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0TaKu0 · 2007-07-23, 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Other Ninja

What translation are you reading? I don't recall seeing "we".

Yea That Other Ninja is right, I read 4 different translations only one had the word "We" in it, the other three had "As the Leader failure is unacceptable." or "You as the Leader failure is unacceptable.". Most likely the "We" one is wrong.

That Other Ninja · 2007-07-23, 18:29

Can never be sure with these translations. But I was fairly certain there's no "we" in that panel.

ZGoten · 2007-07-23, 18:31

Yeah, maybe that translation from Itsumobasho is wrong...didn´t know, that there´s no "we" in those other translations.

Sinaura · 2007-07-23, 19:24

Hmm after reading the last chapter, it seems like everyone is interested in, yet again, Sasuke: Pein, the shadowy dude, all of Akatsuki you might as well say. This is good for the story, because it brings back the concept of Naruto always having to prove himself to people. Everyone is SO focused on Sasuke's power and the Kyubbi that they forget or doubt what Naruto can do as a ninja. As a result he does something incredibly badass (like the time he summoned Gamabunta against Gaara and pwned Kabuto with the Rasengan) and obliterates his enemies/doubters.

I just think that's a better read than Emo-Sasuke genjutusing everyone and everything in his path.

Spoiler pics look fake, but at the same time Tobi alive is the logical path to go.

BlackShinobi07 · 2007-07-23, 19:56

I think Naruto has lost relavence in the story. All the focus has been on Sasuke for sometime time now and he just gave us the best fight part 2 has shown so far. Both fighters used thier wits, best justus, (at lest Deidara did since Sasuke still had something up his sleeve) and it was and awesome battle to say the least. akatsuki also appears to have planes for Sasuke. As for Naruto, they're not even referring him by name anymore, they simply call him the kyuubi jinchuriki. Since Pein is now sopposed to go after Naruto i geuss some light will shine on him again, but unless he goes kyuubi or recieves help or Pein is really weak, i cant see naruto pulling off a win in a one on one fight. Also, is it possible that Itachi could interfere with the Narutos capture? Naruto was his taget after all, and if you guys havent noticed, its almost as if Itachi has been procrastinating with Narutos capture, constantly comming up with excuses. The first was when he fought Kakashi and left because he didnt want to draw attention from any more ninjas, the second time was against Jiraiya, and the third was right after Kisami had captured the four tails and Itachi said its best to leave Naruto for last since he needs to be sealed last. Those are logical reasons for not being able to capture Naruto, but for someone of his caliber with a powerfull partner like Kisami by hios side, something just seems fishy.

Nintendo · 2007-07-23, 20:42

itachi is really a spy....makes sense.

kheldorin · 2007-07-23, 20:47

I think it's time for Kishi to reveal more about Naruto's past and somehow tie it to the characters that are present in this arc. It doesn't make sense for me for Naruto not asking who his parents were. Not really a big fan of AL is related to Naruto theories but if that's what it takes to bring the focus back to Naruto, then I think it should be done. Like BlackShinobi mentioned, I wasn't really impressed when the shadowy guy didn't know Naruto's name and even Kabutomaru wants to kill Sasuke first and actually helped Naruto. Seems a bit weird for the major villains to be gunning for someone that is not a lead character. I miss the days when all the villagers and shinobis thought little of Naruto and we could enjoy seeing Naruto proving all the villagers wrong and defeating all those shinobis. Part of the problem I think for post-timeskip Naruto is Yamato and Sai. They didn't add much to Naruto's character story and are not really interesting characters themselves.

Hir0 · 2007-07-23, 20:51

i dunno bout this really, it seems alittle too fast. I mean, Shouldnt the Leader come out last to fight? He should have stayed shadowed till like 3 Akatsuki members left. from what i see, Akatsuki is like a mercenary group. The other shadow figure is just a client i think. Probally getting all the tailed beasts was to get enough money to advance.

lol Tobi better be alive still

carb · 2007-07-23, 21:05

i think the sharingan in its strongest form is still stronger than w/e pain has, with reference to orochimaru's goal to capture the sharingan. Why would he settle for less if AL's eyes are stronger?

That Other Ninja · 2007-07-23, 21:17

*laughs* Why would he settles for less? He settled for less the minute he realized he couldn't take Itachi.

Justice Knight · 2007-07-23, 21:20

did any1 see the new spoiler pic?

