(L) Monogatari Series Light Novel discussion

[Shikijin]

Originally Posted by omimon

Actually when Kuro first came out it was a bit of a scare because it wasn't exactly mindblowing. It was good that it picked up the quality in the next novel.

It wasn't mindblowing to you I like Hanekawa and I found Kuro one of the best book in the series Books like Kabuki for example feel like they have too much filler chat to draw things out, and books like Hana throw a character around and fail to make it relevant by the end of the book (although in the long scheme of things it may have a purpose).

Being based only on Araragi and Hanekawa, with some Oshino (plus a little Shinobu), Kuro instead is focused and very intense, and there is a bigger sense of mystery than in later books. It just has a long introduction (although it was very funny), but the rest is all meat.

[omimon]

Originally Posted by Shikijin

It wasn't mindblowing to you I like Hanekawa and I found Kuro one of the best book in the series Books like Kabuki for example feel like they have too much filler chat to draw things out, and books like Hana throw a character around and fail to make it relevant by the end of the book (although in the long scheme of things it may have a purpose).

Being based only on Araragi and Hanekawa, with some Oshino (plus a little Shinobu), Kuro instead is focused and very intense, and there is a bigger sense of mystery than in later books. It just has a long introduction (although it was very funny), but the rest is all meat.

I think the problem was the fact that we all knew the outcome. The conclusion of the novel have been talked about multiple times in the series and the only way it could have been good was the way it was presented. I admit the way Araragi defeated her was really clever but I just couldn't deal with the fact that I felt like i read the novel already before it even came out.

[Prime]

Originally Posted by omimon

I think the problem was the fact that we all knew the outcome. The conclusion of the novel have been talked about multiple times in the series and the only way it could have been good was the way it was presented. I admit the way Araragi defeated her was really clever but I just couldn't deal with the fact that I felt like i read the novel already before it even came out.

And what happened then in Kuro?

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Yeah, what you said is true, but being even more fair, you can see from a long distance that he (Nisio) doesn't know what end is more appropiate for this series. If he does, then this last novel just may have been another story about how much Nadeko does love Araragi, and the relationship between him, Shinobu, Hitagi and Hanekawa would be the priority.

That means that at this point, Nisio can't choose between two kinds of love (Hitagi or Tsubasa), or the bad end (Shinobu, whatever it can be).

[ubiquitial]

Originally Posted by Prime

And what happened then in Kuro?

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Yeah, what you said is true, but being even more fair, you can see from a long distance that he (Nisio) doesn't know what end is more appropiate for this series. If he does, then this last novel just may have been another story about how much Nadeko does love Araragi, and the relationship between him, Shinobu, Hitagi and Hanekawa would be the priority.

That means that at this point, Nisio can't choose between two kinds of love (Hitagi or Tsubasa), or the bad end (Shinobu, whatever it can be).

Kitty has nary a chance in hell. Crab however is delicious. Araragi can obtain MIRROR SHIELD as a random drop in a lvl.59 dungeon.

[endarion88]

Originally Posted by Prime

or the bad end (Shinobu, whatever it can be).

why shinobu bad end? to me it will be the best true ending

[Crimson7]

So I spent the whole day reading this thread. (I regret nothing!)

One thing I'm still bothered with what I read on this site, particularly the end: http://canonrap.wordpress.com/2010/1...basa-family-4/

Can someone enlighten me?

[omimon]

Originally Posted by Crimson7

So I spent the whole day reading this thread. (I regret nothing!)

One thing I'm still bothered with what I read on this site, particularly the end: http://canonrap.wordpress.com/2010/1...basa-family-4/

Can someone enlighten me?

What exactly is bothering you? Just saying "the end" doesn't really help.

[Crimson7]

Oh sorry.

I want to know what happens before, during and after that part. Since it's only an excerpt, I want to know how the situation came to be. What's with the "just die" x 9000 part?

[Shikijin]

Originally Posted by Crimson7

I want to know what happens before, during and after that part. Since it's only an excerpt, I want to know how the situation came to be. What's with the "just die" x 9000 part?

