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Onizuka-GTO · 2004-07-07, 11:05

i don't mind implied Shounen-ai as long as they put in shoujo-ai as well (Well ok, normal love will do too)
as long as the love thingy doesn't mess with the fighting it's cool.

It was kinda shocking, when you realised after the monster attacking, that these people were a few minutes ago, living a normal life, had loving spouses and families, then suddenly they were in a different role.

Especially heart wrenching was the operator talking to the pilot and a tear drip down her face, because she knew he was going to die and when he did, she just kept on working.

It was a great start, it show the human side of them.

Of course i can't help but to notice the Rahxephon/Eva opening style.
well more of a Eva style you see a part of the battle first, then the wind-up to it. Then the rahxephon style where the main fight is in the next episode to make people follow it.

I can't wait for the next, time will tell if the series is any good, but at the moment it has me interested.

Just one problem with the character design, why does all the the faces look like they have sratch marks on their cheeks? its just irritating and ruins the clean look of them.

Secca · 2004-07-07, 11:34

Lol someone earlier said those scratch mark on the cheek they are blushing. ^^;; it's the same character designer who did Gundam Seed. I tought Gundam Seed was a little bit look too much like sCRYed and Invinite Ryvius back then when I just started watching it but I get used to it after a while when the story kick in. ^^

Just for kick, if anyone seen Hajime no Ippo, that's Makunouchi Ippo VA behind Soushi's voice. ^^

Dagger · 2004-07-07, 14:19

I actually think the scratch marks/blushing/whatever makes the character designs look more appealing--or, at the very least, less Gundam SEED-esque. Watching Fafner gives me a strong urge to go back and give Saikano another look. ^_^;

foxdie · 2004-07-07, 17:24

Well, i loved it. The island was very well designed. I loved how they introduced the surroundings in which things take place. I've already got a feel for the geography on this one (something fullmetal alchemist could have used, but that's the only thing wrong with FMA mind you

). The enemy mech could be a bit more animated though. It's like he (or she, it) is a still. The music was very very cool. Fits great with the beach island theme, very unique. I also like all the cool terms they throw around., makes me feel smart

.
I''ll stick with this one like glue.

dreamless · 2004-07-07, 18:21

one thing, anyone find the use of the terms Siegfried and Fafner strange? I think the Siegfried is the hero who killed Fafner, but in the anime they are systems working together?

I hate the ED... I don't think it has any "angela flavor" in it

Mugen-X · 2004-07-07, 19:07

Someone tell me about this anime what is it about is it any good it just came out so if u watched it give you're thoughts on it so far.

Kyuven · 2004-07-07, 19:10

look in the fansub forum, there's a nice chunky thread about it
it's pretty good so far, sort of RahXephon/evangelion-ish

~~ZeppelinJ0~~ · 2004-07-07, 19:19

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Originally Posted by dreamless

I think the Siegfried is the hero who killed Fafner, but in the anime they are systems working together?

Hmm... interesting eh?? I'm sure that signifies a 'twist' to come in the story! Stay tund!

JediNight · 2004-07-08, 03:22

I think a lot of people are being overly critical of the series. Anime has been around for a solid 30 years now -- theres bound to be similarities in almost every series you watch (except for maybe Lain hehe). So stop trying to compare it to Eva or RahXephon or whatever.

The mecha is very unique-looking if you ask me -- I don't remember seeing anything like it at least, especially in its flight-mode.

Spoiler:

Think about things like that and try to not compare it to other shows and just accept it for what it is.

Tellu54 · 2004-07-08, 13:26

The mech design doesn't really seem that derivative to me; I mean since they're all massive humanoid fighting robots they're all gonna look FAIRLY similar, but I can't say that the Fafner mechs would seem to follow any particular style.
The show hasn't succeeded in creating anything REALLY distinct, like say, Rouran did, but it definately is its own thing.
You can look at the designers page here.
http://www11.ocn.ne.jp/~kiwi/

dreamless · 2004-07-09, 00:22

finally watched episode 2, now I can say that there's at least one thing I love about the series, the OP!!!! I love the OP animation and the song Shangri-La. too bad I don't like the ED too much...

So far imo the show has only some very minor and insignificant similarities to EVA, the storyline seems to be progressing very differently, there are already two love triangles, and I hope the character relationships will develop more like RahXephon than EVA...

Now I like the girl whose dad died at the attack a lot... well, at first I think she's a boy, until she speaks...

144M_HYPERION · 2004-07-09, 00:28

The first thing that grab my attention for this series is the BGM. The first few min BGM is just grandeur.

As for the anime, I think this is a very interesting series. Although it share some similarities with EVA, the series still really stand out on its own.

