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al103 · 2010-12-18, 09:11

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Originally Posted by Moczo

As far as I know, a fanfic. At least that's the only place I've ever seen it; the author's handle on FF.net is 'Daishi Prime'.

Nah, it was translation of something on this forum. Was it booklet or sound stage I really do not remember. IIRC it was about upgrades Signum made to her sword.

Nagumo · 2010-12-18, 13:43

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Originally Posted by Koveras Alvane

Maybe in the manga, but never in any anime AFAIK. The topic of money has been very much averted, to the point where you have to wonder whether they have ideal communism as their social order. ^^;

I believe currency exists. After all in the Sound Stage SSX we have them paying for food and Teana's partner getting a place where they didn't have to pay a hotel cancellation fees.

Kaijo · 2010-12-18, 14:11

Due to human nature, money will pretty much always be around. True communism only works on a small scale. Unless a series blatantly says that money is gone, I tend to assume it's present, in one form or another. Humans will always seek to barter and trade with each other, and money makes that easier and smoother on a large scale.

Koveras Alvane · 2010-12-18, 15:06

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Originally Posted by al103

Nah, it was translation of something on this forum. Was it booklet or sound stage I really do not remember. IIRC it was about upgrades Signum made to her sword.

I would be very grateful if you remembered which booklet or soundstage exactly that was. Everything that shows off Signum's awesomeness is very relevant to my interests.

...because swinging around a half-a-ton sword is awesome. Seriously.

Anh_Minh · 2010-12-18, 15:19

I... don't think it normally weighs half a ton. Or for Bardiche to parry at all, it'd have to be in the same ballpark in weight, and Erio's carried it without problems.

Keroko · 2010-12-18, 15:21

Remember. Magic.

Anh_Minh · 2010-12-18, 17:56

I'm not excluding magic induced, temporary weight. But I think if it always weighted that much, Erio would have remarked on it.

Arkeus · 2010-12-18, 18:04

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I'm not excluding magic induced, temporary weight. But I think if it always weighted that much, Erio would have remarked on it.

Erio has been shown to wrestle with multi-tons metal robots though, so mages having enhanced strength is nothing new- especially belkan ones.

Skane · 2010-12-18, 18:37

Not to mention the way he carried Fate like she weighed a feather.

Natch.

Keroko · 2010-12-18, 19:06

And Vita's hammer which can reach Godzilla worthy proportions.

Anh_Minh · 2010-12-18, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Arkeus

Erio has been shown to wrestle with multi-tons metal robots though, so mages having enhanced strength is nothing new- especially belkan ones.

Yeah... But (from the movie sound stage, side F):

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Caro: School uniforms and barrier jackets… Amazing! And a to-scale sized (movie version) Bardiche and Raising Heart.
Erio: You’re right! I wonder if we can hold/touch this.
Fate: They said feel free and go ahead.
Erio: Okay, then I’ll just hold it for a bit. Whoa, it’s not as heavy as the real thing, but it’s still pretty heavy.
Caro: Oh, let me try, let me try! Whoa, you’re right.

Makes me think the prop can't be much lighter than 80, 70% of the real thing's weight. Would they make a prop that weighs several hundred kilos? And note, even Caro can carry it.

Also:

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Caro: Erio-kun’s held the real one before, right?
Erio: When I was still a child. Have you Caro?

Wouldn't that line mean he held it before he learnt much magic?

Also food for thought: Subaru's strength was remarked upon. Not just because she abused it, but because she had it at all (in those quantities). If throwing people around dozens of meters up was something every mage could do, she'd just be a clumsy airhead who can't control her strength, instead of a stupidly strong, clumsy airhead who can't control her strength.

al103 · 2010-12-19, 05:20

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I... don't think it normally weighs half a ton. Or for Bardiche to parry at all, it'd have to be in the same ballpark in weight, and Erio's carried it without problems.

Normally - no. IIRC it's all parts for all form weighted so... But Snake Form most likely weight at least 3/4 of that.

Koveras Alvane · 2010-12-21, 12:10

Is the term "Sea of Dimensions" official?

Arkeus · 2010-12-21, 13:12

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Originally Posted by Koveras Alvane

Is the term "Sea of Dimensions" official?

Iirc, the Fansubs for the first season and maybe A's said 'dimensional sea".

Koveras Alvane · 2010-12-21, 13:23

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Originally Posted by Arkeus

Iirc, the Fansubs for the first season and maybe A's said 'dimensional sea".

The movie uses the term "imaginary space", which is also covered on the Japanese wiki. Can it be that the fansubbers meant it?

Arkeus · 2010-12-21, 14:16

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Originally Posted by Koveras Alvane

The movie uses the term "imaginary space", which is also covered on the Japanese wiki. Can it be that the fansubbers meant it?

No, "imaginary space" is what they called "dark space" in the first season, as in, the space where you can't do magic and would fall forever that appears during dimensional quakes.

Koveras Alvane · 2010-12-21, 15:07

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Originally Posted by Arkeus

No, "imaginary space" is what they called "dark space" in the first season, as in, the space where you can't do magic and would fall forever that appears during dimensional quakes.

Right. And the "dimension sea" is where the spaceships are supposed to travel? They look somewhat similar...

Kallen4life · 2010-12-21, 17:07

just for clarification - they don't actually go to other dimenions/universes ? Where there're alternate Earths/Mid-childas etc. And this Dimension Sea is like ~hyperspace ? for faster travel ?

Keroko · 2010-12-21, 18:56

The variety of worlds we see are all different dimensions. They don't follow the 'alternate earth' theory. Each dimension is unique in that regard.

Koveras Alvane · 2010-12-22, 01:41

Can anyone at least point me to any scene where "dimension sea" is used in the fansubs? I only have hardcoded subs of the first two seasons, so I cannot exactly search through them... All I need is the Japanese spelling of the term, I'll be able to go on from there.

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Kaijo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.	Due to human nature, money will pretty much always be around. True communism only works on a small scale. Unless a series blatantly says that money is gone, I tend to assume it's present, in one form or another. Humans will always seek to barter and trade with each other, and money makes that easier and smoother on a large scale.

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Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	I... don't think it normally weighs half a ton. Or for Bardiche to parry at all, it'd have to be in the same ballpark in weight, and Erio's carried it without problems.

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Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Remember. Magic.

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Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	I'm not excluding magic induced, temporary weight. But I think if it always weighted that much, Erio would have remarked on it.

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