopped and shrugged. With her a little bit acting like this, I fondly remembered the first time meeting her. This was one of her most beautiful expressions.
- Then-----
- "..... it's a swimsuit I wear for you, so of course it has to be according to your likes... please don't force me to say it out lout."
- "What, what if it's in contrast to what you like (?).... my, my tastes are also not that good."
- I was a little bit too embarrassed, so in order to hide my emotions, I sped to the one-pieced swimsuits.
- Then I pointed towards a couple of swimsuits.
- "How about this one?"
- "This one?"
- "Yes"
- ".......... If I'm not under a spell, then there are only school swimsuits."
- "No, I just think that this one will definitely suit you."
- I mean, this really, really is fitting. Is there another swimsuit in the world that suits Kuroneko better?
- "Sen~ pai~? ..... If you don't want to be cursed, then please choose seriously."
- Oh, oh.... she's angry, she's angry.
- "Ah, ok, sorry."
- "Honestly... I already have a school swimsuit. What sense does it make to come here and buy another."
- "I'm really sorry. I will earnestly look for one. How... how about this one?"
- The next one I chose was a pink one-pieced swimsuit with skirt-like edges.
- "What do you think? Even though it looks a little bit childish-----"
- Hm? While talking and talking I suddenly noticed that Kuroneko was staring at this swimsuit the entire time.
- ".... it, it really is an acceptable swimsuit..... your tastes are not bad, senpai."
- Really! Is the really okay! Unexpected... probably.
- Looking at those frilly skirt-like edges, it is rather similar to the clothes she normally wears.
- "Then... let's take this?"
- "Okay, this one it is."
- It really was chosen as simply as this.
- Holding the swimsuit Kuroneko proceeded to take out the money and bought it herself, really a girlfriend who wouldn't let me treat her to anything.
- This girl is very serious when it comes to that matter.

- After buying the swimsuit we directly went to the public pool.
- For the purpose of Kuroneko being able to swim before Hinata-chan and Tamaki-chan arrive.
- We split up in front of the dressing room, then I putted on the swimming trunks she chose for me and headed out.
- "Ku... hot!"
- This very clear day is absolutely a good day for swimming. I did some warm-up exercises next to the pool and carefully stretched myself.
- "......... sorry for the wait"
- Wearing the swimsuit I just chose for her, my girlfriend arrived.
- ".....ah"
- Compared to that goth-loli bikini the revealed parts of the body greatly decreased, but nevertheless my heart started to pound.
- It pounded even stronger than yesterday, perhaps because she was wearing the swimsuit I selected.
- "Ha... this, looks good."
- "Really?.... So happy to hear that."
- Kuroneko replied me in such a timid voice that I couldn't resist patting her on the head.
- Perhaps I hadn't been aware of that, or even thought entirely different.
- ...... that I actually like those type of girls that are younger than me.
- "Good, then ---- before starting the swimming exercises, let's warm up first."
- "Okay, understood, senpai."
- "Don't say okay, say 'Yes, Teacher'."
- I spoke it while doing a kind of pose. She frowned a second, then smiled and said
- "Yes, teacher ---- please take care of me."
- "............. uh."
- After a couple of minutes ---- I discovered something new about my girlfriend.
- Right then we were standing face to face in the pool, with the waterline reaching to the chest.
- "Kuroneko.... you"
- "..... wha, what."
- "Are you.... an idiot when it comes to sports?"
- "............................."
- Apparently hurt by the comment, Kuroneko silentely turned sidewards.
- Since looking at her whilst preparing ----- no, since I secretly watched her in the sports classes I already began to feel that way.
- "First, your body is too rigid."
- During the stretching exercises, she struggled and struggled, but was not able to touch the ground. When I wanted to help her by pushing her back down, she suddenly let out a H-sound. Really couldn't help it... That's not right! How can you make this kind of sound in a public bath---- honestly.
- "..... I'm really sorry. But I belong to the stay-inside-faction."
- "Even if it's like that... you still are a young person."
- Manami's body is also rigid as hell. As she is a grandma she makes 'oh, yoi, yoi .... oh, yoi, yoi..' kind of sounds when I'm helping her.
- "Furthermore, you are too afraid of the water."
- Even if one drop of water gets on her face, she starts to wipe around like crazy, when her feet touch the surface of the water she starts shouting like 'eh~ eh~', this absolutely is not okay.
- How can you take your sisters to the beach when like that? The reputation as an onee-san would be completely blown away.
- I don't really understand what those overly water-fearing people are thinking. They obviously have no problem bathing in the tub.
-"Why do you fear it like that? Did you nearly drown in the past?
- "... huh... that's the scar of a battle with a demon in the Agean.... a long long time ago."
- "Don't try to go around it using some kind of strange lines."
- "My, my preexistence was able to swim, really!"
- That was the first time I heard such a time-jumping excuse.
- "Mah... at this point we only can continue to work."
- Even though it looks like it will end up in a failure, let's see how far we get.
- First it's... moving the legs in the water. No... before that one first has to learn how to breathe while in the water.
- After an hour of training, Kuroneko was finally able to kick her legs in the water, while I held her. Although it is far from having 'learnt how to swim', a result is a result after all.
- "Puah!" Kuroneko raised her head out of the water. Then she shook her head, spraying the water all over the place, just like a cat.
- "Good. About time to rest, shall we get something to eat?"
- "You're right... Hah, I just can't do it."
- "Don't worry. You have made some progress."
- ".... but still... compared to what was promised to Hinata and Tamaki..."
- "It will indeed be tough to catch up to that."
- "In this case..."
- Kuroneko is probably intending to refuse going to the pool with her sisters before she is able to swim.
- "Even in this case it's still meaningful. At least the current Kuroneko can save Tamaki-chan when she falls over in the children's pool, right?"
- Before, Kuroneko wasn't able to do even this much.... Therefore the lessons did have their worth.
- "Besides, I'm also here."
- "... don't, don't say those cool-sounding words, senpai."
- "That is only natural, right. As a boyfriend... you have to act cool in front of your girlfriend!"
- "Is that so. Then, I'll also do something a girlfriend would do."
- Splash. Kuroneko rose from the pool and made a pleased face.
- "I've made bentos."

