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Kakkou · 2011-10-13, 21:31

Shinjurou's "It may not be a matter of who or when but why" (or something like that) pretty much sums up my feelings for the first mystery. It was plain as day to the point you could map out a rough idea of the killer and method before the guy even died. Only thing left was the motive. I hope they come up with better cases than this.

OP/ED are good, especially the ED. LAMA is really growing on me and the visuals are nice. Aki Toyosaki was pretty swell as Inga. This is probably her first lead role where I actually like her voice work. The premier didn't really do much to draw me in but was alright enough for me to stick around for now. If anything I'd watch it just to find out what'd the deal with Inga's supernatural powers and how the two of them met.

Blue-kun · 2011-10-13, 21:35

That was interesting. I felt a bit overwhelmed at first with just how many different names they were throwing at me, but maybe it's because I'm tired and it's late, but other than that, it was definitely not a bad ride. The mystery was somewhat cookie cutter and didn't really have any particularly memorable twist to it. Still, I liked most of the dialogue, and visually the show has a very distinctive air to it, which fits well for a detective series. The music was equally good, and I love that more classic guitar piece at the end where Yuuki started explaining stuff.

Other than that, I'm also a bit relieved that the supernatural Panda Lady part wasn't as exaggerated as I thought it'd be. Having a shot at one question could actually work well as a plot device. At least for as long as they don't have him asking directly "are you the culprit", haha. As it is, it's a nice trump card for the detective, who certainly can't go around wasting his shot while being completely clueless about the case. Not a fan of magical plot devices, but I guess this is far from being a horrible one as long as they keep it in check.

Overall, it wasn't great, but it didn't bore me either. There's loads of room to improve here, so I'll be back for another few weeks. Aside from the mystery solving, the small flashback before the OP also had me intrigued, so!

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Originally Posted by Kakkou

Shinjurou's "It may not be a matter of who or when but why" (or something like that) pretty much sums up my feelings for the first mystery

Haha. I must agree with this, although this particular line brought a smile to my face. It just screams "classic conceited detective line" that would fit every other great detective story. I could picture Poirot saying something along those lines, although I'm certain it would sound somewhat more française!

Kismet-chan · 2011-10-13, 21:39

For those who are confused, Inga is a GIRL. She's just very... lacking in her smaller form. I'm pretty sure about this.

Anyway, I love the OP and ED. Both the songs and visuals were great (with School Food Punishment's song being the best of the two). The BGM is nice to listen to and helps the plot illustrate its points/retain the mood well.

I find Rie EXTREMELY annoying for some reason. Not that she has an annoying personality or design, I'm just really turned off by her in general and I can't explain why. Maybe if she gets some character development I'll change my mind later on, but for now she's just a pest to me in any scene she appears in -- especially if she's in a scene with her father or Izumi... who I actually find twice as annoying.

Otherwise, no complaints. I like the setting. In a lot of anime you either see a COMPLETELY destroyed post-apocalyptic Japan, a futuristic Tokyo, or some made-up city that is just a wannabe Japanese city. I think a setting with recently-ended wartime type of environment (where part of the city is actually still intact) is kinda neat.

It'll be interesting to learn more about these characters down the line. I like Inga and Shinjurou quite a bit (even Rinroku seems like he may be pretty interesting).

Master_Yoma · 2011-10-13, 22:01

So is Inga a trap or what

wandering-dreamer · 2011-10-13, 22:08

Heh, someone on ANN pointed out this fun little easter egg:

Guardian Enzo · 2011-10-13, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Kismet-chan

For those who are confused, Inga is a GIRL. She's just very... lacking in her smaller form. I'm pretty sure about this.

Seiyuu doesn't agree...

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Toyosaki said she was excited to win the role of Inga after an audition.

"I want to play Inga in a mysterious and innocent manner so that I can pull the charm out of him with my acting," Toyosaki was quoted as saying.

Kismet-chan · 2011-10-13, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Master_Yoma

So is Inga a trap or what

All sites I've personally looked at with info on UN-GO list her as female (in both forms). Of course, that might be inaccurate. Perhaps her smaller form is just not well-endowed/doesn't bare as much femininity as people would prefer or can easily identify with, maybe possibly as a disguise or to conserve energy...? That is, IF Inga is female, which seems to be up in the air at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Seiyuu doesn't agree...