Spoiler:

nine_tailed_kyuubi · 2007-07-23, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Justice Knight

did any1 see the new spoiler pic?

Spoiler:

what pic ?

Nuu · 2007-07-23, 22:01

well now that everyone knows where a fight was going on you would think that the rest of the teams 7 and 8 would run there to see what went on or but only time will tell... .i do believe toby is alive in some way not ......

as for this picture it is mostly photoshopped but still would like to see it

Rahan · 2007-07-23, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by nine_tailed_kyuubi

what pic ?

That one :

Spoiler:

It's probably fake. There is no reason only that panel of the page would come out spoiled. (but well, Himajin confirmed an half page and didn't say what was going on on this page (are Naruto and Tobi staring at each other or do the scene switch below the Naruto panel we don't know) so I don't really know what to think)

BlackShinobi07 · 2007-07-23, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahan

That one :

Spoiler:

It's probably fake. There is no reason only that panel of the page would come out spoiled. (but well, Himajin confirmed an half page and didn't say what was going on on this page (are Naruto and Tobi staring at each other or do the scene switch below the Naruto panel we don't know) so I don't really know what to think)

Hmmp, seems like Oro is starting to take control (if that pic is real). I wonder what a confrontation between the Oro in Sasuke and the oro in Kabuto would be like?

PieWhatWhere · 2007-07-24, 00:13

I for one am kind of sad deidara is dead now. I actually really like him.

0TaKu0 · 2007-07-24, 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahan

That one :

Spoiler:

This picture is apparently a reversed, resized / cropped, edited panel # 8 of page 5 from Chapter 360.

Rahan · 2007-07-24, 02:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Small One

I wonder why so many people call this guy "second leader". I think "client" would be a more fitting description. We know that all those ninjas in the series do nothing without a client who pays them (except of internal village stuff, which Akatsuki doesn't need).

This guy seems to be the one who pays Akatsuki. Maybe he even created the machine to extract the tailed beasts.

What I wonder though is why he isn't really shown. There could only be two explanations: The author hasn't decided on his appearance and abilities (like all the Akatsuki memebers weren't really shown until they were needed), or it's someone we already know and we shouldn't know yet.
If (s)he's just a client (=no ninja) it hints to the second explanation.

Well, just who could be a client ? The only known civilian are the Country lords (Kishi totally forgot about them and didn't even bother to show them, so there was no need to hide the mastermind), Ichiraku and his daughter (who disappeared for no reason in pt2) and the bridge maker and his family. The list is quite short.

Usually, the theories found on NF are totally ridiculous, but I like the idea of Tobi being the mastermind. Tobi was only a fake identity to allow him to monitor Akatsuki's progress. He was the only witness of the fight, that's why he knew Sasuke didn't die. He can't be dead yet (altough his current identity is dead though, he won't appear anymore under that form once he gets out of the fight scene) and will come back kick some ass without his mask. Just like AL turned out to not be Yondaime, but some familiar looking unknown character, Tobi will turn out to not be Obito, but a familiar looking unknown character.

Hunter · 2007-07-24, 06:08

Considering there is nothing but fake pics for the moment, I'm closing this thread for now.

nightengale5385 · 2007-07-25, 10:07

I'll post the new spoiler pics here for ch.364 since the thread is closed 'til further notice

Spoiler:

2007-07-23, 18:31	Link #43
ZGoten Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Age: 34	Yeah, maybe that translation from Itsumobasho is wrong...didn´t know, that there´s no "we" in those other translations. __________________ Truth is elusive to those who refuse to see with both eyes.

2007-07-23, 20:42	Link #46
Nintendo start thinkin bout clones Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Los Angeles,California Age: 40	itachi is really a spy....makes sense. __________________

2007-07-23, 21:20	Link #51
Justice Knight Haro Pwned U!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005	did any1 see the new spoiler pic? Spoiler: its saschimaru,look at the eyes

2007-07-23, 22:01	Link #53
Nuu Teh Sauce Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Western Mass Age: 39	well now that everyone knows where a fight was going on you would think that the rest of the teams 7 and 8 would run there to see what went on or but only time will tell... .i do believe toby is alive in some way not ...... as for this picture it is mostly photoshopped but still would like to see it __________________

2007-07-24, 06:08	Link #59
Hunter Bubbly and super fun Join Date: May 2003 Location: Doesn't look like Kansas	Considering there is nothing but fake pics for the moment, I'm closing this thread for now. Last edited by Hunter; 2007-07-25 at 10:55.

