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The process I mentioned is actually from a video of the production of One Piece anime, I couldn't find the video again though. Generally the process would be similar for most, but different studios would adopt different orders and methods of production. Some times animation studios can even decide to hire people for specialised jobs, like digitally tracing hand drawn frames, if they could afford that then the traditional animators could stay and hand draw frames. One famous example of animators trying to adapt to CG was in FLCL, where they mentioned in the anime itself that they spent a long time and budget experimenting with CG animating that they couldn't afford it for episode 2 onwards. They only brought CG back in the last episode, specifically they used it for the manga panel scenes in episode 1 and 6. Quote:
I'm not sure if there are or will be programs that adds wriggling lines, but I'm sure it could be done. If a certain director demands wriggling lines in the digital animation, a programmer could get the job done. though something similar have been done with tablet drawn frames, especially if they are drawn sketchily. Quote:
Indeed its a different type of writing and comedy is a big thing in the west which they tend to use alot in animation. Good comedy also requires clever writing and animating as well as audience who understands comedy. And to understand comedy, the audience doesn't only need to understand context but also neurologically they need to have certain developed cortices to process comedy. There are probably genes that directly affect understanding of comedy, genes very likely affect taste as well.
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(I agree the discussion has derailed though the off-topic posts are useful posts for another topic)
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2012-03-22, 11:56 | Link #186 |
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You know I got a question about those design trends in action shonen manga. Granted, it doesn't apply to every action but I noticed that in the 80s, most action heroes have muscles that have muscles and even some women have muscle some them. I noticed that over time the design turned is more over to androgyny where the men are slim and pretty looking. It may be just me but does anyone notice this?
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2012-03-22, 12:22 | Link #187 |
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The shift may have started from the mid 1990s, notably when Tetsuya Nomura of Final Fantasy fame grew to proeminence. In the figthing game genre, SNK opposed line-ups of pretty boys to Capcom's burly men or freaks. But yeah, the mid 90s seems to be the turning point where men gets prettied up.
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2012-03-24, 22:32 | Link #188 |
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I'm finally getting around to watching this one:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=24119 It's nice having a taste of the 80's once in a while.
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2012-03-24, 23:18 | Link #189 |
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Did anyone see the article about the personal trainer who gained 70 pounds and is now working it off, all in an exercise to better understand his clients? It was featured in a few news outlets, but here's the CNN article. It's an interesting story in itself, but the article also discusses the ideal male physique. Supposedly, a heavier frame (read: fat) was desirable in the '50s because it was a sign of wealth, and then at some point the muscled look took over. They say that at the present, the slim, toned look of swimmers is what's considered desirable.
Some people talked about how designs from the '80s had males pumped with muscles, whereas designs of today have more "effeminate," slender designs. I'd guess that there are multiple reasons for that, but society's concept of the ideal body image has been changing along with it, and they seem pretty well synchronized. I'm sure there are similar shifts in the ideal body form, too. Consider that around the 1920's, one of the idealized forms of women was to diminish the curves as viewed from the front - that's in huge contrast to what we have today, where the curves are accentuated and augmented. It's interesting to consider that sex sells, but what society considers sexually appealing changes with time.
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2012-03-25, 11:13 | Link #191 | |
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I also tend to prefer more *proportional* character designs. I tend to not like the proportions those characters have if they're under 6 heads tall. I only really got into the Negima manga when the character design started to shift to proportionally taller designs. Face wise? I suppose I can deal with the more simplistic anime facial designs, but...I tend to like designs that still focus on a bit more solid facial structure. Female characters getting more simplified faces is ok, but REALLY! Can we remember that they still have noses instead of barely noticeable dots? Spoiler for Character designs I like:
I am going to hunt you down and comically explode you until your hair turns into an afro.
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2012-03-25, 12:41 | Link #192 | |
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In a way, the concept of the ideal man having gargantuan muscles isn't much different than the idea that the ideal woman has breasts that are larger than a person's head. The muscle idealization fell out of style, and based on an increase in various comments that I come across, I'm starting to wonder if we're on the verge of a backlash against oversized breasts, too. Perhaps society will always fluctuate between desiring natural and altered body forms between generations, or as trends grow stale.
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2012-03-25, 12:54 | Link #193 |
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Please tell me that there's already a post that just said it comes down to whatever you are used to? Like in, any art form? And that discussions over which art forms outside of a technical POV are kind of moot? Please?
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2012-03-25, 13:14 | Link #194 | |
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And big-eyed moe K-On! as well as "bug people" L*S and 'old style' Azumanga Daioh .... or realism like Eve no Jikan, Kurozuka. or bishie style like Youkai Otome Zakuro... watercolor like Honey&Clover, etc. Frankly, the premise of the thread is quite shaky...
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2012-03-25, 20:18 | Link #195 | |
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So the OP starts off the thread saying oh this anime is so ugly in my eyes.... but what's the point if all anime was pretty... by pretty I mean pretty in your standards. If all anime was pretty then they would all look similar which means it makes anime as a whole more boring and less diverse. so maybe you should be grateful there's variety of drawing styles so that everyone with their own tastes can enjoy whatever animation they like. So basically the world doesn't revolve around you? Being pretty isn't everything in real life and in anime. Pretty anime CAN be bad sometimes when the prettiness encroaches on the anime like if in an attempt to make everything look pretty by the animators all the characters look the same ie crappy harem anime and clannad... or it just kills the mood of the anime (if it's horror or thriller etc). character design is like everything else... there needs to be a balance. they can't be so damn focused on making stuff look pretty.
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