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Key Board · 2012-10-07, 08:11

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Originally Posted by creb

I view Kickstarter with a great deal of skepticism, but I wonder if crowd-sourced funding is the only viable path to getting big games that haven't had their souls sucked out by corporate suits again.

it has potential

but as of now, I only know of one game that has reached completion: FTL
give 3 more GOOD games and I'll start to be more optimistic and participate

but listening too much to fans is just as destructive
because fans themselves often to do not realize what they like about a particular game,
and they often have trouble phrasing it to the game developers.

also sometimes fans just want a copy and paste of what they like about a game, but with updated graphics and sound.
that's boring

synaesthetic · 2012-10-07, 16:31

Obsidian has used crowdsourcing (through Kickstarter) to gain funds for both the development of the Wasteland remake (currently in development) and to develop a spiritual sequel to Planescape: Torment (still obtaining funding).

Tokkan · 2012-10-07, 16:41

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Obsidian has used crowdsourcing (through Kickstarter) to gain funds for both the development of the Wasteland remake (currently in development) and to develop a spiritual sequel to Planescape: Torment (still obtaining funding).

... Wasteland 2 is not being done by Obsidian, Obsidian's just helping. Wasteland 2 is being done by inXile (people who brought you Bard's Tale).

Also, it's not a remake.

Key Board · 2012-10-07, 19:21

He's referring to Project Eternity

Tokkan · 2012-10-07, 19:22

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Originally Posted by Key Board

He's referring to Project Eternity

synaesthetic is a she and she was referring to both.

Key Board · 2012-10-07, 20:41

To me, one of the biggest advantage and biggest concern of kick-starter is there is no binding contract as to when the game must be completed

there is no set release date

the advantage is you can completely finish a game without being pressured by release dates

but it's also a concern because development may drag on too long and that's usually never good.

FlareKnight · 2012-10-08, 09:43

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Originally Posted by Key Board

To me, one of the biggest advantage and biggest concern of kick-starter is there is no binding contract as to when the game must be completed

there is no set release date

the advantage is you can completely finish a game without being pressured by release dates

but it's also a concern because development may drag on too long and that's usually never good.

Well, there's always positives and negatives. Extremes going either way will rarely be good. Too short and the game is rushed and terrible, too long and it may end up looking dated, etc.

I think the advantage is greater than the negative. Certainly could be problems, but a bit worried that this might be the only way to get games out without that rush.

SidVicious · 2012-10-08, 13:39

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yOAZux8ip8

synaesthetic · 2012-10-09, 07:07

Only took like two minutes to reveal they didn't do the research... the Protheans were not named to the Systems Alliance until AFTER they met with the other Citadel races. Biotics were also not figured out until afterwards.

Otherwise it was mildly entertaining, about as much as the Dragon Age series with Felicia Day. Not accurate to the source material, but entertaining nonetheless.

Keroko · 2012-10-09, 10:40

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Originally Posted by Key Board

but it's also a concern because development may drag on too long and that's usually never good.

Dunno, Blizzard is a good example of it going right. They have a decent record of dragging out development times and still ending up with good games.

synaesthetic · 2012-10-09, 16:20

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Originally Posted by Keroko

Dunno, Blizzard is a good example of it going right. They have a decent record of dragging out development times and still ending up with good games.

Also Valve.

PS valve where's episode 3

srsly dafuq's takin' so long

Tokkan · 2012-10-09, 16:25

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Also Valve.

PS valve where's episode 3

srsly dafuq's takin' so long

Episode 3? Don't be silly, Valve can't count to 3.

KBTKaiser · 2012-10-09, 17:05

they jumped to 4 *looks at L4D*

Ak3mi · 2012-10-12, 20:57

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/10/13/re...ffect-3-omega/

May actually make me want to play through this game again.

Will have to wait and see.

Snuffle · 2012-10-13, 05:11

OOOOOOOHH YES!!! I so look forward to this! Traveling with Aria sounds like it would be a blast! Even if it's only as her guiding Shepard and his team mates and not as an actual character to put on your team.

DON'T F**K WITH AIRA.

Ak3mi · 2012-10-13, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Snuffle

OOOOOOOHH YES!!! I so look forward to this! Traveling with Aria sounds like it would be a blast! Even if it's only as her guiding Shepard and his team mates and not as an actual character to put on your team.

DON'T F**K WITH AIRA.

