2010-07-16, 13:43 | Link #3121 |
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Well I think people pin Nanjo because he was Kinzo's best friend and Gaap is Beatrice's best friend. That and it's funny to imagine him wearing a dress.
I'm interested in why you think Gaap is Rosa though because she actually has a decent chance to be the killer who stays behind in episode 3 and of course she's suspicious in episode 2.
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2010-07-16, 14:04 | Link #3123 | |
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My impression is that Rosa/Gaap triggers when the First Letter is in one way or another not delivered as expected, which occurs in Ep4 and Ep5. Only in this case Gaap is "summoned", i.e. Rosa is asked to do something. That only depends on who's going to ever see that Beatrice. Most of the time, only Maria does, and we don't know anything specific about the identity of Maria's Beatrice.
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2010-07-16, 14:31 | Link #3124 | |
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Rosa/ Gaap theory seems to make sense. The fashion link seems to be the most clear. Plus... well, noone dislikes Rosa (except Maria sometimes, I guess). She could probably get almost anyone to go along with her. |
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2010-07-16, 14:33 | Link #3125 |
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2010-07-16, 17:01 | Link #3127 |
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"Die early a lot" or "seem to die early a lot"?
Though, if you are actually involved in a fake first twilight as an organiser, and someone else plans to use it as an opportunity to kill someone, taking out those involved in organising it early if possible is only prudent, if you aren't planning to pin the crime on them -- otherwise they might alert the survivors.
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2010-07-16, 20:51 | Link #3128 | |
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I guess this probably means Rosa fakes being dead along with the rest most of the time (although ep3 keeps it purely among the servants). |
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2010-07-16, 22:38 | Link #3130 |
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Rosa does seem to fit Beatrice. That would mean that she lied about Kinzo getting mad for naming her Child Maria and the name does lead to the Gold afterall. In EP4 Kinzo does aprove Maria. How many people actually said that Kinzo and Maria do not get along?
Also the Epitaph was created after Marias birth, to be exactly it was in his last year he was seen alive, so it is basicly his testament. There is also no reason for Beatrice to love Battler (the last time she saw him he was 12 or 13) and a reason to love him (now a young hottie) But i do not see a single 19, 6 or 7 connecting Rosa other that she met Beatrice 19 years ago. Not even with the l theory. |
2010-07-21, 02:32 | Link #3134 |
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I'm on a reread through episode 5 and I'm already noticing things I didn't before.
First off Nanjo has memories from time when Kinzo" was suddenly selected to become the family head". Not sure if that affects Nanjo's age any, but people with time lines might want to look at that. Another thing I noticed is that one of Krauss's contacts that supposedly got swindled in the moon tourism thing with him is a "Mr. Sonezaki". Higurashi references again...
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2010-07-21, 11:07 | Link #3136 |
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There were two weird things I noticed before in Ep 5, and I don't remember if I brought them up before.
1) Kinzo was apparently really into mysteries, and apparently owned several original copies of ENGLISH mystery novels. Apparently his mystery library was in the guest house. 2) Nanjo knows enough English to read those mystery novels too. Those two things seemed really weird and off to me. |
2010-07-21, 14:04 | Link #3140 |
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Of course, he is an acclomplice in some sense. The fact that he's on the island pretty much states that he'll take part in some operation if not having any relevant part in it outside of faking autopsies.
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