Maybe Toyosaki was mistaken? Until either the director/producer says it or if a character in the show says it outright, I'm considering Inga 100% female.

Plus, if Inga is really a guy (or some weird guy/girl combo thingy), wouldn't Shinjurou have been verbally/noticeably disgusted by that kiss?

totoum · 2011-10-13, 22:32

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Originally Posted by wandering-dreamer

Heh, someone on ANN pointed out this fun little easter egg

So how long before she stars in her own NoitaminA show?

Guardian Enzo · 2011-10-13, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Kismet-chan

All sites I've personally looked at with info on UN-GO list her as female (in both forms). Her smaller form is just not well-endowed/doesn't bare as much femininity as people would prefer or can easily identify with, maybe possibly as a disguise or to conserve energy... that is, IF Inga is female.

Maybe Toyosaki was mistaken? Until either the director/producer says it or if a character in the shows says it outright, I'm considering Inga 100% female.

Actually, I've yet to see a site list Inga as female, FWIW. I guess someone could read Meiji Kaika Ango Torimono-chō if they want to know for sure, but it's not translated to English as far as I know.

wandering-dreamer · 2011-10-13, 22:47

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Originally Posted by Kismet-chan

Plus, if Inga is really a guy (or some weird guy/girl combo thingy), wouldn't Shinjurou have been verbally/noticeably disgusted by that kiss?

Well, you're forgetting that part of the male population actually likes getting kissed by other men as opposed to women. More likely Shinjurou is just used to Panda Lady's antics, he did look rather put upon when she appeared.

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Actually, I've yet to see a site list Inga as female, FWIW. I guess someone could read Meiji Kaika Ango Torimono-chō if they want to know for sure, but it's not translated to English as far as I know.

Wait, you're telling me that a crazy, possibly gender transforming side-kick is actually in the original story? These sound like kinda trippy stories....

creb · 2011-10-13, 23:33

When you're some crazy being able to shoot butterflies into people's eyes and what not, does the normal question of gender even matter? She/he/it has boobs in butterfly mode, so as long as there isn't anything dangling down there that you feel when she/he/it presses up to you to plant a smooch on your face, who cares?

musouka · 2011-10-14, 00:49

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Actually, I've yet to see a site list Inga as female, FWIW. I guess someone could read Meiji Kaika Ango Torimono-chō if they want to know for sure, but it's not translated to English as far as I know.

Or just look at the official website, where Inga is listed as a "bishounen."

Guardian Enzo · 2011-10-14, 01:10

Yeah, Google Translate chokes on the character pages so I wasn't sure, but that's pretty much what I figured.

Forsaken_Infinity · 2011-10-14, 02:19

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Originally Posted by Kismet-chan

For those who are confused, Inga is a GIRL. She's just very... lacking in her smaller form. I'm pretty sure about this.

??
I was pretty sure we had a discussion about how he's actually a boy like two months ago. You can search through the thread if you want, but he was confirmed male.

Haak · 2011-10-14, 02:26

Okay the culprit reveal wasn't too shocking (I already guessed the minute that girl collapsed from the wine), the motive was a bit circumspect (you can't make that sort of love genuine or sympathetic and they tried to) and it did rely on a convenient power to get behind the case (they didn't really need it since they had already proved her guily with the trousers), but these were only minor problems I'd be nitpicking at compared to how great just about everything else was. I want to know more about Shinjuro and Inga and I'm already hoping to ship Shinjuro with Rei.

creb · 2011-10-14, 02:31

So, did I interpret it correctly that Shinjuro is called the "Defeated Detective" because even though he always solves the case, they're all covered up by Rei's father, hence the public thinks Rei's father is the real genius detective?

Also, I doubt this is a show where romance is going to play a central part, but I know that never stops the shipping.

Still, it's not like Rei has a whole lot of competition, eh?

black_star · 2011-10-14, 02:52

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Originally Posted by Kismet-chan

For those who are confused, Inga is a GIRL. She's just very... lacking in her smaller form. I'm pretty sure about this.

