2009-12-09, 23:02 | Link #6443 |
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I think they have to be physically within the area, and even then I think it's onyl a sixth sense saying they have a geass. I don't think the details are actually given to the Code-bearer on the geass' limitations and powers.
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2009-12-10, 11:10 | Link #6445 | |
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1. The use of floodlights and Akatsukis during the betrayal. 2. The mention of the goggles being worn during the UFN summit. 3. The sealed chamber in the council room. Viletta also knew that a Geass symbol will appear in a person's eyes when their Geass is active, which was another reason for having all the cameras in Ashford and the comment about Lelouch having no opportunities to use his Geass. From here, the one use limit could be proven as follows: 1. Lelouch tells the BK that his Geass can't be shut off and proves it by removing the contacts to demonstrate. 2. Lelouch tells the BK of the one use limit. 3. Lelouch has one BK soldier sent to him so that he may Geass them to do something stupid while the others watch as insurance. 4. With the cameras looking at Lelouch's eyes to make sure he doesn't turn off his Geass as he does so, Lelouch then orders the BK soldier to kill him right there. 5. Rather than comply, the BK stands there. 6. Profit. As for Viletta, what Lelouch was saying to her when he blackmailed her into serving him was for the audience's benifit in giving us the "official" reason why Viletta was serving as a teacher when she had been made a Baroness. While it is never outright stated that Viletta was made aware of the one use limit, the fact that she was made into a teacher at all suggests that part of the reason she was put there was due to the knowledge that she could no longer be Geassed. Think out it: If only Lelouch knew of the one use limit, then why would Charles send Viletta at all? Why would she be acting as a teacher, rather than sitting in the base all day, (she could still have an alias if she needed to run up top and grab Lelouch)? Why not send one of the Directorate cultists to fill her spot? Why not let Viletta run of to live in luxury in the mainland? Why not thank her for a job well done and then kill her to make sure the secret of Geass remained a secret? |
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2009-12-10, 15:45 | Link #6446 | ||||
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2 & 3) These occur after Schneizel has talked to the BK, as well as after Kallen is back with them after the betrayel. Between Schneizel's research and Kallen who was close to Lelouch, it is very possible the information came from them. If Villetta knew before the betrayal, she obviously didn't say anything or was wrong on what she knew. Quote:
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So you don't like the "official" explanation from Lelouch and substitute your own in that has no backing? The "official" statement makes sense because 1) As I said earlier, Villetta discovered Zero's identity in season 1, and knew the most out of the entire Britannia army. It makes sense for her to take this job as she still feels the need to gain honor amongst the ranks in Britannia. 2) The teaching aspect gets her closer to Lelouch to observe him. It also gives her an excuse to be able to freely travel around the campus and participate in events where Lelouch might be. 3) Villetta had an inspiration to try teaching after her encounter with Oghi in which he talks about teaching before the war... and turn 25.01 still shows her teaching at Ashford. |
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2009-12-10, 16:04 | Link #6447 |
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Lelouch sees Mao's geass active
the geass symbol seems to be a visible thing and again, Lelouch can prove he cant switch it off by showing that he has contact lenses to cover it up and can show that he can give orders to someone without them reacting to it (if they were geassed before) if you keep trying to nitpick there would NEVER be a perfect way ever but the fact that the test suggested would WORK and is very possible, means that Lelouch has a very good way of proving he didnt use his geass on them P.S 2&3 being after the betrayal is irrelevent, sicne the test is proposed to take place AFTER lelouch takes over britannia
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2009-12-10, 16:19 | Link #6448 | |
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As for the seeing Geass part, I lost the part when copying the quotes around where I wanted to say that only those with Geass or Codes have ever been shown to see other people's geass. No normal person has ever been shown noticing a geass in an eye. As for nitpicking? Maybe that was the point to show how too easily you guys make it sound in that he could convince them. Basically from what you guys say, I could take a gun, fill it with blanks, and tell everyone "Hey look, this guns doesn't hurt people when I shoot it." I try it out for them, and later, I put real bullets in it. That is how Lelouch's geass is. The BK don't know what powers geass (bullets), they just know it is fired (like out of the barrel of the gun.) However, you can't dissect Lelouch's head and show that he is telling the truth about the limitations, just like if you don't get your hands on the gun I demonstrated, you can't get it open to see if it is properly put together or if the bullets were blank or not. P.S.: I'm sorry nitpicking means going against your over simplistic 'peace' ideas. |
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2009-12-10, 16:29 | Link #6449 | ||
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they know that direct eye contact is the key, and they know what geass looks like (at least villeta does, since she was put in charge of searching for it) and you dont have to be sorry about nitpicking ruining my simple peace idea because it doesn't really do that (at best, it proves that trust building would require more then just a geass test) you DO have to be sorry about the fact that the conclusion of zero-requiem with zero coming in and saving everyone requires even MORE trust on the black knights part then my proposal does since it requires the black knights, cornellia and villeta to just accept another person coming in wearing the mask and saying "i'm zero" without demanding to know who he is "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"
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2009-12-10, 16:52 | Link #6451 | |
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read the proposed test
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2009-12-10, 17:00 | Link #6453 |
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we're talking AFTER he became emperor
he isnt telling shnizel anything he is telling the black knights that he didnt use geass on them in order to try and rebuild their trust in him teh whole point is to create a scenario in which lelouch, as emperor, can bring about world peace WITHOUT having to do zero-requiem (that is, no conquering the world and becoming a mass murderer) shnizel would have to be dealt with, but attacking the UFN is something lelouch does needlessly and foolishly instead of forming an alliance against shnizel, he end up having to fight both the UFN forces AND shnize at the same time
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2009-12-10, 17:01 | Link #6454 |
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That's more info, and Lelouch knows Schneizel knows about Geass but not how much.\
It's not worth the risk to find out, how can you expect to prove without unveiling his weaknesses. Even then, that doens't mean they will let him go. That does not mean anybody will let him go. |
2009-12-10, 17:06 | Link #6455 |
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we are NOT talking ep 19 here we are talking ep 22 as in AFTER lelouch is emperor and he does not tell shnizel anything, he is telling the black knights about his geass weakness in order to regain their trust how does shnizel even factor into this in your mind
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2009-12-10, 17:08 | Link #6456 |
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It's not worth the risk to find out.
Even then, that doens't mean they will let him go. That does not mean anybody will let him go. What would they do if they knew more info? Tell to the entire world, that would make things worse. Wouldn't this be Rebellion 4 counting the BK as R3? There, is that good enough. |
2009-12-10, 17:11 | Link #6457 |
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let him go where ?
what are you talking about lelouch isnt the black knights prisoner lelouch is emperor of britannia he calls the UFN up and says "i want to make peace" the people of the UFN agree, with the only group of people who suspect lelouch being the black knights leadership this is a way for him to get the black knights leadership on HIS side again the rest of the world needs not know anything about geass i dont get what you are saying are you suggesting the black knights are working the shnizel ?
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2009-12-10, 17:14 | Link #6460 |
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Are you an idiot?
Schneizel can still get rid of Lelouch by political ways (Electric Chair, Rebellion within Britannia, etc...) thanks to Villeta, Suzaku, etc... , and it's not just Schneizel. Schneizel will ruin Lelouch's life as much as possible. Imagine the entire world against Lelouch at that point. |
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