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Will Wright · 2010-10-31, 20:06

Just because all things he saw really happened, IT DOESN'T MEAN ALL THINGS HE SAW WERE SHOWN TO THE READER!

THEREFORE BATTLER IS EVA'S ACCOMPLICE.

...You know I really wouldn't be surprised at something like that.

EDIT:

Battler is Beatrice. Beatrice isn't the killer. Beatrice is the accomplice. Twisted red! What? It makes as much sense as Shkanon!

TehChron · 2010-10-31, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will Wright

Just because all things he saw really happened, IT DOESN'T MEAN ALL THINGS HE SAW WERE SHOWN TO THE READER!

THEREFORE BATTLER IS EVA'S ACCOMPLICE.

...You know I really wouldn't be surprised at something like that.

EDIT:

Battler is Beatrice. Beatrice isn't the killer. Beatrice is the accomplice. Twisted red! What? It makes as much sense as Shkanon!

No it doesn't.

Shkanon allows us all to maintain our shipping. And Battlertrice just makes Battler into the ultimate narcissist, who, so unsatisfied with the women of the world, decides to become the woman of his dreams.

God that is disturbing.

Renall · 2010-10-31, 20:46

And also kind of awesome. Mostly I just like the idea for Battler suddenly turning into Beatrice in personality terms. Like some sort of Witch Club or something.

UsagiTenpura · 2010-10-31, 21:24

If anything Battlertrice makes the meta world easy to explain.

Edit: Then again who's to say Battler isn't just another furniture.
Or the whole Ushiromiya family and the island itself for that matter...

AuraTwilight · 2010-10-31, 23:09

Battler never returned to Rokkenjima. Crushed over this, Shkannontrice created a Battler personality and became Battler. Battler, Shannon, Kanon, and Beatrice are all the same person.

Spoiler for EP7:

TehChron · 2010-11-01, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuraTwilight

Battler never returned to Rokkenjima. Crushed over this, Shkannontrice created a Battler personality and became Battler. Battler, Shannon, Kanon, and Beatrice are all the same person.

Spoiler for EP7:

Oh wow that would be epic.

AuraTwilight · 2010-11-01, 00:46

As for why Battler can be seen in the same room as one of the other three...

...

Fight Club.

And yes, Jessica and George are 100% aware of all this. Battler's just that much of a stud.

Renall · 2010-11-01, 08:20

Also, the -trice created Battler is an idealized version of the perfect man just like Beatrice is the idealization of Battler's perfect woman. Everyone remarks at how tall and strong Battler has become, but that's because the ultimate counter-narcissist has invented his present image. The real Battler is short and scrawny.

Well... okay, that's not very likely.

AuraTwilight · 2010-11-01, 13:44

Battler and Beatrice created each other to be each other's simultaneous ultimate fantasy, and they exist in the mind of someone who is neither Battler nor Beatrice.

Shkanon has a voyeur fetish.

Cao Ni Ma · 2010-11-01, 13:47

Battler's fears of boats are a testament of a horrible accident that cost him his life. The person is just acting out Battler's fear as foreshadow of the inevitable conclusion

LyricalAura · 2010-11-01, 14:52

He must have fallen off a pleasure boat in a typhoon. Wearing his bathing suit.

AuraTwilight · 2010-11-01, 17:32

Well, I've already speculated that Beatrice and Erika could be the same person.

So Battler is Erika.

Meaning Battler raped himself. After growing bitter that his boyfriend cheated on him.

LyricalAura · 2010-11-01, 17:40

Didn't he say somewhere in the first four games that his first crush was a boy?

Cao Ni Ma · 2010-11-01, 17:42

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Originally Posted by LyricalAura

Didn't he say somewhere in the first four games that his first crush was a boy?

It was himself, he is the biggest narcissist.

AuraTwilight · 2010-11-01, 18:08

He cheated on himself with himself so out of bitterness he raped himself and then created himself as an ideal perfect woman with himself.

God, Battlertrice is awesome.

TehChron · 2010-11-01, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuraTwilight

He cheated on himself with himself so out of bitterness he raped himself and then created himself as an ideal perfect woman with himself.

God, Battlertrice is awesome.

Indeed it is.

AuraTwilight · 2010-11-01, 18:42

We need Shroedinger to draw a picture of psycho Battler in Beatrice's dress, playing with a bunch of Rokkenjima puppets. "yes....I am EVERYONE! And now we shall Rondo the Mystery Waltz~!"

And it turns out that all of Umineko has been him playing with puppets.

Redriel · 2010-11-01, 19:17

He is the Narcissist Sorcerer

TehChron · 2010-11-01, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuraTwilight

We need Shroedinger to draw a picture of psycho Battler in Beatrice's dress, playing with a bunch of Rokkenjima puppets. "yes....I am EVERYONE! And now we shall Rondo the Mystery Waltz~!"

And it turns out that all of Umineko has been him playing with puppets.

That would be beautiful. I wonder if he browses these forums?

delita-umw- · 2010-11-01, 19:46

What hast this thread wrought?! The most awesome theory of them all?

