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I wonder what happened to that video tape.
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2011-01-21, 19:37 | Link #2042 | |
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This whole deal is abit meh, cause I can't lose sight that they are young teenagers so "knowing better" doesn't always apply but I can't help but think it should. Yuki falling for the guilt trip rather easily, at least say "ok after school at my/your place, whats the damn rush!?" Touru does have his side of the story but I feel too many things go against him and no way in hell the video cam is a coincidence. Biggest factor going against Touru atm is the bet, if he really did take the money for bet then he's scum whether or not he knew about the video cam. I suspect it could still be doing rounds somewhere, something like that would spread like wild fire. Altho it could be played that after Touru found out about it(if he didn't know) went to get it rid of it. but then if the guys didn't have a copy of it I'd paint them as huge dumb f***s for not cause lets be fair, you would.
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2011-01-21, 19:52 | Link #2043 | ||
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On a side note, if Tooru goes to a prep school in Tokyo, it's possible his parent(s) are well-to-do. If that's the case, why would he need money? Quote:
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2011-01-21, 19:56 | Link #2044 |
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lol, i stopped reading this Manga a long time ago (this Manga is way to emo)and then today I came across the latest chapter and I just read it for the lulz.. and I get this! wahahahaha! Awesome! it's cliche as fu*k, but awesome in this particular manga.
any interesting cases of otaku-rage yet?
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Jerkface definitely has some kind of vendetta against either Tooru or Yuki. The real question is who is the one he has a problem with? This will probably be revealed when Tooru is shown. In any case, from the circumstantial evidence in THIS chapter and in the manga thus far, Tooru is at least guilty of being partially involved in Jerkface plans. I personally don't want Tooru to be "completely innocent", because it would be too...well....lame. As for being in a prep school in Tokyo...it doesn't actually take that much money to be studying out of prefecture. I need to look at the original script again, because I thought Tooru was studying in a high school in Tokyo (which means he only occasionally returns to Nagano) and the prep school thing is somekind of mistranslation. Quote:
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2011-01-21, 20:46 | Link #2046 | |||
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This is FAR from cliche. Name me a shonen series that has done this before.
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2011-01-21, 21:08 | Link #2047 | |
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I too would have beat them up. But again not sure if "knowing better" applies cause at this point it's only on Yuki we can really say "should have known better". Can't really apply to Touru till he shows up with his side of the story. Well she does say herself she was so stupid for doing so, so I guess we could slap it on her but then theres whole "in love" and "dropping her guard" and what not. People say Yuki isn't to blame and I think I might agree but then like I say should she have "known better"?
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2011-01-21, 21:16 | Link #2048 |
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She should be blamed, its not like she was raped or anything. She was retarded enough to spread her legs like some brainless H manga chick, moreover she was like in middle school which she said herself. Imo it would be even better and more laughable about her if she got pregnant as they probably didn't use any protection (suzuka anyone?), but author didn't have enough "balls" to do that.
Who cares about touru and if he is a prick or not, same goes for sh1t face. They did what they did its common, but for yuki she should behave more normally considering her personality and family rising, yet she behaved like some naive skunk. Its not like I rage or something, but it makes me laugh and chuckle when she makes herself a drama queen and shows how she is ohh so hurt, when its 50-70% her fault. Touru was just a spark which lead her to spread her legs, its not like she had to do it or some kitties would die. |
2011-01-21, 21:34 | Link #2049 | |
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2011-01-21, 21:40 | Link #2050 | |
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Really she SHOULD have more sense, but then again, maybe not. Touru MIGHT be (and I expect will be) exonerated to a certain extent from the taping of the act, but the cheap shot at her dedication to him was uncalled for and he SHOULD have paid dearly for it. Throwing it all on Yuki I think is a rationalization that she's an idiot, which she clearly is not. Weak at one time? Obviously, but no longer, hence the difficulty she finds herself in with Utsumi now. |
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2011-01-21, 21:43 | Link #2052 | ||
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I do think a pregnancy thing would have been better, however we need to hate Touru for his potential return and appeal to Yuki. [/Suzukaspoilerremoved]
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2011-01-21, 21:55 | Link #2053 |
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I'm not surprised at the no pregnancy thing though. There are actually a LOT of things that go against getting pregnant. Its not THAT easy. OTOH, most teens who end up preggers SAY they only "did it once" which is total bull. Once the sign says "open", most teens start doing it like rabbits, multiple times a night, night after night until: "OOPS! I had NO idea!"
This was Yuki's first time as was clearly stated... and apparently her last too! She was in love, afraid of ruining her childhood friendship, and being seen as a "bad girlfriend", so she did the stupid thing and gave in in the heat of the moment. But as I stated above, on HER side there could have been MANY other mitigating circumstances that drew her into a bad decision. So while it was her fault on HER side that she gave in, she's already punished herself enough and isn't through with herself form the look of it, over a one night stand. We don't know Touru's side to everything is conjecture, but you KNOW there is more than meets the eye so far, and he will be made out the victim in SOME way before this story is over. |
2011-01-21, 22:27 | Link #2055 | |
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Tooru shoulders 95% of this, even if he didn't know about the taping (which I'm fairly certain he did, but I'm not going to convict a man when all the evidence isn't in yet). He was the one who let those idiots manipulate him and he's the jerk who used guilt to manipulate Yuki into doing it with him when she clearly wasn't ready for it. What I find funny about the Yuki part is this: Some people say she was manipulated into it. Others say she could have said no, but didn't because she wanted to do it. I prefer to go with the former, myself, because if its the latter, in some ways she brought it on herself for doing it in a place like that. Yeah, I'm sure she wasn't expecting a video camera, but doing it in a public place where anyone can walk in at any time... if its not due to Tooru's manipulation and her own conscious decision, it would make her even dumber than I thought. It's why I prefer the guilt trip theory.
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2011-01-22, 00:01 | Link #2057 | |
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As for Yuki, I don't think she did anything stupid. I mean how the hell was she supposed to know? She'd been friends with Touru since gradeschool, a person like that normally would not do anything to hurt you. |
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2011-01-22, 00:33 | Link #2058 | |
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It's like playing Russian Roulette. Yeah, you can get lucky and survive, but it's still a dumb thing to do. You can use the "as long as they were responsible" defense, I guess, but how responsible can they be if they're doing it on school grounds and one might be doing it on a bet? My mom had me when she was 16 and she tried her best. But she had to drop out of school and get a minimum wage laying job, and we were quite poor for a long time, because my dad was too young to be responsible. And I highly doubt Yuki's dad, given his attitude, would support Yuki and her baby if she did end up knocked up.
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2011-01-22, 00:42 | Link #2059 | |
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But personally the setup for Yuki giving up her virginity was actually in some ways what a lot of people would see as a seemingly ideal scenario. Would you rather she waited till she was 19 and in collage and banged some sports captain sempai she just met a month before? The odds were in her favor, she rolled the dice, and she lost, simple as that. |
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2011-01-22, 01:43 | Link #2060 | |
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