2007-07-23, 18:29	Link #42
That Other Ninja That Other Senior Member Artist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Michael Dudikoff's American Ninja Dojo Age: 40	Can never be sure with these translations. But I was fairly certain there's no "we" in that panel.

2007-07-23, 19:24	Link #44
Sinaura Fat Warlord Join Date: Dec 2005	Hmm after reading the last chapter, it seems like everyone is interested in, yet again, Sasuke: Pein, the shadowy dude, all of Akatsuki you might as well say. This is good for the story, because it brings back the concept of Naruto always having to prove himself to people. Everyone is SO focused on Sasuke's power and the Kyubbi that they forget or doubt what Naruto can do as a ninja. As a result he does something incredibly badass (like the time he summoned Gamabunta against Gaara and pwned Kabuto with the Rasengan) and obliterates his enemies/doubters. I just think that's a better read than Emo-Sasuke genjutusing everyone and everything in his path. Spoiler pics look fake, but at the same time Tobi alive is the logical path to go.

2007-07-23, 19:56	Link #45
BlackShinobi07 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007	I think Naruto has lost relavence in the story. All the focus has been on Sasuke for sometime time now and he just gave us the best fight part 2 has shown so far. Both fighters used thier wits, best justus, (at lest Deidara did since Sasuke still had something up his sleeve) and it was and awesome battle to say the least. akatsuki also appears to have planes for Sasuke. As for Naruto, they're not even referring him by name anymore, they simply call him the kyuubi jinchuriki. Since Pein is now sopposed to go after Naruto i geuss some light will shine on him again, but unless he goes kyuubi or recieves help or Pein is really weak, i cant see naruto pulling off a win in a one on one fight. Also, is it possible that Itachi could interfere with the Narutos capture? Naruto was his taget after all, and if you guys havent noticed, its almost as if Itachi has been procrastinating with Narutos capture, constantly comming up with excuses. The first was when he fought Kakashi and left because he didnt want to draw attention from any more ninjas, the second time was against Jiraiya, and the third was right after Kisami had captured the four tails and Itachi said its best to leave Naruto for last since he needs to be sealed last. Those are logical reasons for not being able to capture Naruto, but for someone of his caliber with a powerfull partner like Kisami by hios side, something just seems fishy.

2007-07-23, 20:47	Link #47
kheldorin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004	I think it's time for Kishi to reveal more about Naruto's past and somehow tie it to the characters that are present in this arc. It doesn't make sense for me for Naruto not asking who his parents were. Not really a big fan of AL is related to Naruto theories but if that's what it takes to bring the focus back to Naruto, then I think it should be done. Like BlackShinobi mentioned, I wasn't really impressed when the shadowy guy didn't know Naruto's name and even Kabutomaru wants to kill Sasuke first and actually helped Naruto. Seems a bit weird for the major villains to be gunning for someone that is not a lead character. I miss the days when all the villagers and shinobis thought little of Naruto and we could enjoy seeing Naruto proving all the villagers wrong and defeating all those shinobis. Part of the problem I think for post-timeskip Naruto is Yamato and Sai. They didn't add much to Naruto's character story and are not really interesting characters themselves.

2007-07-23, 20:51	Link #48
Hir0 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	i dunno bout this really, it seems alittle too fast. I mean, Shouldnt the Leader come out last to fight? He should have stayed shadowed till like 3 Akatsuki members left. from what i see, Akatsuki is like a mercenary group. The other shadow figure is just a client i think. Probally getting all the tailed beasts was to get enough money to advance. lol Tobi better be alive still

2007-07-23, 21:05	Link #49
carb Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	i think the sharingan in its strongest form is still stronger than w/e pain has, with reference to orochimaru's goal to capture the sharingan. Why would he settle for less if AL's eyes are stronger?

2007-07-23, 21:17	Link #50
That Other Ninja That Other Senior Member Artist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Michael Dudikoff's American Ninja Dojo Age: 40	laughs Why would he settles for less? He settled for less the minute he realized he couldn't take Itachi.

2007-07-24, 00:13	Link #56
PieWhatWhere The Baker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Irvine Age: 35	I for one am kind of sad deidara is dead now. I actually really like him.

2007-07-25, 10:07	Link #60
nightengale5385 .......... Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 38	I'll post the new spoiler pics here for ch.364 since the thread is closed 'til further notice Spoiler: From MangaHelpers: