2009-08-02, 16:04 | Link #281 | |
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It seems that Blackbeard's plans changed from what they initially were (going after Luffy to earn himself the vacant spot in the shichibukai). Defeating Ace and putting him in the WG's custody served as the catalyst for this great war to occur. Consequently, it wouldn't matter which side would be victorious in this war, because either way his opposition would be severely weakened after it is over. Blackbeard's whole goal is to rule the seas unopposed, and what better way to do this than to not get his own hands dirty? This situation is too convenient for Blackbeard, so of course he's going to take full advantage of it in this special case. Now, one thing that we have to ask ourselves, would something of this magnitude have happened if Luffy was in Ace's shoes instead? Probably not since Luffy has no affiliation with a world power and because he is not nearly as infamous as Ace is. Then again, Luffy does have ties with Dragon, Garp, and Shanks, so who knows how things would have turned out? If fate didn't intervene, Blackbeard's plan would have played out quite differently, and thus he may have taken a different approach as to how to get rid of Whitebeard.
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I foresee Blackbeard somehow coming out on top of this whole situation, and maybe being the main protagonist of the next arc. I'm pretty sure Ace is going to be saved, since Luffy's drive has proved to always get him what he wants, but I don't think this arc will be a completely happy ending. I think it's safe to assume that Ace is stronger than Luffy, though it's probably debatable. Also, I think Ace will still want to teach Blackbeard his lesson, so I think he'll be going after him once this war arc is all said and done. But all of this depends on the specific of Teach's plan and how events unfold. |
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2009-08-02, 16:33 | Link #283 | ||
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Do you honestly believe that Whitebeard and Blackbeard won't even confront each other in this war? This whole mess was instigated by Blackbeard and he is the one responsible for putting the Whitebeard pirates through this whole tribulation. I'm sure that before Whitebeard meets his end, both he and Blackbeard would want to exchange a few words with each other. This conversation could also shed some light on Blackbeard's past and what some of his ulterior motives are. Blackbeard and Whitebeard are destined to meet each other. It is fate .
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2009-08-02, 16:36 | Link #284 | |
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I think I might have figured exactly what Dragon's power is. Spoiler for Dragon's DF Speculation from the Zoan Thread:
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Luffy and Blackbeard fighting is fate. Blackbeard and Whitebeard fighting is fan appeal. |
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2009-08-02, 17:20 | Link #286 | |||
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It's not fan appeal. It's perfectly plausible for them to get into a confrontation and there has been foreshadowing that suggests this will come to fruition.
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Additionally, since Whitebeard did lie to Shanks concerning Ace, who’s to say he didn't lie (to Shanks) concerning Blackbeard? Quote:
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And since you think Blackbeard will get to Whitebeard's level in time anyway, does it really matter if he participates in the fight that will actually end Whitebeard and his era? Not really. Is it plausible? Sure. But it is not (with the info we currently have) truly necessary. There was ample foreshadowing that Ace would confront Blackbeard, but not much (besides Whitebeard saying that he would potentially deal with the situation) concerning Whitebeard and Blackbeard. There is far more foreshadowing, though, concerning a Luffy and Blackbeard encounter - that is an encounter facilitated by fate. |
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2009-08-02, 18:41 | Link #288 | |
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As for Roger and Whitebeard never defeating each other and hence being equals, that doesn't matter because no one ever surpassed Roger in strength and he was declared the pirate king for whatever reasons (conquering the seas, traveling everywhere, etc.). Also, we're not even sure if Whitebeard was interested in becoming the pirate king during Roger's era, and if he wasn't, that would explain why he never became the pirate king.
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2009-08-02, 19:03 | Link #289 | |
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2009-08-02, 20:57 | Link #290 |
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we still dont know blackbeards full potential yet so we can't judge. for all we know, blackbeard is still probably getting used to the powers of the fruit himself. he probably didn't master it yet. i mean if he's so strong, how did his entire crew get whupped by mallegan (sp) ?
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2009-08-02, 21:19 | Link #291 | |
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That's just a guess, of course. |
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2009-08-02, 22:34 | Link #292 | |
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2009-08-02, 23:05 | Link #293 |
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Nice pic Master Mold!
and as just a note: it was never specified that Gold Roger became the pirate king because he got to Raftel, only that he left his treasure there and for all we know he could simply have been the pirate king because he was TRULY the strongest pirate (I hypothesize that since WB has really hax Quake Quake fruit, Roger must have had: A. Excellent Haki B. Another extremely strong DF (Gravity Gravity no Fruit?) |
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2009-08-03, 04:08 | Link #297 | |
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Besides according to Iva, World Government will have a "hard-time" dealing with both Whitebeard and Dragon at the same time (If Dragon ever lands in) which pretty much means that WG may have the power to supress both "The Strongest Man" and "The Most Dangerous Man" at the same time. |
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For some reason I think Dragon's power is as destructive as Whitebeard's. I know its all speculation but I really believe that freak occurrence on Loguetown was somehow caused by Dragon, and if I'm right about his ability then it definitely was. |
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2009-08-03, 05:37 | Link #299 | |
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2009-08-03, 10:17 | Link #300 |
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It is agaisnt the rules to show the scanalations (i.e. a page or portion of the page to show what a Character said) but it is alright to post scans or crops to show anything that can be hardly described with words (action, Landscapes, e.t.c)
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