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Rising Dragon · 2009-09-17, 16:38

I should point out that the Emperor simply used the Sakuradite as an excuse to go after Japan. What he really wanted was Kaminejima. Even if Japan hadn't been monopolizing the Sakuradite, Britannia would've invaded them.

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Originally Posted by FerrisWheel

Really killing Genbu was the lesser of two evils.

True, but try telling that to Suzaku.

FerrisWheel · 2009-09-17, 16:40

Eh,I think it would be difficult to tell any kid that killing thier dad was a good thing.

Yorae_paladin1 · 2009-09-17, 16:41

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Originally Posted by morbosfist

Fair enough. I forgot about that part. You're confused about parts, though. Once Britannia attacked, Genbu would have kept fighting, and sooner or later the Chinese Federation and the EU would have intervened. Then Japan would be torn apart by three warring factions. Aid had nothing to do with it. Also, Suzaku did Genbu in.

Genbu possibly believed he would get aid whether directly or indirectly sadly he didn't figure that aid has conditions if he accedes to one sides demands he would anger the other. And he can't play both sides either since the chinese federation and eu are not friends and taking control of the sakurudite is top priority for them. As for suzaku yeah in the anime what he did was wrong but i heard that the manga genbu was different to the point you might condone suzakus act

Rising Dragon · 2009-09-17, 16:44

Manga isn't canon though, so we really have no idea. After all, Code Geass is an Anime First anime, so any manga or novel wouldn't have precedence over the anime.

And Genbu wouldn't have believed he'd get aid. He wasn't that kind of person; he wasn't doing anything to negotiate the end of the war; he was too proud. He wouldn't have accepted their help. It would've been forced upon him.

Yorae_paladin1 · 2009-09-17, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Manga isn't canon though, so we really have no idea. After all, Code Geass is an Anime First anime, so any manga or novel wouldn't have precedence over the anime.

And Genbu wouldn't have believed he'd get aid. He wasn't that kind of person; he wasn't doing anything to negotiate the end of the war; he was too proud. He wouldn't have accepted their help. It would've been forced upon him.

Which is why i say he was blinded with patriotism and pride if he did not accept any aid his people would suffer. The resistance groups fought for the people but knew what they should do and what they shouldn't

morbosfist · 2009-09-17, 16:48

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Originally Posted by FerrisWheel

Really killing Genbu was the lesser of two evils.

As pointed out, try telling that to Suzaku. Suzaku wasn't thinking it through. He was thinking like a child who saw something bad and lashed out in order to stop it. There wasn't that much forethought behind it.

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Originally Posted by Yorae_paladin1

Genbu possibly believed he would get aid whether directly or indirectly sadly he didn't figure that aid has conditions if he accedes to one sides demands he would anger the other. And he can't play both sides either since the chinese federation and eu are not friends and taking control of the sakurudite is top priority for them. As for suzaku yeah in the anime what he did was wrong but i heard that the manga genbu was different to the point you might condone suzakus act

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Originally Posted by Yorae_paladin1

Which is why i say he was blinded with patriotism and pride if he did not accept any aid his people would suffer. The resistance groups fought for the people but knew what they should do and what they shouldn't

Aid wasn't coming and he knew it. The point was to fight to the bitter end, because none of the powers would come to his aid. It's not about not accepting it, it's that it just wasn't being offered. Neither the EU or Chinese Federation would get involved. They had treaties to uphold.

bladeofdarkness · 2009-09-17, 18:19

in the past two pages
lelouch's name gets mentioned a total of 4 times (as in, in four different posts, not including quotes)
this is NOT the right thread for this discussion

ImmortalFire · 2009-09-17, 20:09

Yeah, seems more fitting in the Suzaku discussion thread.

Paladinoras · 2009-09-17, 23:29

Lol, this board often goes into OOT discussions on the wrong thread. Seriously. Not that it is a bad thing.

ImmortalFire · 2009-09-17, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Paladinoras

Lol, this board often goes into OOT discussions on the wrong thread. Seriously. Not that it is a bad thing.

Yeah, I've noticed, lol.
But it really seems easy to get rerailed. One subject leads to another and before you know it your talking about something completely out of topic.

Speaking of which, we should get back on topic.

Paladinoras · 2009-09-17, 23:52

Indeed.

Hmm, I can't think of any good Lelouch topics.

Did they ever discuss his Knightmare handling skills? I thought it was not half bad, considering he is not talented like Suzaku or Kallen.

Rising Dragon · 2009-09-17, 23:53

He trained himself using the Ganymede during all of the festivals that involved the pizza. I think that's all that's known about his KMF skills.

ImmortalFire · 2009-09-17, 23:54

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Originally Posted by Paladinoras

Indeed.

Hmm, I can't think of any good Lelouch topics.

Did they ever discuss his Knightmare handling skills? I thought it was not half bad, considering he is not talented like Suzaku or Kallen.

I dont know if they did, but I wouldnt look through the thread, lol.

He had decent skills with knightmares. And in a knightmare like Gawain he could really do lots of damage (of course C.C. was piloting with him)
But in the Shinkiro he was able to do good as well.