2010-10-31, 20:46	Link #5003
Renall BUY MY BOOK!!! Join Date: May 2009	And also kind of awesome. Mostly I just like the idea for Battler suddenly turning into Beatrice in personality terms. Like some sort of Witch Club or something. __________________ Redaction of the Golden Witch I submit that a murder was committed in 1996. This murder was a "copycat" crime inspired by our tales of 1986. This story is a redacted confession. Blog (VN DL) - YouTube Playlists Battler Solves The Logic Error

2010-10-31, 23:09	Link #5005
AuraTwilight The True Culprit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Golden Land	Battler never returned to Rokkenjima. Crushed over this, Shkannontrice created a Battler personality and became Battler. Battler, Shannon, Kanon, and Beatrice are all the same person. Spoiler for EP7: And that's why Battler doesn't return in Lion's world. __________________ When the Silent Spirits Cry: An Umineko/Silent Hill crossover fanfiction http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4565173&postcount=531

2010-11-01, 00:46	Link #5007
AuraTwilight The True Culprit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Golden Land	As for why Battler can be seen in the same room as one of the other three... ... Fight Club. And yes, Jessica and George are 100% aware of all this. Battler's just that much of a stud. __________________ When the Silent Spirits Cry: An Umineko/Silent Hill crossover fanfiction http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4565173&postcount=531

2010-11-01, 08:20	Link #5008
Renall BUY MY BOOK!!! Join Date: May 2009	Also, the -trice created Battler is an idealized version of the perfect man just like Beatrice is the idealization of Battler's perfect woman. Everyone remarks at how tall and strong Battler has become, but that's because the ultimate counter-narcissist has invented his present image. The real Battler is short and scrawny. Well... okay, that's not very likely. __________________ Redaction of the Golden Witch I submit that a murder was committed in 1996. This murder was a "copycat" crime inspired by our tales of 1986. This story is a redacted confession. Blog (VN DL) - YouTube Playlists Battler Solves The Logic Error

2010-11-01, 13:44	Link #5009
AuraTwilight The True Culprit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Golden Land	Battler and Beatrice created each other to be each other's simultaneous ultimate fantasy, and they exist in the mind of someone who is neither Battler nor Beatrice. Shkanon has a voyeur fetish. __________________ When the Silent Spirits Cry: An Umineko/Silent Hill crossover fanfiction http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4565173&postcount=531

2010-10-31, 20:06	Link #5001
Will Wright Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010	Just because all things he saw really happened, IT DOESN'T MEAN ALL THINGS HE SAW WERE SHOWN TO THE READER! THEREFORE BATTLER IS EVA'S ACCOMPLICE. ...You know I really wouldn't be surprised at something like that. EDIT: Battler is Beatrice. Beatrice isn't the killer. Beatrice is the accomplice. Twisted red! What? It makes as much sense as Shkanon!

2010-10-31, 21:24	Link #5004
UsagiTenpura Artist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Yesterday!	If anything Battlertrice makes the meta world easy to explain. Edit: Then again who's to say Battler isn't just another furniture. Or the whole Ushiromiya family and the island itself for that matter...

2010-11-01, 13:47	Link #5010
Cao Ni Ma Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Battler's fears of boats are a testament of a horrible accident that cost him his life. The person is just acting out Battler's fear as foreshadow of the inevitable conclusion

2010-11-01, 14:52	Link #5011
LyricalAura Dea ex Kakera Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sea of Fragments	He must have fallen off a pleasure boat in a typhoon. Wearing his bathing suit. __________________ "Something has fallen on us that falls very seldom on men; perhaps the worst thing that can fall on them. We have found the truth; and the truth makes no sense."

2010-11-01, 17:32	Link #5012
AuraTwilight The True Culprit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Golden Land	Well, I've already speculated that Beatrice and Erika could be the same person. So Battler is Erika. Meaning Battler raped himself. After growing bitter that his boyfriend cheated on him. __________________ When the Silent Spirits Cry: An Umineko/Silent Hill crossover fanfiction http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4565173&postcount=531

2010-11-01, 17:40	Link #5013
LyricalAura Dea ex Kakera Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sea of Fragments	Didn't he say somewhere in the first four games that his first crush was a boy? __________________ "Something has fallen on us that falls very seldom on men; perhaps the worst thing that can fall on them. We have found the truth; and the truth makes no sense."

2010-11-01, 18:08	Link #5015
AuraTwilight The True Culprit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Golden Land	He cheated on himself with himself so out of bitterness he raped himself and then created himself as an ideal perfect woman with himself. God, Battlertrice is awesome. __________________ When the Silent Spirits Cry: An Umineko/Silent Hill crossover fanfiction http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4565173&postcount=531

2010-11-01, 18:42	Link #5017
AuraTwilight The True Culprit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Golden Land	We need Shroedinger to draw a picture of psycho Battler in Beatrice's dress, playing with a bunch of Rokkenjima puppets. "yes....I am EVERYONE! And now we shall Rondo the Mystery Waltz~!" And it turns out that all of Umineko has been him playing with puppets. __________________ When the Silent Spirits Cry: An Umineko/Silent Hill crossover fanfiction http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4565173&postcount=531

2010-11-01, 19:17	Link #5018
Redriel Chaos Sorcerer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Meta-World	He is the Narcissist Sorcerer

2010-11-01, 19:46	Link #5020
delita-umw- Wild Speculator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: 13th Hierarchical City Kagutsuchi	What hast this thread wrought?! The most awesome theory of them all?