W...ww...WHAT? Inga is a GIRL? Man, she looks transgendered.

Reckoner · 2011-10-14, 04:22

To be honest, I enjoyed this more than I enjoyed Guilty Crown episode 1 (I enjoyed that too, but not as much). I like it, definite keeper. Better main character for sure.

Kismet-chan · 2011-10-14, 04:32

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Originally Posted by black_star

W...ww...WHAT? Inga is a GIRL? Man, she looks transgendered.

Apparently, according to a couple of other posters and the official site, I'm wrong and Inga is a boy. Which angers me because of the ridiculousness/nonsensical nature of it. Why have a little boy that transforms into a mature female form? That's very... Sailor Stars-ish? *Sighs* I will never understand the Japanese...

orion · 2011-10-14, 05:52

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Originally Posted by Kismet-chan

Apparently, according to a couple of other posters and the official site, I'm wrong and Inga is a boy. Which angers me because of the ridiculousness/nonsensical nature of it. Why have a little boy that transforms into a mature female form? That's very... Sailor Stars-ish? *Sighs* I will never understand the Japanese...

The character page doesn't post anything for Inga yet. So where is the other proof of gender?

That design has gone too far female not to be considered female. Besides, the official subs labeled adult form as female.

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Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	Okay the culprit reveal wasn't too shocking (I already guessed the minute that girl collapsed from the wine), the motive was a bit circumspect (you can't make that sort of love genuine or sympathetic and they tried to) and it did rely on a convenient power to get behind the case (they didn't really need it since they had already proved her guily with the trousers), but these were only minor problems I'd be nitpicking at compared to how great just about everything else was. I want to know more about Shinjuro and Inga and I'm already hoping to ship Shinjuro with Rei. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

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creb Hiding Under Your Bed Join Date: May 2008	So, did I interpret it correctly that Shinjuro is called the "Defeated Detective" because even though he always solves the case, they're all covered up by Rei's father, hence the public thinks Rei's father is the real genius detective? Also, I doubt this is a show where romance is going to play a central part, but I know that never stops the shipping. Still, it's not like Rei has a whole lot of competition, eh? __________________ http://myanimelist.net/animelist/creb http://myanimelist.net/mangalist/creb It feels like years since they've been updated, btw. Also, cake.

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Kakkou Tch. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia	Shinjurou's "It may not be a matter of who or when but why" (or something like that) pretty much sums up my feelings for the first mystery. It was plain as day to the point you could map out a rough idea of the killer and method before the guy even died. Only thing left was the motive. I hope they come up with better cases than this. OP/ED are good, especially the ED. LAMA is really growing on me and the visuals are nice. Aki Toyosaki was pretty swell as Inga. This is probably her first lead role where I actually like her voice work. The premier didn't really do much to draw me in but was alright enough for me to stick around for now. If anything I'd watch it just to find out what'd the deal with Inga's supernatural powers and how the two of them met.

2011-10-13, 21:39	Link #123
Kismet-chan The Chaotic Dreamer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In a cruel yet beautiful world Age: 32	For those who are confused, Inga is a GIRL. She's just very... lacking in her smaller form. I'm pretty sure about this. Anyway, I love the OP and ED. Both the songs and visuals were great (with School Food Punishment's song being the best of the two). The BGM is nice to listen to and helps the plot illustrate its points/retain the mood well. I find Rie EXTREMELY annoying for some reason. Not that she has an annoying personality or design, I'm just really turned off by her in general and I can't explain why. Maybe if she gets some character development I'll change my mind later on, but for now she's just a pest to me in any scene she appears in -- especially if she's in a scene with her father or Izumi... who I actually find twice as annoying. Otherwise, no complaints. I like the setting. In a lot of anime you either see a COMPLETELY destroyed post-apocalyptic Japan, a futuristic Tokyo, or some made-up city that is just a wannabe Japanese city. I think a setting with recently-ended wartime type of environment (where part of the city is actually still intact) is kinda neat. It'll be interesting to learn more about these characters down the line. I like Inga and Shinjurou quite a bit (even Rinroku seems like he may be pretty interesting).