- We left the pool area, went outside, sat on a long park bench and started to eat these bentos.
- Kuroneko's outfit today was also the 'holy angel Kamineko'. So of course she drew the sights of the people around. My heart at this point was already more than able to withstand those piercing gazes, while I was walking besides my girlfriend on a date. I really did grow stronger.
- Like during the first date, inside the basket were sandwiches.
- "Lately you seldomly make rice balls anymore."
- "Eh heh. That's because even though you usually are of the Japanese-style-food-faction, when it comes to bento you are of the Western-style-faction."
- "Ah, when you put it like that it certainly sounds true."
- Quite surprising, even I myself hadn't realized that.
- I bit off a part of that little sandwich.
- "Mhm! Tastes great ---- sandwich with jam?"
- "Yes. This one is with chocolate, this one with lettuce and that one with egg. All in all, it's great if the tastes can satisfy you."
- "Mhmhm, very satisfied."
- "I see.. if you have some requests, feel free to ask them."
- "Nothing right now."
- I was virtually too satisfied and had no other wishes.
- "When thinking hard about it..... probably a little bit of meat."
- "Meat..."
- "Yes, yes. In case of sandwiches, like with tuna, pork, ham, or something like that."
- "I see."
- "And speaking of sandwiches, it would be great, if they were slightly bigger, don't cut them this small."
- "What 'thinking hard about it', these are a lot of requests."
- "It was you who said I shouldn't hesitate."
- "Yes, yes, these opinions help. Honestly, if you have a boyfriend with requirements when it comes to food it really is bothersome. Then, take this."
- Kuroneko handed me a tiny sandwich.
- "Eh? What's that?"
- ".........Ah......"
- "What are you saying?"
- Her voice was too small to understand her.
- Having said that, Kuroneko's face turned red and her finger tips also began to shake----
- "....Ah~~~~ please open your mouth."
- "You, you cut those sandwiches to this size for this reason!"
- "That's one part of the event... come, give it up."
- It, it's embarrassing as hell... are you intending to kill me?
- "Honestly--- Eh, eh, eh, no way around it. ---- I just have to open it!"
- ".... huh... that's more like senpai. Good, I'm coming.... ah~~~~~"
- "Ah~~~~~ ---- ku, really embarrassing this is."
- "Huhu... shall we repeat it? Good, ah~~~~~"
- "You, you come again!"
- Kuroneko always seems to be happy when it comes to eating. Surely I am the same.
- Then------

- After eliminating the delicious bentos we returned to the pool-------- Although I really do want to write this, in reality it wasn't so.
- When we had packed up and were about to leave
- "You, you, wait right there."
- The holy angel Kamineko was questioned by a police patrol.
- Eh, me and Kuroneko were confounded and could do nothing else than just wait there in confusion.
- "Eh?"
- "Do you mean us?"
- We answered similarly like this. Then were were asked something close to "Yes, correct. Are you students? Which school? Can you take a minute and answer our questions?" Well, something like this. Because it's summer vacations it's probably hard to distinguish students.
- "Hah"
- "............"
- I had the feeling that Kuroneko was not feeling well facing this police patrol, standing there silently, so it was mostly me who did the answering.
- The first time going to a date at the pool.
- Then, questioned by the police for the first time.
- The police patrol smiled in a subtle way (eyes were not smiling) and asked
- "Do you have your ID's with you?"
- "Ah ~ I do. A school ID." I looked at Kuroneko and asked "You also have yours with you, right?" But Kuroneko only shook her head.
- "It seems that only I have one."
- "No problem, let me have a look."
- The policeman who took my school ID nodded with a mmhm~ mmhm~and looked at it for a while.
- "Kousaka Kyousuke-kun... mmhm, sorry. Lately the residents here say that strange people have appeared, it's only due to caution that we've called you out. We won't bother you for long."
- "Strange people? Ha~ ha~ ha"
- No matter how you look at it, we don't seem like strange people, do we. What's this policeman doing~
- Right Kuroneko? I used the moment to glance over at my girlfriend.
- ".... hu, hu... really.... really impolite." (note, this part also could mean something like 'sorry' in Chinese, but I still went with something like this)
- A strange person!
- Ah~ I see. Because of the presence of the holy angel here, the police patrol noticed us, so I took up my courage and tried to explain.
- "Ahm.... This~"
- Cold sweat ran down my body, as I once again turned to the policeman.
- "Is that your girlfriend? This outfit is really incredible."
- "Hahahahahahaha"
- I could only pass this through laughing like an idiot!
- "This, ahm, you see.... do you know cosplay?"
- "Ah~ yes, I know, I know."
- I could only point the policeman towards this direction. Just when I was about to do this, an unexpected rebuttal came forward.
- "Cosplay? Huh, that's absolutely not the case. This is a 'holy angel outfit'."
- "What's a holy angel outfit?"
- Don't ask me!
- "This~ This, is the name of the outfit she's wearing..."
- What is this for a questioning, that's too agonizing!
- "Your girlfriend, why is she also wearing wings?"
- How should I know! When I wanted to reply 'isn't it part of an angel~'
- "..... Kukuku.... as you are asking so sincerely, then let me mercifully enlighten you... that's the result of the 'conversion' from the darkness into the light... to put it in other words, these are wings of love. But this is only an illusion. In reality they are far bigger than that...."
- "Say, your girlfriend doesn't have any problems, does she?
- I was on the verge of dying.
- "Well then, can I have a look at your bag?"
- "Yes....."
- Time passed so slowly, as I was questioned by the police for the first time in my life.

[seangel92]

I saw Kirino and Kuroneko naked in the PS3 Game "Happy End".

