2008-06-20, 12:57 | Link #101 | |
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What I'm curious to find out is whether or not they forgave SS knowing that they were tricked by Aizen or still hold contempt against them and want to purge both sides. Now that would be interesting. Impossible(because of our hero Ichigo), but interesting. |
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2008-06-20, 13:05 | Link #103 | |
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BTW, as far as Shinji saying he is in debt to Urahara that was sincere for his devotion of healing them but when they said they are indebted to Aizen he was the one who gave them incredible powers but they are still pissed and they plan on getting their revenge from the look of their facial expression when they said Aizen's name. Last edited by Phenomenal; 2008-06-20 at 13:21. |
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2008-06-20, 13:28 | Link #104 |
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Hypnosis
1. an artificially induced trance state resembling sleep, characterized by heightened susceptibility to suggestion. 2. hypnotism. Illusion 1. something that deceives by producing a false or misleading impression of reality. 2. the state or condition of being deceived; misapprehension. 3. an instance of being deceived. 4. Psychology. a perception, as of visual stimuli (optical illusion), that represents what is perceived in a way different from the way it is in reality. 5. a very thin, delicate tulle of silk or nylon having a cobwebbed appearance, for trimmings, veilings, and the like. 6. Obsolete. the act of deceiving; deception; delusion. I'm siding with he creates illusions until I'm told by the author something else. I had some things to point out. The whole argument about when and where the Hogyoku was placed in Rukia is screwed. Kubo himself didn't go back and check some things he said himself that messes up when it was placed in her. I don't care who placed it in her. I'm more worried about when it was placed in her. Heres a few things I'm concerned with. 1. 50 years ago Hisana(Byakuya's wife) died and she made him make that promise to find her little sister. Rukia was a little child then at the time even if they do age slowly that makes it impossible for her to be as big as she is now. Basically she's a 15 year old. 2. #1 makes it impossible for Rukia to even be around when these flashbacks took place. If she was around back then she was an embryo and they grow mighty slow. 3. Rukia has said she has lived 10 of Ichigo's lives. 10 * 15 = 150?????? 4. Hayashi is right to smell something a little fishy about all this. Once I read his comments I went back and checked myself. 5. How in the hell does Aizen know of the Hogyoku in the first place when Urahara takes it out for the 1st time back at his lab? 6. Aizen said Urahara never once used the Hogyoku? 7. Like everyone else has said....Isshin???? Ryuken??? Where were they at 8. My final comment....I'm going back to believing that when Rukia transferred her powers, she also transfered some Hogyoku juice into Ichigo who in turn through his reiatsu leakage gave his 2 best friends, Chado and Inoue, their powers. Forgot to add that I do not think that Aizen knows the Vaizards survived. All he's every said was that Urahara was exiled. I think Aizen is in for a big surprise next week. <<<This is my prediction Last edited by lequory; 2008-06-20 at 13:52. |
2008-06-20, 13:32 | Link #105 | |
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Also Shinji and co might have a bone to pick with 46 but 46 is dead. The captains are old friends of their who probably didn't even know what happen to them other then what was told to them by 46.
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2008-06-20, 14:06 | Link #107 | |
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2008-06-20, 14:06 | Link #108 |
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Why are peoples so stuck up on Isshin, he wasn't included in the flashback, that can only mean only another thing.. he's involved in another part of Aizen's plan, which is the king of SS and the royal guard.
^ Even if GJ isnt talking.. There's Emoboy. and his eyes.
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2008-06-20, 14:19 | Link #109 |
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Grimjaw asked Shinji his name to commence the fight. But in a blasphemous break of Bleachtradition, Shinji refused to give it to him, saying it didn't matter.