Spoiler for spoiler about the end of Nekomonogatari Kuro:

Basically, Hanekawa met a dead cat and got possessed by the "Sawari Neko" (Hindering Cat). She(he?) was too strong, and neither Araragi nor Oshino could stop her. For the final showdown Araragi begged Shinobu for help, and, still not speaking a word, Shinobu finally lent him her katana Kokorowatari (to be exact, Shinobu had yet to be called Shinobu at the time, but that's the name people know her by).

Araragi then used a sure-fire technique to lure Black Hanekawa to the cram school ruin, namely he sent a mail to Hanekawa's cellphone, saying he was assailed by a vampire and he needed help. Black Hanekawa got there quickly, and here the reader discovered Black Hanekawa was Hanekawa all along, she was just borrowing Sawari Neko's powers.

About that dialogue, it is difficult to compress the emotional development of the book in few lines, but let's say that Araragi was thinking that what he felt for Hanekawa could be called love. Araragi in the end understood what he was feeling was superior to love, he was willing to die for Hanekawa's sake. Araragi saw that what Hanekawa was doing as Black Hanekawa, even as a temporary stress relief, would have meant nothing in the long term. To help Hanekawa he provoked her into attacking him.

As the novel is told from Araragi's point of view, one cannot be sure about what Hanekawa felt at that point, but I guess that after having the person most close to her feeling no sympathy at all she was pretty desperate. I guess that killing Araragi for her would have been the same as killing herself, but she did it. She attacked Araragi. Araragi didn't even see the attack, he just realized later his upper body has been separated from the lower body. And then the cat was killed.

Araragi was hiding Kokorowatari inside his body. He had to be careful the pain didn't betray his plan. When the cat attacked, she was at the same time cut by the sword, and a Kaii who is cut by Kokorowatari is killed without fail. Hanekawa was defeated because she didn't know anything about Kokorowatari, as it was a secret between Araragi and Kissshot.

Araragi was indeed dying, but while fainting, not sure if it was real or an illusion, he saw Shinobu walking towards him, and Shinobu popped one of her arms and bathed him with vampire blood (which has regenerative power).

Obviously you know he lived because you heard about the sequels

In the end of the book Araragi is reflecting about how Hanekawa gave him the ability to love others. He was late for his lessons and he was running up the school stairs.

[Crimson7]

Thanks for that. I'm liking the novels more and more! I just wish I could read them on my own.

[Prime]

Well, when I said that the Shinobu End would be the Bado Endo, I meant that Nisio is constantly trying to say that "the more time they both pass together, the more time they will suffer", and that's something almost explicit in the end of Kizumonogatari.

[maddest]

Hello , is there some site where i can read Bakemonogatari Novels translated to English? I checked Baka Tsuki already - but there's almost nothing translated and translated one's were already in anime. I'm searching for Volume's that happens right after anime , is there a site/blog or something where i can find it? Also it is not licensed so there's no way u can buy it English-translated already so how do you guys know all about these stuff that happened after anime , u are Japanese language master's or just reading some short summary of Volume that u can sometimes find on Google?

[omimon]

Originally Posted by maddest

Hello , is there some site where i can read Bakemonogatari Novels translated to English? I checked Baka Tsuki already - but there's almost nothing translated and translated one's were already in anime. I'm searching for Volume's that happens right after anime , is there a site/blog or something where i can find it? Also it is not licensed so there's no way u can buy it English-translated already so how do you guys know all about these stuff that happened after anime , u are Japanese language master's or just reading some short summary of Volume that u can sometimes find on Google?

The only fully translated novel in the series in English is Kizu and that one hasn't been animated yet. For the other novels they haven't been translated yet and I'm pretty sure there is no secret site where they are and just hasn't been discovered yet. (Internet dwellers are good at discovering stuff.) Personally for me I read them in Chinese where they have been translated. I usually give a summary in point form of all the juicy stuff in the latest novel after I've finished reading it. Truth be told I think this forum is the best place to find spoilers since most other places including wikipedia is just taking whatever is said here and placing it there.