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Part 4 Chapter 3:

Spoiler for Part 4 Chapter 3:

- Thus the next day. As agreed upon, me and Kuroneko went out early in the day to buy a swimsuit.
- How to put it, as it's the first time buying a swimsuit together with a girlfriend I'm quite nervous.
- The previous evening I browsed through all the old magazines in which Kirino appeared. I intended to do it as a reasearch----- but these magazines were indeed not suitable, the swimsuits were all too daring. If I'm pressed, you would say that perhaps the blue one Ayase wore on a title page would be suitable for Kuroneko. But that was also a bikini. Even though this was what I thought, following happened when I was standing in the shop
- "... even though you said no bikinis, you are staying in the bikini area the entire time."
- Ah, I made my girlfriend angry.
- "Sorry, sorry, indeed we came here to buy a one-pieced swimsuit."
- ".... it was also said yesterday to leave it all to senpai."
- "Are you sure? Don't you have anything you like yourself?"
- "........ huh, it seems you understand nothing. Huh, that's why humans..."
- Kuroneko stopped and shrugged. With her a little bit acting like this, I fondly remembered the first time meeting her. This was one of her most beautiful expressions.
- Then-----
- "..... it's a swimsuit I wear for you, so of course it has to be according to your likes... please don't force me to say it out lout."
- "What, what if it's in contrast to what you like (?).... my, my tastes are also not that good."
- I was a little bit too embarrassed, so in order to hide my emotions, I sped to the one-pieced swimsuits.
- Then I pointed towards a couple of swimsuits.
- "How about this one?"
- "This one?"
- "Yes"
- ".......... If I'm not under a spell, then there are only school swimsuits."
- "No, I just think that this one will definitely suit you."
- I mean, this really, really is fitting. Is there another swimsuit in the world that suits Kuroneko better?
- "Sen~ pai~? ..... If you don't want to be cursed, then please choose seriously."
- Oh, oh.... she's angry, she's angry.
- "Ah, ok, sorry."
- "Honestly... I already have a school swimsuit. What sense does it make to come here and buy another."
- "I'm really sorry. I will earnestly look for one. How... how about this one?"
- The next one I chose was a pink one-pieced swimsuit with skirt-like edges.
- "What do you think? Even though it looks a little bit childish-----"
- Hm? While talking and talking I suddenly noticed that Kuroneko was staring at this swimsuit the entire time.
- ".... it, it really is an acceptable swimsuit..... your tastes are not bad, senpai."
- Really! Is the really okay! Unexpected... probably.
- Looking at those frilly skirt-like edges, it is rather similar to the clothes she normally wears.
- "Then... let's take this?"
- "Okay, this one it is."
- It really was chosen as simply as this.
- Holding the swimsuit Kuroneko proceeded to take out the money and bought it herself, really a girlfriend who wouldn't let me treat her to anything.
- This girl is very serious when it comes to that matter.

- After buying the swimsuit we directly went to the public pool.
- For the purpose of Kuroneko being able to swim before Hinata-chan and Tamaki-chan arrive.
- We split up in front of the dressing room, then I putted on the swimming trunks she chose for me and headed out.
- "Ku... hot!"
- This very clear day is absolutely a good day for swimming. I did some warm-up exercises next to the pool and carefully stretched myself.
- "......... sorry for the wait"
- Wearing the swimsuit I just chose for her, my girlfriend arrived.
- ".....ah"
- Compared to that goth-loli bikini the revealed parts of the body greatly decreased, but nevertheless my heart started to pound.
- It pounded even stronger than yesterday, perhaps because she was wearing the swimsuit I selected.
- "Ha... this, looks good."
- "Really?.... So happy to hear that."
- Kuroneko replied me in such a timid voice that I couldn't resist patting her on the head.
- Perhaps I hadn't been aware of that, or even thought entirely different.
- ...... that I actually like those type of girls that are younger than me.
- "Good, then ---- before starting the swimming exercises, let's warm up first."
- "Okay, understood, senpai."
- "Don't say okay, say 'Yes, Teacher'."
- I spoke it while doing a kind of pose. She frowned a second, then smiled and said
- "Yes, teacher ---- please take care of me."
- "............. uh."
- After a couple of minutes ---- I discovered something new about my girlfriend.
- Right then we were standing face to face in the pool, with the waterline reaching to the chest.
- "Kuroneko.... you"
- "..... wha, what."
- "Are you.... an idiot when it comes to sports?"
- "............................."
- Apparently hurt by the comment, Kuroneko silentely turned sidewards.
- Since looking at her whilst preparing ----- no, since I secretly watched her in the sports classes I already began to feel that way.
- "First, your body is too rigid."
- During the stretching exercises, she struggled and struggled, but was not able to touch the ground. When I wanted to help her by pushing her back down, she suddenly let out a H-sound. Really couldn't help it... That's not right! How can you make this kind of sound in a public bath---- honestly.
- "..... I'm really sorry. But I belong to the stay-inside-faction."
- "Even if it's like that... you still are a young person."
- Manami's body is also rigid as hell. As she is a grandma she makes 'oh, yoi, yoi .... oh, yoi, yoi..' kind of sounds when I'm helping her.
- "Furthermore, you are too afraid of the water."
- Even if one drop of water gets on her face, she starts to wipe around like crazy, when her feet touch the surface of the water she starts shouting like 'eh~ eh~', this absolutely is not okay.
- How can you take your sisters to the beach when like that? The reputation as an onee-san would be completely blown away.
- I don't really understand what those overly water-fearing people are thinking. They obviously have no problem bathing in the tub.
-"Why do you fear it like that? Did you nearly drown in the past?
- "... huh... that's the scar of a battle with a demon in the Agean.... a long long time ago."
- "Don't try to go around it using some kind of strange lines."
- "My, my preexistence was able to swim, really!"
- That was the first time I heard such a time-jumping excuse.
- "Mah... at this point we only can continue to work."
- Even though it looks like it will end up in a failure, let's see how far we get.
- First it's... moving the legs in the water. No... before that one first has to learn how to breathe while in the water.
- After an hour of training, Kuroneko was finally able to kick her legs in the water, while I held her. Although it is far from having 'learnt how to swim', a result is a result after all.
- "Puah!" Kuroneko raised her head out of the water. Then she shook her head, spraying the water all over the place, just like a cat.
- "Good. About time to rest, shall we get something to eat?"
- "You're right... Hah, I just can't do it."
- "Don't worry. You have made some progress."
- ".... but still... compared to what was promised to Hinata and Tamaki..."
- "It will indeed be tough to catch up to that."
- "In this case..."
- Kuroneko is probably intending to refuse going to the pool with her sisters before she is able to swim.
- "Even in this case it's still meaningful. At least the current Kuroneko can save Tamaki-chan when she falls over in the children's pool, right?"
- Before, Kuroneko wasn't able to do even this much.... Therefore the lessons did have their worth.
- "Besides, I'm also here."
- "... don't, don't say those cool-sounding words, senpai."
- "That is only natural, right. As a boyfriend... you have to act cool in front of your girlfriend!"
- "Is that so. Then, I'll also do something a girlfriend would do."
- Splash. Kuroneko rose from the pool and made a pleased face.
- "I've made bentos."

- We left the pool area, went outside, sat on a long park bench and started to eat these bentos.
- Kuroneko's outfit today was also the 'holy angel Kamineko'. So of course she drew the sights of the people around. My heart at this point was already more than able to withstand those piercing gazes, while I was walking besides my girlfriend on a date. I really did grow stronger.
- Like during the first date, inside the basket were sandwiches.
- "Lately you seldomly make rice balls anymore."
- "Eh heh. That's because even though you usually are of the Japanese-style-food-faction, when it comes to bento you are of the Western-style-faction."
- "Ah, when you put it like that it certainly sounds true."
- Quite surprising, even I myself hadn't realized that.
- I bit off a part of that little sandwich.
- "Mhm! Tastes great ---- sandwich with jam?"
- "Yes. This one is with chocolate, this one with lettuce and that one with egg. All in all, it's great if the tastes can satisfy you."
- "Mhmhm, very satisfied."
- "I see.. if you have some requests, feel free to ask them."
- "Nothing right now."
- I was virtually too satisfied and had no other wishes.
- "When thinking hard about it..... probably a little bit of meat."
- "Meat..."
- "Yes, yes. In case of sandwiches, like with tuna, pork, ham, or something like that."
- "I see."
- "And speaking of sandwiches, it would be great, if they were slightly bigger, don't cut them this small."
- "What 'thinking hard about it', these are a lot of requests."
- "It was you who said I shouldn't hesitate."
- "Yes, yes, these opinions help. Honestly, if you have a boyfriend with requirements when it comes to food it really is bothersome. Then, take this."
- Kuroneko handed me a tiny sandwich.
- "Eh? What's that?"
- ".........Ah......"
- "What are you saying?"
- Her voice was too small to understand her.
- Having said that, Kuroneko's face turned red and her finger tips also began to shake----
- "....Ah~~~~ please open your mouth."
- "You, you cut those sandwiches to this size for this reason!"
- "That's one part of the event... come, give it up."
- It, it's embarrassing as hell... are you intending to kill me?
- "Honestly--- Eh, eh, eh, no way around it. ---- I just have to open it!"
- ".... huh... that's more like senpai. Good, I'm coming.... ah~~~~~"
- "Ah~~~~~ ---- ku, really embarrassing this is."
- "Huhu... shall we repeat it? Good, ah~~~~~"
- "You, you come again!"
- Kuroneko always seems to be happy when it comes to eating. Surely I am the same.
- Then------

- After eliminating the delicious bentos we returned to the pool-------- Although I really do want to write this, in reality it wasn't so.
- When we had packed up and were about to leave
- "You, you, wait right there."
- The holy angel Kamineko was questioned by a police patrol.
- Eh, me and Kuroneko were confounded and could do nothing else than just wait there in confusion.
- "Eh?"
- "Do you mean us?"
- We answered similarly like this. Then were were asked something close to "Yes, correct. Are you students? Which school? Can you take a minute and answer our questions?" Well, something like this. Because it's summer vacations it's probably hard to distinguish students.
- "Hah"
- "............"
- I had the feeling that Kuroneko was not feeling well facing this police patrol, standing there silently, so it was mostly me who did the answering.
- The first time going to a date at the pool.
- Then, questioned by the police for the first time.
- The police patrol smiled in a subtle way (eyes were not smiling) and asked
- "Do you have your ID's with you?"
- "Ah ~ I do. A school ID." I looked at Kuroneko and asked "You also have yours with you, right?" But Kuroneko only shook her head.
- "It seems that only I have one."
- "No problem, let me have a look."
- The policeman who took my school ID nodded with a mmhm~ mmhm~and looked at it for a while.
- "Kousaka Kyousuke-kun... mmhm, sorry. Lately the residents here say that strange people have appeared, it's only due to caution that we've called you out. We won't bother you for long."
- "Strange people? Ha~ ha~ ha"
- No matter how you look at it, we don't seem like strange people, do we. What's this policeman doing~
- Right Kuroneko? I used the moment to glance over at my girlfriend.
- ".... hu, hu... really.... really impolite." (note, this part also could mean something like 'sorry' in Chinese, but I still went with something like this)
- A strange person!
- Ah~ I see. Because of the presence of the holy angel here, the police patrol noticed us, so I took up my courage and tried to explain.
- "Ahm.... This~"
- Cold sweat ran down my body, as I once again turned to the policeman.
- "Is that your girlfriend? This outfit is really incredible."
- "Hahahahahahaha"
- I could only pass this through laughing like an idiot!
- "This, ahm, you see.... do you know cosplay?"
- "Ah~ yes, I know, I know."
- I could only point the policeman towards this direction. Just when I was about to do this, an unexpected rebuttal came forward.
- "Cosplay? Huh, that's absolutely not the case. This is a 'holy angel outfit'."
- "What's a holy angel outfit?"
- Don't ask me!
- "This~ This, is the name of the outfit she's wearing..."
- What is this for a questioning, that's too agonizing!
- "Your girlfriend, why is she also wearing wings?"
- How should I know! When I wanted to reply 'isn't it part of an angel~'
- "..... Kukuku.... as you are asking so sincerely, then let me mercifully enlighten you... that's the result of the 'conversion' from the darkness into the light... to put it in other words, these are wings of love. But this is only an illusion. In reality they are far bigger than that...."
- "Say, your girlfriend doesn't have any problems, does she?
- I was on the verge of dying.
- "Well then, can I have a look at your bag?"
- "Yes....."
- Time passed so slowly, when I was questioned by the police for the first time in my life.

Doing a great job as always,good read and I think the end of the chapter comes after this or is there more events?

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Wilshere

Doing a great job as always,good read and I think the end of the chapter comes after this or is there more events?

Remember, I did skip a few parts before the Kyousuke-Kuroneko confrontation. This is the final missing part. So indeed, afterwards we will return to the 24th December. The Chinese guy is probably working on it right now, he was busy before.

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Remember, I did skip a few parts before the Kyousuke-Kuroneko confrontation. This is the final missing part. So indeed, afterwards we will return to the 24th December. The Chinese guy is probably working on it right now, he was busy before.

Thx,that is what I am looking forward to,his confession and nothing else!!!

[Kakurin]

The Chinese guy has just completed Chapter 3, I'll start working on it. But as it is a huge chunk of text, please be patient.

[Lucarion]

Originally Posted by virox

So, based on quick summaries of individual pages of the raws, it seems like Kirino's reaction to the sudden kiss at the end is like this:


That author is a hack.

PS: Life counseling = codeword, anyone?

That "life counseling session", and Kyousuke's sudden kiss is probably just his way of claiming his postponed honeymoon rights.

[Kakurin]

Part 7 Chapter 3:

Spoiler for Part 7 Chapter 3:

- Then, let us return the stage to this snowy Christmas eve of the 24th December.
- "Ha...... ha...... ha....."
- I was sprinting in this Tokyo-nighttime.
- Chasing the Kirino who was running away after hearing my truthful words.
- "Ha...... ha....... ha..... hehehehe...."
- Gradually my spirit also increased in intensity.
- At this point there was nothing left than to give it my all, independent of the results ------ right then I was capable of doing anything! This kind of blazing flame was burning in my chest.
- "Huhahahaha! Kirino ------ don't assume it will just end like this.....!"
- Quite the contrary, it can be said as the beginning.
- Facing this impatient (?) girl; I haven't conveyed all my feelings to you yet!
- "The things I want to tell you aren't just like that."
- Come and catch her quickly to let her hear the last few words.
- If you look at it rationally, catching up to this imouto is rather impossible, but right now I feel like I'm capable of doing anything. Although this is only an illustion, considering my blazing state.
- "Ha.... ha.... where exactly have you fled to Kirino------ do you think you can hide from your brother!"
- This absolutely is an insane line.
- The couples who are waiting by the traffic lights look at the soliloquizing me in a stunned fashion.
- "Huhuhu.... the me right now isn't Kousaka Kyousuke.... it's Super-Kyousuke!"
- The me at this moment was truly invincible. Although I've nearly forgotten about it, but I was feeling godly in a similar way when I went to buy those pants for Sakurai.
- This kind of insane flame is probably exactly of the kind Manami detests.
- But, I can't do anything about that! No matter whether it is the me who loves the quiteness, or the blazing, attacking, idiot-like me, these are all part of me.
- "Hoho! Found you!"
- I cried out, as these tea-coloured hair, that have long been engrained in my heart, came into my sights. It seems she has also stopped by the traffic lights. Even in this situation my imouto still adheres to the rules of the society.
- "Caught you ------------ !!"
- My right hand reached out for the shoulders of my imouto-----
- "!"
- Just when I was so close, the lights turned green and Kirino sprinted away in record speed. As she was running away, she didn't look back even once, but instead accelerated even further.
- "So fast!?"
- Although I know she is a track and field athlete, when chasing her like this, she really is incredibly fast.
- "Shit!"
- I really can't catch up. Kirino's backview is distancing further and further.
- Damn, the endurance of this idiot is unbelievable! While I am already panting up and down the street, what monster!
- Not, not good.... if I'm left behind like this, it would be too big a loss.
- "Ah! Damn! If I only I had a bike right now! Is there no friend with a traffic utensil here... !! President --- !! Mikagami -- !! Come here at once!"
-This kidn of me of very seriously prayed for outside help. Is really different from the middle school-me, if I had to tell it, it's probably that I've become softer in my thinking. Although my proud declaration that "I'm different from before! I've already grown up!" is a little bit strange, but [...] (don't know how to translate these few words)
- No matter who, growing up and degredation are only seperated by a fine line.
- I avoided the paveway full of couples and instead ran along the street.
- When Kirino's view had become only a little dot, help finally arrived.
- The rear windows of this 'Siscaly Minivan' that was besides me since I-don't-know-when were rolled down.
- "Kukuku.... aren't you in a tough struggle right now, accursed person."
- Like a female spirit out of a horror film a low, malicious voice appeared besides my ear.
- ".................."
- I turned my head to look and my face turned pale.
- "...... huh ..... ara, ara, you have a the-insane-crazy-woman-I-broke-up-with-four-days-ago-has-appeared look on your face."
- No matter from which perspective you look, these words were really harsh...
- I surely did not---- make this kind of face! If I said something like this, then what kind of a bastardly demon would I be!
- This curse.... really hurts in my heart, you know....
- While continuing to run
- "...... you.... why are you here..."
- "Hmph"
- Kuroneko made a sound using her nose and did not answer my question.
- But then the windows of the co-driver's seat was lowered and the face of the most-reliable friend appeared.
- "Kyousuke-shi! Quickly, come on board!"
- "Saori! You! You always! How reliable a girl are you!"
- Let's skip all my questions about the situation here, as I entered the van.
- My trust towards Saori had reached its maximum and even surpassed the scale.
- I slid into the backseat. Just then, Saori turned to the driver and said
- "Onee-san, step on it!"
- "As you wish!"
- It looks like it's Saori's onee-san --- Kaori-san ---- who's driving the car.
- In this minivan the driver was Kaori-san, the co-driver Saori, on the left backseat sat Kuroneko, one the right side me. Furthermore there was a big loudspeaker and screen behind the seats. Is it for watching anime?
- "Kyousuke-shi, it's enough to just catch-up to Kiririn-shi, right?"
- "Ah, ah! Talking about this, I also don't know how to do it exactly----------"
- "What discouraging things are you saying! Didn't I also help you reviewing your plans for today?"
- "I see, that's why you know where I was at which time."
- "Right. But thinking about you two, I, was really really really really worried----"
- "Really worried?"
- "That's why I invited everyone here to participate in the 'Don't-go-following-the-Christmas-eve-date-appreciation-party' (?)."
- "Oy, it's really strange here."
- Just because you are worried, you were following the date of your friends.
- "Since when have you been following us!"
- "From when you went out and bought an eroge, even though it's supposed to be a Christmas eve date."
- "Then you practically were with us from the very beginning!"
- Those troublesome guys!
- "Besides, the one who came up with the idea of a date in Akihabara was you Saori!"
- Don't sound like it's a hentai idea when you've come up with it yourself.
- "If you put it like that.... hahaha"
- I was fiddled by her laugh.
- "But right now the consequences of following you really has its benefits."
- "Honestly. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart. Because of you--- I still can fight until the end."
- "Is that so."
- As Saori spoke, a ω-formed smile appeared on her face.
- Even though it seems like not everything has been said ---- but it doesn't matter. Because Saori can't possibly do something that's a disservice to me.
- Next I looked at Kuroneko who was sitting next to me.
- Like when I met her the first time, her expression was cold and seemed like frozen.
- ".....Kuroneko..."
- "Kuroneko? Wrong, you're wrong---- right now I am the angel of revenge 'Yamineko'."
- ........... indeed she still was angry. But this time it wasn't the case of me being overly aware. It was all my fault.
- I couldn't come up with a single excuse. I also couldn't do a single thing for her.
- That's why I directly asked her
- "You.... why"
- "I'm here to accompany you to your end. For your demise."
- "..... I see... that's right."
- This counts as a word of understanding.
- Perhaps seeing me resigned to my fate---- her heart warmed up a little.
- I of course wouldn't get angry.
- "Then, watch and see."
- "Yes, I am watching."
- After that we didn't exchange a single word.
- Saori, who was sitting on the co-driver's seat said
- "Onee-san, is looking like she's lost her-----"
- "No, I'm right on her. Don't underestimate my eyesight. Mah, leave it to me. If it's the request of my cute imouto, then I as an onee-san will fulfill it, no matter what it is."
- "............"
- (Not sure how to translate this sentence, basically Kyousuke begins a conversation)
- ".... nah Saori. You are no longer mad at your onee-san?"
- Why did Kaori-san become a siscon-onee-san?
- "Yes, yes.... even though until recently it was still like this..."
- "We've made up"
- Kaori-san said
- "We each talked about our true feelings and dissolved these year-old misunderstandings."
- That just like..... me and Kirino.
- Just like us Kousakas, the story of the Makishima's is probably also a very, very long one.
- That's a story that only belongs to them, no need to tell us about it, so I didn't bothered asking.
- But nevertheless I still felt.... very sympathetic.
- "Saori. Being able to make up with your onee-san is great."
- This thought came from the bottom of my heart.
- "......... that's right"
- Saori blushed and smiled shyly.
- Kaori-san also laughed heartily while she moved that steering wheel.
- "The me after solving the misunderstandings is just like you ---- turned into a slave of the imouto."
- Don't throw us into the same lot! ----- But, I also don't have a right to really say that.
- "As you are gossiping, this unmistakable tea-coloured hair is coming closer ---- prepare yourself."
- "Okay, I understand."
- Alerted by Kuroneko, I attentively held my breath. Even if it's Kirino, she also can't outrun a car. Finally we had caught up to her.
- "Hmm, it seems that luckily she hasn't noticed us yet. ---- Onee-san, let's move around to her front."
- "Use a more moe way to ask me."
- "Onee-san ~ Please ~❤"
- "Oh, just there! ---- Although sadly the traffic is stuck."
- With a screeching soud, Kaori-san stepped on the breaks.
- "Ku! Having to do something that embarrassing! --- Kyousuke-shi!"
- "Yes!"

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Part 7 Chapter 3:

Spoiler for Part 7 Chapter 3:

- Then, let us return the stage to this snowy Christmas eve of the 24th December.
- "Ha...... ha...... ha....."
- I was sprinting in this Tokyo-nighttime.
- Chasing the Kirino who was running away after hearing my truthful words.
- "Ha...... ha....... ha..... hehehehe...."
- Gradually my spirit also increased in intensity.
- At this point there was nothing left than to give it my all, independent of the results ------ right then I was capable of doing anything! This kind of blazing flame was burning in my chest.
- "Huhahahaha! Kirino ------ don't assume it will just end like this.....!"
- Quite the contrary, it can be said as the beginning.
- Facing this impatient (?) girl; I haven't conveyed all my feelings to you yet!
- "The things I want to tell you aren't just like that."
- Come and catch her quickly to let her hear the last few words.
- If you look at it rationally, catching up to this imouto is rather impossible, but right now I feel like I'm even better than Amuro. Although this is only an illustion, considering my blazing state.
- "Ha.... ha.... where exactly have you fled to Kirino------ do you think you can hide from your brother!"
- This absolutely is an insane line.
- The couples who are waiting by the traffic lights look at the soliloquizing me in a stunned fashion.
- "Huhuhu.... the me right now isn't Kousaka Kyousuke.... it's Super-Kyousuke!"
- The me at this moment was truly invincible. Although I've nearly forgotten about it, but I was feeling godly in a similar way when I went to buy those pants for Sakurai.
- This kind of insane flame is probably exactly of the kind Manami detests.
- But, I can't do anything about that! No matter whether it is the me who loves the quiteness, or the blazing, attacking, idiot-like me, these are all part of me.
- "Hoho! Found you!"
- I cried out, as these tea-coloured hair, that have long been engrained in my heart, came into my sights. It seems she has also stopped by the traffic lights. Even in this situation my imouto still adheres to the rules of the society.
- "Caught you ------------ !!"
- My right hand reached out for the shoulders of my imouto-----
- "!"
- Just when I was so close, the lights turned green and Kirino sprinted away in record speed. As she was running away, she didn't look back even once, but instead accelerated even further.
- "So fast!?"
- Although I know she is a track and field athlete, when chasing her like this, she really is incredibly fast.
- "Shit!"
- I really can't catch up. Kirino's backview is distancing further and further.
- Damn, the endurance of this idiot is unbelievable! While I am already panting up and down the street, what monster!
- Not, not good.... if I'm left behind like this, it would be too big a loss.
- "Ah! Damn! If I only I had a bike right now! Is there no friend with a traffic utensil here... !! President --- !! Mikagami -- !! Come here at once!"
-This kidn of me of very seriously prayed for outside help. Is really different from the middle school-me, if I had to tell it, it's probably that I've become softer in my thinking. Although my proud declaration that "I'm different from before! I've already grown up!" is a little bit strange, but [...] (don't know how to translate these few words)
- No matter who, growing up and degredation are only seperated by a fine line.
- I avoided the paveway full of couples and instead ran along the street.
- When Kirino's view had become only a little dot, help finally arrived.
- The rear windows of this 'Siscaly Minivan' that was besides me since I-don't-know-when were rolled down.
- "Kukuku.... aren't you in a tough struggle right now, accursed person."
- Like a female spirit out of a horror film a low, malicious voice appeared besides my ear.
- ".................."
- I turned my head to look and my face turned pale.
- "...... huh ..... ara, ara, you have a the-insane-crazy-woman-I-broke-up-with-four-days-ago-has-appeared look on your face."
- No matter from which perspective you look, these words were really harsh...
- I surely did not---- make this kind of face! If I said something like this, then what kind of a bastardly demon would I be!
- This curse.... really hurts in my heart, you know....
- While continuing to run
- "...... you.... why are you here..."
- "Hmph"
- Kuroneko made a sound using her nose and did not answer my question.
- But then the windows of the co-driver's seat was lowered and the face of the most-reliable friend appeared.
- "Kyousuke-shi! Quickly, come on board!"
- "Saori! You! You always! How reliable a girl are you!"
- Let's skip all my questions about the situation here, as I entered the van.
- My trust towards Saori had reached its maximum and even surpassed the scale.
- I slid into the backseat. Just then, Saori turned to the driver and said
- "Onee-san, step on it!"
- "As you wish!"
- It looks like it's Saori's onee-san --- Kaori-san ---- who's driving the car.
- In this minivan the driver was Kaori-san, the co-driver Saori, on the left backseat sat Kuroneko, one the right side me. Furthermore there was a big loudspeaker and screen behind the seats. Is it for watching anime?
- "Kyousuke-shi, it's enough to just catch-up to Kiririn-shi, right?"
- "Ah, ah! Talking about this, I also don't know how to do it exactly----------"
- "What discouraging things are you saying! Didn't I also help you reviewing your plans for today?"
- "I see, that's why you know where I was at which time."
- "Right. But thinking about you two, I, was really really really really worried----"
- "Really worried?"
- "That's why I invited everyone here to participate in the 'Don't-go-following-the-Christmas-eve-date-appreciation-party' (?)."
- "Oy, it's really strange here."
- Just because you are worried, you were following the date of your friends.
- "Since when have you been following us!"
- "From when you went out and bought an eroge, even though it's supposed to be a Christmas eve date."
- "Then you practically were with us from the very beginning!"
- Those troublesome guys!
- "Besides, the one who came up with the idea of a date in Akihabara was you Saori!"
- Don't sound like it's a hentai idea when you've come up with it yourself.
- "If you put it like that.... hahaha"
- I was fiddled by her laugh.
- "But right now the consequences of following you really has its benefits."
- "Honestly. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart. Because of you--- I still can fight until the end."
- "Is that so."
- As Saori spoke, a ω-formed smile appeared on her face.
- Even though it seems like not everything has been said ---- but it doesn't matter. Because Saori can't possibly do something that's a disservice to me.
- Next I looked at Kuroneko who was sitting next to me.
- Like when I met her the first time, her expression was cold and seemed like frozen.
- ".....Kuroneko..."
- "Kuroneko? Wrong, you're wrong---- right now I am the angel of revenge 'Yamineko'."
- ........... indeed she still was angry. But this time it wasn't the case of me being overly aware. It was all my fault.
- I couldn't come up with a single excuse. I also couldn't do a single thing for her.
- That's why I directly asked her
- "You.... why"
- "I'm here to accompany you to your end. For your demise."
- "..... I see... that's right."
- This counts as a word of understanding.
- Perhaps seeing me resigned to my fate---- her heart warmed up a little.
- I of course wouldn't get angry.
- "Then, watch and see."
- "Yes, I am watching."
- After that we didn't exchange a single word.
- Saori, who was sitting on the co-driver's seat said
- "Onee-san, is looking like she's lost her-----"
- "No, I'm right on her. Don't underestimate my eyesight. Mah, leave it to me. If it's the request of my cute imouto, then I as an onee-san will fulfill it, no matter what it is."
- "............"
- (Not sure how to translate this sentence, basically Kyousuke begins a conversation)
- ".... nah Saori. You are no longer mad at your onee-san?"
- Why did Kaori-san become a siscon-onee-san?
- "Yes, yes.... even though until recently it was still like this..."
- "We've made up"
- Kaori-san said
- "We each talked about our true feelings and dissolved these year-old misunderstandings."
- That just like..... me and Kirino.
- Just like us Kousakas, the story of the Makishima's is probably also a very, very long one.
- That's a story that only belongs to them, no need to tell us about it, so I didn't bothered asking.
- But nevertheless I still felt.... very sympathetic.
- "Saori. Being able to make up with your onee-san is great."
- This thought came from the bottom of my heart.
- "......... that's right"
- Saori blushed and smiled shyly.
- Kaori-san also laughed heartily while she moved that steering wheel.
- "The me after solving the misunderstandings is just like you ---- turned into a slave of the imouto."
- Don't throw us into the same lot! ----- But, I also don't have a right to really say that.
- "As you are gossiping, this unmistakable tea-coloured hair is coming closer ---- prepare yourself."
- "Okay, I understand."
- Alerted by Kuroneko, I attentively held my breath. Even if it's Kirino, she also can't outrun a car. Finally we had caught up to her.
- "Hmm, it seems that luckily she hasn't noticed us yet. ---- Onee-san, let's move around to her front."
- "Use a more moe way to ask me."
- "Onee-san ~ Please ~❤"
- "Oh, just there! ---- Although sadly the traffic is stuck."
- With a screeching soud, Kaori-san stepped on the breaks.
- "Ku! Having to do something that embarrassing! --- Kyousuke-shi!"
- "Yes!"