Paladinoras · 2009-09-17, 23:58

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

He trained himself using the Ganymede during all of the festivals that involved the pizza. I think that's all that's known about his KMF skills.

Yeah, I suppose, but when he is using the Shinkirou, I dun think he was piloting it, more of typing crap on a keyboard, doing calculations. Seems that everytime he tried to attack with the Shinkirou.. it epic failed.

Rising Dragon · 2009-09-18, 00:15

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Originally Posted by Paladinoras

Yeah, I suppose, but when he is using the Shinkirou, I dun think he was piloting it, more of typing crap on a keyboard, doing calculations. Seems that everytime he tried to attack with the Shinkirou.. it epic failed.

First laser fire, Siegfried's destruction shot, and Gino-counterattack disagrees with you, good sir.

morbosfist · 2009-09-18, 03:17

Also, the typing is piloting, sorta. There are control sticks for direct movement, but using the shield wall and beam spam is a better use of its talents.

bladeofdarkness · 2009-09-18, 04:15

the whole POINT of the shinkiro is to cover up for his poor piloting skills
he's a thinker, not a pilot
and when he was piloting a burai, there was exactly one battle that it didnt get destroyed in, and thats because it wasnt actually fighting at the time, AND had kallen acting as his bodyguard (she blocked an attack aimed at him)
the gawein was powerful, but only when it was at an overwhelming advantage against any potential enemies (flying, and blasting with the hadron cannon)
once it was on the ground fighting, it almost got overwhelmed by cornellia in a glochester

Laurcus · 2009-09-18, 04:49

Am I the only one that though the Shinkiro wasn't as cool as the Gawain? Sure the Shinkiro protects Lelouch better, but I kinda would have liked to see an actual Gawain mk2.

I'm thinking a 9th gen KMF with the same type of shield as the Shinkiro but with a super upgraded hadron cannon that's similar to the Gawain's hadron. I can just imagine Lelouch owning tons of things with his new secret weapon laughing like a madman!

bladeofdarkness · 2009-09-18, 05:00

you cant use the shields and weapon systems at the same time
and since lelouch cant dodge for shit, all it would take is one enemy at close range, and lelouch can only defend
which drains the energy evetually

Rising Dragon · 2009-09-18, 12:15

All it'd take is one Tristan Divider. >.>

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Manga isn't canon though, so we really have no idea. After all, Code Geass is an Anime First anime, so any manga or novel wouldn't have precedence over the anime. And Genbu wouldn't have believed he'd get aid. He wasn't that kind of person; he wasn't doing anything to negotiate the end of the war; he was too proud. He wouldn't have accepted their help. It would've been forced upon him. __________________

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bladeofdarkness Um-Shmum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts Age: 39	in the past two pages lelouch's name gets mentioned a total of 4 times (as in, in four different posts, not including quotes) this is NOT the right thread for this discussion __________________

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Paladinoras Pancakes Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In Your House. No, really, look properly.	Indeed. Hmm, I can't think of any good Lelouch topics. Did they ever discuss his Knightmare handling skills? I thought it was not half bad, considering he is not talented like Suzaku or Kallen. __________________ Credit to Godlike1889 for the sig!

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	He trained himself using the Ganymede during all of the festivals that involved the pizza. I think that's all that's known about his KMF skills. __________________

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FerrisWheel Earl of Cookies Author Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lala Land Age: 32	Eh,I think it would be difficult to tell any kid that killing thier dad was a good thing.

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morbosfist Spinning Lotus Join Date: Jul 2008	Also, the typing is piloting, sorta. There are control sticks for direct movement, but using the shield wall and beam spam is a better use of its talents. __________________

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bladeofdarkness Um-Shmum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts Age: 39	the whole POINT of the shinkiro is to cover up for his poor piloting skills he's a thinker, not a pilot and when he was piloting a burai, there was exactly one battle that it didnt get destroyed in, and thats because it wasnt actually fighting at the time, AND had kallen acting as his bodyguard (she blocked an attack aimed at him) the gawein was powerful, but only when it was at an overwhelming advantage against any potential enemies (flying, and blasting with the hadron cannon) once it was on the ground fighting, it almost got overwhelmed by cornellia in a glochester __________________

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Laurcus The black angel Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Dalaran making laps around the city.	Am I the only one that though the Shinkiro wasn't as cool as the Gawain? Sure the Shinkiro protects Lelouch better, but I kinda would have liked to see an actual Gawain mk2. I'm thinking a 9th gen KMF with the same type of shield as the Shinkiro but with a super upgraded hadron cannon that's similar to the Gawain's hadron. I can just imagine Lelouch owning tons of things with his new secret weapon laughing like a madman!

2009-09-18, 05:00	Link #5579
bladeofdarkness Um-Shmum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts Age: 39	you cant use the shields and weapon systems at the same time and since lelouch cant dodge for shit, all it would take is one enemy at close range, and lelouch can only defend which drains the energy evetually __________________

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	All it'd take is one Tristan Divider. >.> __________________