[maddest]

Ok , thank you. Tomorrow i'm gonna take my time and read all the 60 pages , oh man that's going to be hard and time consuming.

[Koncho]

Hi i just watched EP 12. and all the people was amazed after that Summer Triangle scene , but i don't really get it - they were just looking at the stars and saying things etc (yea that was really romantic btw) - but what's the real meaning behind that scene? i think i don't get it.. could someone explain to me this please?

[ubiquitial]

Originally Posted by Koncho

Hi i just watched EP 12. and all the people was amazed after that Summer Triangle scene , but i don't really get it - they were just looking at the stars and saying things etc (yea that was really romantic btw) - but what's the real meaning behind that scene? i think i don't get it.. could someone explain to me this please?

Don't worry, there is no deeper meaning. Your power level simply isn't high enough to fully appreciate it yet. People who generally read the twilight books won't enjoy Nabokov either.

[Koncho]

Yeah , but i thought that in Japanese culture Altair and Vega were lovers or something like that , doesn't it reflects somewhat Araragi and Senjougahara? also the ending song is somewhat about Altair and Vega somewhat :

"“That’s Deneb, Altair, Vega…”
you said as you pointed at The Summer Triangle.
As I looked at the sky,
I finally found Orihime-sama,
but where is Hikoboshi-sama I wonder?
Isn’t she lonely?"


I always thought that there is a deeper meaning behind the words of Hitagi and lyrics of Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari , but if you say so...

[Shikijin]

Originally Posted by omimon

The only fully translated novel in the series in English is Kizu and that one hasn't been animated yet. For the other novels they haven't been translated yet and I'm pretty sure there is no secret site where they are and just hasn't been discovered yet.

Well, the net is still full of surprises. It seems CanonRap wants to translate all of Nise. I offered to doublecheck his translation; he told me people are pushing him to post on BakaTsuki, and I seconded that.

By the way, I even found a guy who is translating Zaregoto (!).

[omimon]

Summary of Otori

Spoiler:

-The book starts out with a profile of Nadeko like her height, weight and favourite things
-The actual story then begins with Nadeko under the floor board of the white snake shrine
-She starts talking to a snake that is coiled around her wrist like a bracelet
-She calls the snake Kuchinawa-san
-He tells her that everything that has happened up till now is her fault
-She then hears a set of footsteps
-The shrine above her suddenly gets destroyed and she sees that it’s raining
- Kuchinawa-san then reminds her that the whole reason she was under the floor board was because she was trying to get away from the rain
-The owner of the footsteps is now standing in front of her, it’s Araragi
-He says hi and tells her he is here to kill her
-Araragi has wounds all over him and is covered in blood
- Kuchinawa-san reminds her that she was the one who gave him those wounds
-The reason why Araragi isn’t healing is because poison effects vampires and it weakens them
-Nadeko stands up and prepares for battle
-In her right hand it’s Kuchinawa-san and in her left it’s a giant fang
-Her hair is also snakes and she is in control of all one hundred thousand of them
-Standing next to Araragi is Shinobu and she comments on how Nadeko has completely fallen into the ranks of Kaiis or rather risen since she has become a goddess
-She tells Araragi not to hesitate since Nadeko is no longer his little sister’s friend nor his cute kouhai but an evil, unsaveable Kaii
-Araragi says he understands and admits Nadako is his enemy and Shinobu’s meal, he tells her to eat Nadeko
-Nadeko says she hates Araragi and thrusts the fang straight into Araragi’s heart
-The snakes on her head cheers in victory and Nadeko starts laughing
-She questions how all this came to be
-We get a flashback to October 31 and Nadeko is walking to school
-She is depressed about having to go to school
-She then sees a bike that is about to crash into her but the rider suddenly puts a trick and the bike and the rider flies above Nadeko’s head
-The bike crashes land on another spot and Nadeko goes and see if everything is alright
-The rider turns out to be a girl
-The rider sits up and asks Nadeko if she was alright
-Nadeko is shocked that the girl knows her name
-The girl realized what she said and mentioned that she shouldn’t know Nadeko yet
-She says something about messing up the order and it’s because she couldn’t find Hachikuji
-She introduces herself as Oshino Ougi
-She says that she is Araragi and Kanbaru’s kouhai and that calms Nadeko down
-She gives Nadeko her hand and tells her she is Oshino’s niece
-She gives a speech about how victims can’t remain victims forever and that sometimes they are the perpetrators
-She gets on her bike and leaves
-Nadeko realizes that she completely ignored Ougi’s hand and she explains that she hates being touched and hates the feeling of having someone else’s body temperature mixing with her own
-She gets to school and tries to get her indoor shoes
-She thought she felt a snake in her shoebox but when she checked she doesn’t see anything
-She goes to her classroom and she sees the reason why she gets depressed when going to school
-It turns out that the whole class that she is in was greatly affected by the curse craze that happened in June caused by Kaiki
-Who like who, who hates who, everyone knows how the other people in class felt about them and everyone’s relationship with everyone else was in ruins
-Nadeko gets to her desk and she sees a snake within but it quickly disappears
-After school she phones Araragi and tells him everything
-He tells her to meet him at night because that’s when Shinobu is awake and they can ask her for help
-He says he could have asked Hanekawa too but she is away
-It turns out that the reason Nadeko ran away when she and Hanekawa first met was because she could feel the warmth of Hanekawa through the air and she couldn’t stand it
-It turns out she left for a month in order to travel the world and prepare for the real deal after she graduates
-She finishes talking with him and as she reaches for her phone card a snake appears on it
-She got surprised and she knocks over the phone
-A voice appears from it and countless snakes as well
-The snakes disappears and the voice tell her to come to the snake shrine
-She goes back home for a change of clothes and then heads for the shrine
-When she gets there she sees countless snakes chopped up and pinned to the trees and ground
-The voice then appears and tells her she was the one who did this
-She counters by saying she didn’t go this far
-A majority of the snakes then disappear only around 20 are left, she then covers her eyes with her hat
-The voice comments that they way Nadeko shifts down her eyesight and keeps silent allows her to remain as a victim
-The voice then gives her two choices, one is to go home and forget everything that she have seen and the second is look forward and atone for what she have done
-She pulls her hat up and looks forward and she sees a giant snake
-The snake then greets her and says they are now partners
-Nadeko admits that she is a mass murderer and a perpetrator
- Kuchinawa-san tells her he wants her to do something for him to atone for all the snakes that she killed and she accepts
-At night she phones Araragi again to tell him everything is alright and that it was just her imagination
- Kuchinawa-san shrunk himself and is now the size of a bracelet and is being worn on Nadeko’s hand
- Kuchinawa-san tells her that he is the god of the shrine but since no one goes there anymore it has lost its praise
-He tells her that what he wants her to do is find his remains
-The next day Nadeko goes to school again
- Kuchinawa-san keeps talking to her and she leaves her classroom in order to head for the highest floor of her school
-She tells him to shut up and that she is a shy quiet girl who will become a “pitiful child” if she starts talking to her wrist
- Kuchinawa-san says that since she doesn’t talk to anyone else anyways so it doesn’t matter what other people think of her
-She reminds him that their agreement was that during the day she’ll have her usual life and they go searching for his remains at night
-We flashback to last night
- Kuchinawa-san explains that the shrine basically was dead but when Shinobu came she brought along of “junk” with her and it revived him
-However he can’t stay forever and he has been using the “junk” in the shrine as energy
-However all of the energy was suddenly used up for a pointless matter
-The person who used it all up was Shinobu
-The remains will act as another energy source
- Kuchinawa-san currently is bonded with Nadeko and is using her as an energy source, this however can’t last forever
- Kuchinawa-san tells her that the only reason why he chose her is because he had no choice and that she was the only person with enough “fate” with him
-She asks him if he has any leads and he says he has no idea where or what it looks like
-We go back to when Nadeko just left her classroom and is on the top floor of her school
- Kuchinawa-san promise that he’ll shut up when people are around
-Her homeroom teacher appears and asks her what she is doing up there
-She says it’s nothing and then kept silent
-He lets her go and tells her to get back to class
-He then asks her about the favour he asked from her
-She doesn’t really say anything and he tells her he’s counting on her
-He reveals that Nadeko is the class-rep of her class
-Once he leaves Kuchinawa-san starts talking again and comments on how she’s the class-rep
-The position was pretty much push onto her
-The favour the teacher asked from her was to fix the atmosphere of the class
- Kuchinawa-san worries that her jobs at school will affect the favour he is asking from her
-She tells him it’s no problem since whether it’s the teacher’s favour or the jobs at comes with being a class-rep, she hasn’t done any of it
-That night she sneaks out in order to find Kuchinawa-san’s remains
-He tells her that she just needs to walk around and he’ll detect his remains
-He suddenly starts vibrating and tells her to head towards a certain direction
-They get to a park and Nadeko starts digging in the sandbox
-However even when they reached the bottom they couldn’t find anything
-Looks like it was a false alarm
-She starts filling up the holes and when she was done started playing with the sand
-Araragi then suddenly appeared in front of her
-He takes her to his room and gives her a stern talking to
-Turns out her parents found out she was gone and phoned Tsukihi, she lied and said Nadeko is staying with her for the night
-Araragi overheard and went out to look for her
-He questions her if she is actually hiding something from him
-She lies to him again and he believes her
-He tells her it’s getting late and that she should rest
-He left for a bit and comes back with a yukata
-He tells her she should stay for the night
-It seems he went into his little sister’s room, took out the yukata from the drawers, checked up on their sleeping faces, and came back with the clothing
-Nadeko thought that there was an unnecessary step stuck in between what he said
-She asks where she is going to sleep and he says that there isn’t any extra rooms so she’ll sleep here
-He tells her that she should be tired so she should use the bed
-Nadeko says she doesn’t want to kick Araragi out but he tells her not to worry since the bed is big enough for two people
-Instantaneously Shinobu comes out of his shadow and knocks him out with an uppercut
-Shinobu tells her that it was close or else Nadeko would end up being pregnant at her age
-She comments on how cute Nadeko is but adds that she is still second only to her
-She says she realizes why Araragi is so attracted to her
-Shinobu comments on how being cute can be a weapon, and that she wields both actual power and cuteness
-As she is leaving the room carrying Araragi she turns to Nadeko and says she’s lucky that she just happens to be cute
-Nadeko wakes up the next day with Tsukihi wrapped around her
-Tsukihi wakes up and jumps off when she sees its Nadeko who she’s hugging, she thought the person who she was holding was Araragi
-Nadeko is afraid that she caused a misunderstanding with Tsukihi since she’s wearing her yukata and sleeping in Araragi’s bed
-With Tsuhiki being a giant brocon pissing her off means making an enemy with every middle schooler in the area
-Nadeko thanks her for what she did last night