Hmm nice very nice but the important part is missing! Surely there is another part?

[bakAnki]

LOL Kaori and Saori stole that part of chapter for me

So the LN didn't mention more of Saori and Kaori's dispute other than on vol 9? The full story behind their cold war on Kaori side and the making up only takes place on PSP game?

[Clodial]

Originally Posted by mayid

Yes indeed. I am satisfied with it. Two kisses can't, complain about it as a kirino shipper.

Edit: the thing i am afraid about is: Because of the many laws that are being implemented in Japan that ban incest/loli story's that are popular and who dont have an hentai plot (not an 18 years above label).
And if people start to complain about the ending of the novel because it has also an anime adaption and hints to an incest route. That means that the writter will maybe change slightly the way he wanted to end the novel. I am then talking about 10 years later. This could affect it and maybe they will indeed end up as normal siblings. For me it would leave me with a bad aftertaste. Because it is like he is changing it because of social pressure and because of the financial point of view. To make it sell better.

If the story of 10 years latter ends up like nooo, they are normal siblings crap. Then i will hate it and want it to end here.

The thing i hate the most is, if the writter couldnt end up the story the way he intended to from the start. Because of some laws.

It is this thing that makes me think. That this is one of the last popular story's that would have such an devolpment. In the future we would see less story's like this one.

Ah, I get what you mean, reminds me of "6 Days in Fallujah" and what not XD I don't get it either, why do artists, doesn't matter what series, why can't they do something as crazy and provoking as these things?

[Lucarion]

Originally Posted by virox

So, based on quick summaries of individual pages of the raws, it seems like Kirino's reaction to the sudden kiss at the end is like this:


That author is a hack.

PS: Life counseling = codeword, anyone?

Originally Posted by BladeEntity

Probably before he rediscovered his feelings for Kirino she was the one he loved the most,

Oreimo now officially needs a New Testament too bad It's difficult to continue it from this point.

Have to say though the last volume makes you really want to play Happy End.

Originally Posted by sleepingleo

Yep, it will continue until daddy police officer put Kyousuke's ass into jail. For life if possible.

Really after reading Kuroneko and Ayase's parts and the afterword of the author i changed my status from sad to enraged with the shitty god of this world, a.k.a, the author. Was it necessary for two good (fictional if you prefer) girls go through the pain of falling in love with a douche that ended telling them "Hmm yeah you know, i prefer to tap my sister". Say what?

This shitty author says:

"With that, I thought it really seemed as if the characters are actual people in real life."

No sir, goverment (from most countries in this real life) is there to prevent, or at least try to, from people from marrying their blood-related siblings.

For me this conclusion renders the volumes 5, 8, 10, and Kuroneko's spinoff manga meaningless and pointless. If he wanted pair siblings from the beggining I don't see the point in exploring other love interests, other than making likeable characters and milk money from that, which i'm sure was goal. If it was for a formless cheap reason like "character development" there were better ways without the need of explore alternative love interests.

Many people hate Manami for her hidden agenda, but is that really fair? Anyone has the right to try to monopolize their love interest, just as Kirino did. In other hand, Manami was also the voice of reason there, siblings must not be lovers, it's an axiom in society, doesn't need an explanation. If you remember Manami never interfered with Kuroneko and Kyousuke's relationship, and I'm sure she didn't lack drive to do it, but she didn't, she respected Kyousuke position. But when your love interest is going in direct collision to social and legal scorn, the least you can do is try to stop it. Sure she did have a dark side, but was that really so dark? Just by trying to drill Kirino a truth: "Siblings cannot be lovers, that's not normal". She tried to shape Kyosuke to fit her tastes, many people do, Kirino did the same, so what is wrong with that?

In the end, it's a matter of feelings, thus it's a subjective business. But the law is non-negotiable, parents feelings and other friends (Manami's and Kuronekos families) aren't either, and I'm sure everyone of those would appeal to common sense to disqualify Kirino and Kyousuke's realationship as immoral and abnormal.

I don't know if the author will suffer any retaliation from goverment for this controvertial incest ending, but I for one will do the most that reader can do: Never read any other of his work, never recommend any of his works and express my deep dissapointment in reviews.

With all respect, boycotting his future stuff sounds pretty stupid....you might end up liking his other works more and miss out on having a good time. Also, who cares about the law when wincest is on the line? =w= Society is a bigger spoiled brat than Kirino and I'm not inclined to give it what it wants when I think it's being a dumbass. Normal? Screw it. I say let them feel disturbed and uncomfortable, but I'd be damned if I didn't do what makes me happy.