P.S. How come mecha type anime is always so obsessed with German word ???

dreamless · 2004-07-09, 00:50

Hmm... I don't see why Festum/Festive is incompatible with humanity's survival.. currently I think there's much more to the human vs. Festum/Festive war it seems... kinda reminds me of Jovian vs. human war in Nadesico...

Secca · 2004-07-09, 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamless

Hmm... I don't see why Festum/Festive is incompatible with humanity's survival.. currently I think there's much more to the human vs. Festum/Festive war it seems... kinda reminds me of Jovian vs. human war in Nadesico...

!!! good point. There is that possibilty.

Jeebs · 2004-07-09, 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamless

one thing, anyone find the use of the terms Siegfried and Fafner strange? I think the Siegfried is the hero who killed Fafner, but in the anime they are systems working together?
(

The hero that slays Fafnir in the Norse myth is named Sigurd isn't he?

Secca · 2004-07-09, 01:14

LoL I also tought there is another possibilty, that they are just evil aliens like in the Mars Attack movie. "We come in peace." *ZAP* *ZAP* ^^;;

supra33202 · 2004-07-09, 01:36

Have you watched the first episode of Soukyuu no Fafner? Is it good?

Tellu54 · 2004-07-09, 02:42

To the person who said that the Festum's goal is not incompatable with mankind's existence, here's something from the background docs on the show:
This is probably a pretty big spoiler, or maybe not, because it was in the background docs which have so far been good about not revealing too much.

Spoiler:

BTW It's "Festum" or maybe "Festom", "Festive" is wrong.

dreamless · 2004-07-09, 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeebs

The hero that slays Fafnir in the Norse myth is named Sigurd isn't he?

Sigurd and Siegfried are the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tellu54

To the person who said that the Festum's goal is not incompatable with mankind's existence, here's something from the background docs on the show:
This is probably a pretty big spoiler, or maybe not, because it was in the background docs which have so far been good about not revealing too much.

Spoiler:

BTW It's "Festum" or maybe "Festom", "Festive" is wrong.

Well,

Spoiler:

Hmm... I see Festive in Aoi-Anime's translation... anyway anyone has any idea where does the word Festum/Festom come from? I also noticed the term Lindblum in the second episode...

JediNight · 2004-07-09, 08:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamless

Hmm... I see Festive in Aoi-Anime's translation... anyway anyone has any idea where does the word Festum/Festom come from? I also noticed the term Lindblum in the second episode...

I believe its a derivative of Festus aka the man who sold his soul to the devil in that one famous play or book or whatever. They are the children/spawn of Festus I guess since Festum would be a plural of Festus. (Like Lillum is plural for Lillith offspring in Eva). And no, it's not Festive -- Aoi had a rush release so they didn't do proper research into the terms from the series.

2004-07-07, 11:05	Link #81
Onizuka-GTO Holy Beast ~Wuff!~ Scanlator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, UK Age: 41	i don't mind implied Shounen-ai as long as they put in shoujo-ai as well (Well ok, normal love will do too) as long as the love thingy doesn't mess with the fighting it's cool. It was kinda shocking, when you realised after the monster attacking, that these people were a few minutes ago, living a normal life, had loving spouses and families, then suddenly they were in a different role. Especially heart wrenching was the operator talking to the pilot and a tear drip down her face, because she knew he was going to die and when he did, she just kept on working. It was a great start, it show the human side of them. Of course i can't help but to notice the Rahxephon/Eva opening style. well more of a Eva style you see a part of the battle first, then the wind-up to it. Then the rahxephon style where the main fight is in the next episode to make people follow it. I can't wait for the next, time will tell if the series is any good, but at the moment it has me interested. Just one problem with the character design, why does all the the faces look like they have sratch marks on their cheeks? its just irritating and ruins the clean look of them. __________________

2004-07-07, 17:24	Link #84
foxdie Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Netherlands Age: 47	Well, i loved it. The island was very well designed. I loved how they introduced the surroundings in which things take place. I've already got a feel for the geography on this one (something fullmetal alchemist could have used, but that's the only thing wrong with FMA mind you). The enemy mech could be a bit more animated though. It's like he (or she, it) is a still. The music was very very cool. Fits great with the beach island theme, very unique. I also like all the cool terms they throw around., makes me feel smart. I''ll stick with this one like glue.

2004-07-07, 19:07	Link #86
Mugen-X BadAss Join Date: Jun 2004	Soukyu no Fafner (TV) Someone tell me about this anime what is it about is it any good it just came out so if u watched it give you're thoughts on it so far.

2004-07-08, 03:22	Link #89
JediNight キズランダム Join Date: Apr 2003	I think a lot of people are being overly critical of the series. Anime has been around for a solid 30 years now -- theres bound to be similarities in almost every series you watch (except for maybe Lain hehe). So stop trying to compare it to Eva or RahXephon or whatever. The mecha is very unique-looking if you ask me -- I don't remember seeing anything like it at least, especially in its flight-mode. Spoiler: I think Soushi's statement about the rest of the world being gone is rather ambiguous to say the least. He doesn't say if the rest of the world was destroyed in a war with the aliens, or just Japan, or if its the RahXephon scenario where they are in their own time-space bubble. We just don't know yet. The deaths in the 1st ep show how fragile life is. One minute you are there and the next you are erased from the face of the earth like nothing. Look how the entire fighter squadron vitals redlined instantly and the entire family dying in the void sphere just moments after talking to Maya. Life is fragile. Think about things like that and try to not compare it to other shows and just accept it for what it is.

2004-07-09, 01:36	Link #97
supra33202 Junior Member Join Date: May 2004	New series: Soukyuu no Fafner Have you watched the first episode of Soukyuu no Fafner? Is it good?

2004-07-07, 11:34	Link #82
Secca nya` Artist Join Date: Feb 2004	Lol someone earlier said those scratch mark on the cheek they are blushing. ^^;; it's the same character designer who did Gundam Seed. I tought Gundam Seed was a little bit look too much like sCRYed and Invinite Ryvius back then when I just started watching it but I get used to it after a while when the story kick in. ^^ Just for kick, if anyone seen Hajime no Ippo, that's Makunouchi Ippo VA behind Soushi's voice. ^^

2004-07-07, 14:19	Link #83
Dagger Nitro+ fan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hyogo	I actually think the scratch marks/blushing/whatever makes the character designs look more appealing--or, at the very least, less Gundam SEED-esque. Watching Fafner gives me a strong urge to go back and give Saikano another look. ^_^;

2004-07-07, 18:21	Link #85
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	one thing, anyone find the use of the terms Siegfried and Fafner strange? I think the Siegfried is the hero who killed Fafner, but in the anime they are systems working together? I hate the ED... I don't think it has any "angela flavor" in it

2004-07-07, 19:10	Link #87
Kyuven Bishoujo Goodness Galore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Stuck Between Reality and Fantasy	look in the fansub forum, there's a nice chunky thread about it it's pretty good so far, sort of RahXephon/evangelion-ish

2004-07-08, 13:26	Link #90
Tellu54 Banned Join Date: Dec 2003	The mech design doesn't really seem that derivative to me; I mean since they're all massive humanoid fighting robots they're all gonna look FAIRLY similar, but I can't say that the Fafner mechs would seem to follow any particular style. The show hasn't succeeded in creating anything REALLY distinct, like say, Rouran did, but it definately is its own thing. You can look at the designers page here. http://www11.ocn.ne.jp/~kiwi/

2004-07-09, 00:22	Link #91
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	finally watched episode 2, now I can say that there's at least one thing I love about the series, the OP!!!! I love the OP animation and the song Shangri-La. too bad I don't like the ED too much... So far imo the show has only some very minor and insignificant similarities to EVA, the storyline seems to be progressing very differently, there are already two love triangles, and I hope the character relationships will develop more like RahXephon than EVA... Now I like the girl whose dad died at the attack a lot... well, at first I think she's a boy, until she speaks...

2004-07-09, 00:28	Link #92
144M_HYPERION Miracle Yang !! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Iserlohn Fortress Age: 41	The first thing that grab my attention for this series is the BGM. The first few min BGM is just grandeur. As for the anime, I think this is a very interesting series. Although it share some similarities with EVA, the series still really stand out on its own. P.S. How come mecha type anime is always so obsessed with German word ???

2004-07-09, 00:50	Link #93
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	Hmm... I don't see why Festum/Festive is incompatible with humanity's survival.. currently I think there's much more to the human vs. Festum/Festive war it seems... kinda reminds me of Jovian vs. human war in Nadesico...

2004-07-09, 01:14	Link #96
Secca nya` Artist Join Date: Feb 2004	LoL I also tought there is another possibilty, that they are just evil aliens like in the Mars Attack movie. "We come in peace." ZAP ZAP ^^;;

2004-07-09, 02:42	Link #98
Tellu54 Banned Join Date: Dec 2003	To the person who said that the Festum's goal is not incompatable with mankind's existence, here's something from the background docs on the show: This is probably a pretty big spoiler, or maybe not, because it was in the background docs which have so far been good about not revealing too much. Spoiler: The Festum's goal: The goal of the silicon-based lifeform "Festum" is "to cease existing". To them, this means evolving by assimilating with another life form. To this end, they ask "Are you there?", and attempt to assimilate with those who answer 'yes', and attempt to destroy those who answer 'no'. BTW It's "Festum" or maybe "Festom", "Festive" is wrong.