-Nadeko has her head down and Tsukihi tells her since she’s so cute she shouldn’t hide it
-Tsukihi says although she is second only to her
-She tells Nadeko that when they were in second grade the first time she saw her she knew she had to be friends with her since she was so cute
-Nadeko blurs out the question of if she wasn’t cute then would Tsukihi still have been friends with her
-Tsukihi is confused by the question and presses Nadeko into making herself clear
-Nadeko keeps saying sorry but Tsukihi wouldn’t let her go
-Tsukihi makes an Azumanga reference and Nadeko gives in and tells her that someone told her she was lucky that she just happens to be cute
-Tsukihi tells her that it’s just jealously
-She asks Nadeko if she dislike being cute and she says it makes her feel like it’s the only thing she has
-Tsukihi gives a whole speech and calls Nadeko an idiot and there is nothing wrong with Nadeko being only cute
-They get to the topic of who Nadeko likes and she admits it’s Araragi
-She confirms that she likes him from an opponent sex point of view and Tsukihi says that he has a girlfriend
-Turns out Nadeko knew about it a long time ago
-She’s seem him with multiple girls but there was one who stood out
-Araragi has also been seen carrying Karen on his shoulder multiple times
-Tsuhiki then questions her about how she can still love him despite him having a girlfriend
-For Nadeko loving someone is a way for her to feel better
-Tsukihi tells her that the reason why she is with her boyfriend is because he told her that calling someone “oniichan” despite having feelings for him makes it meaningless
-Tsukihi feels that Nadeko doesn’t have enough reason to like Araragi
-She also questions her on why she refer to herself in first-person
-Nadeko starts talking about how she doesn’t want to make trouble for Araragi and Tsuhiki goes and grabs a certain stationary
-Tsukihi tells her she’s grown tired of Nadeko’s love and she cuts off Nadeko’s bangs
-Nadeko screams
-An hour has passed and Nadeko is shown walking wobbly towards school
-She searches her memory bank about what just happened
-After hearing Nadeko scream Araragi comes rushing in and sends Tsukihi flying
-He tries to calm her down and calls for Karen to take her somewhere safe
-He wants to have some alone time with Tsukihi and he says what he’s going to do with Tsukihi’s body is not going to be children friendly
-Karen comes and tries her best to fix Nadeko’s hair
- Kuchinawa-san starts talking to her again and she asks him why he didn’t safe her and he says it wasn’t a place where he could do anything
- Kuchinawa-san tells her that if she really does care about her bangs so much then he could maybe do something about it
-Since he is a god his job is to grant wishes so if she is able to find his remains he could give her bangs back
-He also tells her he knows where his remains are but he’ll leave it until tonight
-When she got to school her teacher approached her and asks if she has done anything about his favour
-She does her usual technique of looking down but this time her teacher isn’t letting her go
-She realizes that with her bangs cut people can see her face and her expressions
-Nadeko snaps and tells him to shut up
-She goes and tells him it isn’t a job that should be given to a middle-schooler and it should be solved by a teacher like him instead
-She goes to her classroom and when asked what she’s doing she says she doing the favour he asked her to do
-She kicks the door in and starts lecturing her class
-She tells them that no matter what they think the time they spent in this classroom will be remembered forever and they should fix it
-She leaves school early
-She tell Kuchinawa-san that there is no point in waiting for night anymore so he should just tell her where his remains are now
-He says it in Araragi’s house
-She gets there and sees that the doors are locked
- Kuchinawa-san opens the lock and says he has the ability to break barriers
-She goes up to Araragi’s room and starts searching
-While she is doing that she starts to think about what Tsukihi said and she begin to think that she started liking Araragi in order to be closer to Tsukihi
-She opens Araragi’s bottom desk draw and finds porn mags
-She starts reading them and every page too
-While she’s reading Kuchinawa-san asks her why she refers to herself in first person and she tells him to think for himself
-He says that it because she has no sense of self
-She gets to the third mag and a bookmark falls out
- Kuchinawa-san tells her to pick up the bookmark
-The thing has a drawing of a snake biting its tail
-She concludes that it’s an ofuda and not a bookmark
- Kuchinawa-san says they’ve found it and all she needs to do is eat it
-In order to show his gratitude he’ll grant her more things including the hair
-She says she wants to be together with Araragi and just when she finished, Araragi appears behind her and tells her that’s going to be hard
-Araragi keeps telling her to drop the ofuda and that it’s a really dangerous object
-Shinobu however is less calm and starts to insult her and tells Araragi to just steal it back
-The ofuda seems to be from Gaen Izuko
-After that Nadeko then sees that the thing on her hand is just a band, a band used to tie up hair