Ahah so excited

I feel like this should of been in the game from the start, but oh well.
I feel with the addition of this I will reinstall the game and play through it again

Snuffle · 2012-10-19, 15:13

Not sure how old this news is (ignoring the article written date), but there is some info on Mass Effect '4' (might not even be called 4).

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/10/1...tar-shepherd-2

Keroko · 2012-10-20, 07:58

The biggest mistake they could make is have the game set after the events of ME3. Given how this would essentially make all but one of the endings non-canon, what little customization the ME3 ending did give would be rendered moot.

Instead, it'd be better if the game were set before or during the ME1 and 2 timeframe. Plenty of room there for a good adventure without messing up the ME1-3 continuity.

Snuffle · 2012-10-20, 11:16

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Originally Posted by Keroko

Instead, it'd be better if the game were set before or during the ME1 and 2 timeframe. Plenty of room there for a good adventure without messing up the ME1-3 continuity.

I already mentioned that earlier in this thread, it should be a prequel to ME1. They have a being that existed before the reapers. They could show off the Turian (with Salarians?) vs Krogan war. The Quarian vs Geth can go into more depth. That's more than enough story for a prequel game. I forgot how the Asari were involved in the whole story besides being the race that were the most advanced or something.

There's also the Protheans but that timeline is way back when Earthlings where cavemen. More story about the Protheans would have to be a DLC for ME3. For some unknown reason, Bioware did not expand on the story with Javick (was that his name?). It's just here's your new squad member, he's a Prothean, more info not available. The heck?? I'm not ranting about that, I just find it strange... There is no quest/mission about him, it feels too hollow.

Keroko · 2012-10-20, 11:22

The Quarrian/Geth war has been expanded on enough in my opinion. I'd rather see more on the First Contact War.

2012-10-07, 16:31	Link #3542
synaesthetic blinded by blood Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Age: 39	Obsidian has used crowdsourcing (through Kickstarter) to gain funds for both the development of the Wasteland remake (currently in development) and to develop a spiritual sequel to Planescape: Torment (still obtaining funding). __________________ Indie science fiction author and all-around weirdo: Check out my original fiction here! Read an excerpt from my sci-fi novel Binary System!

2012-10-07, 19:21	Link #3544
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	He's referring to Project Eternity __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2012-10-07, 20:41	Link #3546
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	To me, one of the biggest advantage and biggest concern of kick-starter is there is no binding contract as to when the game must be completed there is no set release date the advantage is you can completely finish a game without being pressured by release dates but it's also a concern because development may drag on too long and that's usually never good. __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2012-10-08, 13:39	Link #3548
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2012-10-09, 07:07	Link #3549
synaesthetic blinded by blood Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Age: 39	Only took like two minutes to reveal they didn't do the research... the Protheans were not named to the Systems Alliance until AFTER they met with the other Citadel races. Biotics were also not figured out until afterwards. Otherwise it was mildly entertaining, about as much as the Dragon Age series with Felicia Day. Not accurate to the source material, but entertaining nonetheless. __________________ Indie science fiction author and all-around weirdo: Check out my original fiction here! Read an excerpt from my sci-fi novel Binary System!

2012-10-09, 17:05	Link #3553
KBTKaiser Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 38	they jumped to 4 looks at L4D

2012-10-12, 20:57	Link #3554
Ak3mi Tumble Rumble Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Imagination Land Age: 39	http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/10/13/re...ffect-3-omega/ May actually make me want to play through this game again. Will have to wait and see. __________________

2012-10-13, 05:11	Link #3555
Snuffle likes cute things Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Searching for more imoutos Age: 43	OOOOOOOHH YES!!! I so look forward to this! Traveling with Aria sounds like it would be a blast! Even if it's only as her guiding Shepard and his team mates and not as an actual character to put on your team. DON'T F**K WITH AIRA.

2012-10-19, 15:13	Link #3557
Snuffle likes cute things Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Searching for more imoutos Age: 43	Not sure how old this news is (ignoring the article written date), but there is some info on Mass Effect '4' (might not even be called 4). http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/10/1...tar-shepherd-2

2012-10-20, 07:58	Link #3558
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	The biggest mistake they could make is have the game set after the events of ME3. Given how this would essentially make all but one of the endings non-canon, what little customization the ME3 ending did give would be rendered moot. Instead, it'd be better if the game were set before or during the ME1 and 2 timeframe. Plenty of room there for a good adventure without messing up the ME1-3 continuity.

2012-10-20, 11:22	Link #3560
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	The Quarrian/Geth war has been expanded on enough in my opinion. I'd rather see more on the First Contact War.