Regardless, if either Ulquiorra or Grimm had described Shinji, Aizen would've recognized it. Shinji probably doesn't care though. |
2008-06-20, 14:31 | Link #110 | |
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Why else would Aizen state that Urahara never once used the Ball. |
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2008-06-20, 14:52 | Link #113 | |
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As for Aizen's shikai, I think it really doesn't matter if it's hypnosis or illusion altho I tend to think it's the former. Because in reality a person under hypnosis can be "deceived" to see/believe things as the one who put him/her in hypnosis would suggest to him/her. I've read once that a woman was hypnotized and was told that her purse was actually her cat and she simply treated it like that. My point is, hypnosis makes one sees illusions as the "hypnotizer" wants it and Aizen said the key to being "deceived" is seeing his released zampaktu which is why Tousen can't fall for such a thing. Back to the present, as much as I am anticipating the karakura battle, I am almost positive that the vizards and SS will lose or will be on the verge of losing to Aizen
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2008-06-20, 15:00 | Link #114 | |
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I wonder know how kt will handle the plot from this point on, will the vizards be bad guys or victims or heros? I sense that the urahara thought he had failed back then when we hadnt and that the vizard wernt changing back to normal willingly after experiencing the new power, the last few frames with the vizard wer prty eerie, and im not sure wat to make of their intentions but i think their actions could be of the following : fight aizen OR join him and refill his espada ranks to make aizens real dream team, either way they will want revenge or at least acceptance from SS. i was rewatching the ep where isshin and urahara meet, it seems that isshin doesnt know about the reality of the vizard but only the ss side of it but he did know about aizen despite being out of ss b4 aizen publicly revealed himself - my guess is isshin uncovered something about aizen but was similarly framed like urahara and banished or he was victim to one of aizens experiments but again was banished. [EDIT] theory : Yamamoto and SS know more about aizen and wat happened in the past then they sho, their recent preparations suggest they arnt as dumb as theyv acted b4. Also y did aizen hav to kill the 46, he doesnt neccasserily hav to kill evry1 above him to rule over em Last edited by kadenza; 2008-06-20 at 15:15. |
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I don't see Soul Society losing to Aizen, actually I see both sides taking major injuries in this battle. Aizen was right to cut SS forces in half Unohana, Byakuya Kenpachi etc probably would have been overkill against the Espada. |
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2008-06-20, 18:15 | Link #117 | |
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Yeah, originally it seemed like the hollow powers were a unintentional side-effect. But now, who knows?
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2008-06-20, 18:18 | Link #118 |
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Those 46 old guys of dickery are like a poor man's retarded version of SEELE. Their motto is "Above the starry-sky God will judge, the way we have made a mess of the judicial system by failing to listen to suspects and witnesses"
It's not as catchy, but it gets to the point. |
2008-06-20, 18:54 | Link #119 |
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So after reading the chapter, I am very confused as to whose side the vizards will join.
Reasons to join SS: -They owe their lives to Urahara, Tessai and Yoruichi -Urahara saved them from turning into complete hollows by using the Hougyoku, thus allowing the shinigami to battle their inner hollows and eventually beating them to gain control of their hollow powers. -They trained Ichigo and helped him control his inner hollow. -Hirako fought against Grimmjow and prior to shooting a cero blast at him he said: "Sorry about this arrancar. Since you seem to be strong, I won't be going easy on you". Thus, Hirako saw him as a threat that needed to be squashed. -Shinji never trusted Aizen and always supected of him. -Urahara said the vizards would be valuable allies in the battle against Aizen's army. Reasons to join Espada: -If it weren't for Aizen, they would never have achieved their hollow powers. -SS gave orders to kill them as hollows, even though they were clearly the victims of Aizen's experiment. -Espada ranks are outnumbered by SS, so it would be interesting to see the vizards fight against shinigami. -Aizen seems too confident, regardless of the fact that he only has 3 Espada (and their respective fraccion). I don't like that arrogance. But then again, I think the vizards will fight alongside SS. Plus, it seems to me they have been in contact w/ Urahara since they came to earth. And SS (or at least Yamamoto) has been in contact w/ Urahara. |
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