-She puts the ofuda in her mouth and she eats it
-Araragi tells her she can still turn back but Shinobu says it’s too late and she rushes in to eat her
-Nadeko’s hair turns into snakes and pins Shinobu down and starts biting her
-Araragi comes in and pulls Shinobu out
-Nadeko pulls out one of her hair and the snake turns into a giant fang and she stabs Araragi with it
-The story goes back to present time where Nadeko is at the shrine
-Both Araragi and Shinobu have been defeated and both of their skin is black from the poison
-She says that it would have been good if they didn’t chase her when she ran away and that they are too weak
-She asks Kuchinawa-san how this came to be and he says it’s all her fault
- Kuchinawa-san is a Kaii that was revived a couple hours ago when Nadeko ate that ofuda
-It seems that Kuchinawa-san started out as nothing more than her delusions
-All of the things she saw were just there to give her delusions some story
-The reason why Kuchinawa-san knew so much about Kaiis when Nadeko didn’t was because back In June when she was researching on how to get rid of her curse she read up on a lot of stuff and even though she doesn’t know it she subconsciously retained the information
-Because of the delusions Nadeko’s memories have holes in them
-Her delusions started in September when she found out Araragi had a girlfriend and she started going crazy
-She wanted to get rid of that girl so she started praying
-She went to the snake shrine whenever she had time
-However since that shrine already lost everything praying there was useless
-It was then revealed that Ougi was the one who told Nadeko everything
-She told her that the shrine had no god but if it came back then it’ll be different
-She tells her the object is with Araragi, it’s a piece of paper and all she needs to do is a catch a snake and feed the object to it
-After that Nadeko would be able to have her wish granted
-Even the band on her wrist was a gift from Ougi to represent their relationship
-The way she opened the door to Araragi’s house was using the actual keys
-She deliberately let her parents catch her sneaking out and wanted them to phone Tsuhiki
-She got into their house that night and she was able to get herself the key in which she could use the next day during the day when everyone was away
-She could have searched of the ofuda that night too but she worried if Tsukihi might come in suddenly in which she actually did
-Shinobu starts talking again and Nadeko strikes her until she got quiet again
-She goes towards Araragi and decides to kill him
-Just when she is about to deal the final blow she hears vibrating sound
-It the phone coming from Araragi and she picks up
-It’s Senjougahara
-She asks if her man is alive and Nadeko says currently still is
-She says she save it and Nadeko responds by saying unless she can get here within one second she didn’t save anything
-She says that had Nadeko killed Araragi then Senjougahara would have had to become a murderer and what she saved was her future
-She wants to trade her life for Araragi and Shinobu’s
-Technically she doesn’t care for Shinobu but since she is Araragi’s treasure if she is gone there is no point in Araragi living
-Nadeko says its impossible since she plans on killing all of them
-She then tells Nadeko if that is the case then the order is important since if Araragi dies first then Shinobu will get her powers back and a small character such as Nadeko would get swallowed in an instant
-More importantly she needs to kill Senjougahara first since if she don’t then she’ll kill everyone
-When asked what she meant by everyone she says she meant everyone
-She then asks for a favour and since Nadeko is now the owner of the shrine and a goddess she should listen to the wishes of a civilian like Senjougahara
-Nadeko tells her she’ll listen and Senjougahara says she wants to postpone their deaths until graduation since she doesn’t want all her effort to go to waste
-Nadeko agrees and tells her that right after the ceremony they need to come straight to the shrine
-Nadeko then tells her that had they met under different circumstances maybe they could have been friends and Senjougahara disagrees saying she hates cute brats like her
-Senjougahara then hangs up and Nadeko does so as well thinking the same thing
-A while after this all happens Nadeko starts thinking about what happened afterwards with her class, such as if they finally turned back to what they were in the beginning
-She also starts thinking about her parents
-We then jump to March on the day of Araragi’s graduation
-She is sitting on the shrine’s coin collection box and the band that used to be on her hand is now used to make a ponytail with her snake hair
-The shrine is also going to be rebuilt
-When it was a mess no one gave it any attention but when it was completely destroyed people started paying attention
-Three people, Senjougahara, Araragi and Shinobu is now approaching the shrine
-Shinobu is at an age where she’s near Araragi’s
-She wished that Hanekawa and Kanbaru would have appeared too so it would have seem like all characters have gathered in order to fight the last boss
-She stands up and welcomes them

[ubiquitial]

God we need more Senjougahara.