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GN0010 Nosferatu · 2012-03-18, 08:55

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Originally Posted by -Sho-

My sweet moment with Tali at Rannoch <3 That was beautiful with the sun !
Then i saw her photo <3
Then i saw an article about her photo -.-
Come on Bioware.... now i'm angry.... they knew that Tali's face was a major event in the game and they didn't care about it.... so dissapoint...
And something bother me , how could she takes a photo ?

There's a reason they call it the "omni-tool".

Keroko · 2012-03-18, 09:04

The worst thing about the photo for me is not the whole photoshop debacle, but that it's such a lazy way to handle a revelation that many gamers have been waiting for.

Now, many here will know that I've always been a firm supporter of not revealing Tali's face, since the secret behind the helmet is one of the quarian's defining characteristics as a race, both in universe and out. However, I've also always supported that if they chose to reveal Tali's face, it should be a moment where time is taken to focus on it.

Rannoch would have been ideal for that, really. All they had to do was show Tali's face there, and the scene would have worked.

-Sho- · 2012-03-18, 09:15

Dat pick

Spoiler for Pic:

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Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

There's a reason they call it the "omni-tool".

Yeah lol but she was outside on a planet without a suit on.

killer3000ad · 2012-03-18, 09:32

Ouch the California Literary Review has some harsh words for ME3.

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Without giving anything away, (directly, as all subsequent links will contain some spoilers) the ending, by which I mean the final five to ten minutes, of Mass Effect 3 is easily the worst finale I’ve seen compared to the preceding quality that came before it – in any medium. At literally every level, it’s objectively terrible.

Sloppy execution that reuses art assets reveals that it’s a hurried inclusion. The under thought and over pretentious dialogue does nothing but create bizarre, confusing plot holes. It even commits the same sin The Devil Inside did earlier this year, and has the gall to add an advertisement by the producers at the end of the credits, which is frankly insulting.

Far more importantly though, it betrays key themes and values well established by the series thus far. Past player choice impacting the shape of events is negated in favor of an arbitrary and poorly explained “pick your favorite color” moment. Science fiction justification in an otherwise material world is abandoned for magical deism, since quite literally, a god in a machine appears. Unification through altruism and sacrifice is thrown out for pure nihilism: each of the choices you’re forced to make results in Shepard committing some level of genocide or another, with the benefits removed from any relatable emotional touchstone to the intangible space of far flung statistics. It even manages to make The Reapers, one of the more imposing forces of antagonism in recent memory, come across as foolish pawns.

FlareKnight · 2012-03-18, 10:06

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Originally Posted by killer3000ad

Ouch the California Literary Review has some harsh words for ME3.

I have to say that was a good review. It covers the positives in the game which still exist regardless of how it ends. But it was also right that a horrible ending can tarnish the whole experience. The ending really does demand a review score to drop pretty solidly.

Kyero Fox · 2012-03-18, 10:45

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Originally Posted by Keroko

The worst thing about the photo for me is not the whole photoshop debacle, but that it's such a lazy way to handle a revelation that many gamers have been waiting for.

Now, many here will know that I've always been a firm supporter of not revealing Tali's face, since the secret behind the helmet is one of the quarian's defining characteristics as a race, both in universe and out. However, I've also always supported that if they chose to reveal Tali's face, it should be a moment where time is taken to focus on it.

Rannoch would have been ideal for that, really. All they had to do was show Tali's face there, and the scene would have worked.

they even have the balls to say that they watched deviantart for ideas. which, I can give them a few very good ideas from that site. But they were bullshitting us, they didn't put any effort into it.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2012-03-18, 10:59

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Originally Posted by Kyral

Ice Cream :3

Spoiler for Happy End :

From what I hear that website had sold itself out to EA and heavily critizes the fans for not been appreciating about the ending.

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they even have the balls to say that they watched deviantart for ideas. which, I can give them a few very good ideas from that site. But they were bullshitting us, they didn't put any effort into it.

On one hand it'd make sense to go through the net, find the right picture, and then draw that picture "based" off on that. I mean that's usually what you do. The Cerebus centurions for example were based off of Bomb disposal outfits.

Oh wait they didn't, they just grabbed some photo off the net. I wonder if that's copy-right infringement? It's one thing for us to post pictures here but they are using it for their own company's purposes. I'm surprised there's not much of an outroar over that. You might as well not do it at all.

The Stargazer scene was also apparently copied from a music album too.

That's just plain ridiculous.

killer3000ad · 2012-03-18, 11:44

Me thinks they just ran out of time.

Spoiler:

Keroko · 2012-03-18, 12:01

Again, the photoshopping isn't my main problem with it. A problem? Yeah, but not my main problem. My main problem is that they chose to reveal her face with a photo rather than actually have Tali take of her helmet to show her face in-game.

Ak3mi · 2012-03-18, 12:22

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Originally Posted by killer3000ad

Me thinks they just ran out of time.

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Thats so ergh, bioware

Nightengale · 2012-03-18, 12:34

The best thing about the Winter Space scene?

Take a good close look at the child.

Spoiler:

Kyral · 2012-03-18, 12:37

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

From what I hear that website had sold itself out to EA and heavily critizes the fans for not been appreciating about the ending

I don't care. I just thought it was a nice ME3 strip like the Fabulous/Saiyan/Friendship ending strip from NerfNow.

killer3000ad · 2012-03-18, 13:40

If Bioware wrote the ending for LOTR.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/5116/rsauv.jpg

Keroko · 2012-03-18, 13:57

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

From what I hear that website had sold itself out to EA and heavily critizes the fans for not been appreciating about the ending.

Then whoever told you that needs to re-read what the owners of that site said.

They didn't criticize fans for not been appreciating about the ending, they criticized the idea that Bioware is somehow beyond criticism. Which is the exact opposite.

Kyero Fox · 2012-03-18, 14:18

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Originally Posted by killer3000ad

If Bioware wrote the ending for LOTR.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/5116/rsauv.jpg

Hahaha, I can't stop laughing about that XD my dad called and was wonderin why i was laughing, I couldn't tell him because he'd think i'm crazy.

Drake · 2012-03-18, 14:38

Just finished my first playthough (full paragon with 6500k assets and 99% readiness) and was utterly crushed by the endings.

Spoiler for spoiler:

npal · 2012-03-18, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Nightengale

The best thing about the Winter Space scene?

Take a good close look at the child.

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No wonder it seemed weird to begin with.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2012-03-18, 14:43

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Originally Posted by Keroko

Then whoever told you that needs to re-read what the owners of that site said.

They didn't criticize fans for not been appreciating about the ending, they criticized the idea that Bioware is somehow beyond criticism. Which is the exact opposite.

Oye that's even worse.

There's no such thing as anything being beyond criticism.

Keroko · 2012-03-18, 15:09

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

Oye that's even worse.

There's no such thing as anything being beyond criticism.

Yes, and thats what that site said as well.

-Sho- · 2012-03-18, 21:48

Finally finished the game with 38hours , 7000+ militaries strength on Insane difficulty(except the first mission which was on Hard difficulty)
I took my times to listen to people , read news codex , looking at the background , and i did all quests except Kasumi's one which was bugged... & another one.

Well , everything was already said so i'll just say that -F U Bioware- & ofc EA
They choose the simplicity with nonsense endings.... & at least make a longer cinematic...
Well , i'm done with this series. Even though there'll be ME4 , 5 , 6..... i won't play it , and same for DA , or whatever Bioware is making. They take us for good sheeps.
Too bad , the universe was interesting enough.

Oh and i choose to kill Reapers & all synthetics -RIP- EDI , sorry Joker...

Btw last boss was epic :

Spoiler for Last boss:

2012-03-18, 11:44	Link #2448
killer3000ad Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Age: 41	Me thinks they just ran out of time. Spoiler: __________________

2012-03-18, 12:34	Link #2451
Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	The best thing about the Winter Space scene? Take a good close look at the child. Spoiler: You won't be able to unsee an adult body model shrunk in size. __________________ *Night~and~Gale: ~ The Final Mythology of the Man who Defied Destiny.* The sleeping lion shall awaken beyond the depths of time, crossing ten billion lights, come to Terra.

2012-03-18, 13:40	Link #2453
killer3000ad Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Age: 41	If Bioware wrote the ending for LOTR. http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/5116/rsauv.jpg __________________ Last edited by killer3000ad; 2012-03-18 at 13:50.

2012-03-18, 14:38	Link #2456
Drake dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Ireland	Just finished my first playthough (full paragon with 6500k assets and 99% readiness) and was utterly crushed by the endings. Spoiler for spoiler: It doesn't really bother me that shep died in all of them minus the destroy option but would it have killed them to have at least make an ending that made sense. __________________

2012-03-18, 21:48	Link #2460
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	Finally finished the game with 38hours , 7000+ militaries strength on Insane difficulty(except the first mission which was on Hard difficulty) I took my times to listen to people , read news codex , looking at the background , and i did all quests except Kasumi's one which was bugged... & another one. Well , everything was already said so i'll just say that -F U Bioware- & ofc EA They choose the simplicity with nonsense endings.... & at least make a longer cinematic... Well , i'm done with this series. Even though there'll be ME4 , 5 , 6..... i won't play it , and same for DA , or whatever Bioware is making. They take us for good sheeps. Too bad , the universe was interesting enough. Oh and i choose to kill Reapers & all synthetics -RIP- EDI , sorry Joker... Btw last boss was epic : Spoiler for Last boss: <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/467pmIX-oZo">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> Spoiler for Last boss: Last edited by -Sho-; 2012-03-18 at 22:11.

2012-03-18, 09:04	Link #2442
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	The worst thing about the photo for me is not the whole photoshop debacle, but that it's such a lazy way to handle a revelation that many gamers have been waiting for. Now, many here will know that I've always been a firm supporter of not revealing Tali's face, since the secret behind the helmet is one of the quarian's defining characteristics as a race, both in universe and out. However, I've also always supported that if they chose to reveal Tali's face, it should be a moment where time is taken to focus on it. Rannoch would have been ideal for that, really. All they had to do was show Tali's face there, and the scene would have worked.

2012-03-18, 12:01	Link #2449
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Again, the photoshopping isn't my main problem with it. A problem? Yeah, but not my main problem. My main problem is that they chose to reveal her face with a photo rather than actually have Tali take of her helmet to show her face in-game.