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Keroko · 2013-01-08, 14:56

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Originally Posted by Sansker

I know what you say, but we can't really learn much from images.

As a graphic/video editor, my mind is just screaming "WRONG!!" right now.

Images, like any other medium, convey a lot of information. Just looking at the untranslated raws already tells us the general story of the chapter, like in the latest raw were we get to see more of Ancient Belka, for example.

Sansker · 2013-01-08, 16:14

Of course. Things like manga, anime, etc. are all visual media. We have to see the images and we do can learn more from them but what I mean is that the writing is also an important part and a bad dialogue can kill even the most beautiful drawn mangas. Maybe is not “learn much” as “learning all” what I should have use, my bad. But I still stand by my point there.

On that regard I do want to read and learn what is all about Sieg.

krisslanza · 2013-01-08, 16:17

If we'll get some scans/translations anytime soon. I've only seen up to 33... I don't even know how many I'm actually behind on.

Sansker · 2013-01-08, 17:09

I am up to Record 43, spanish translation is just one or two numbers behind the raw scans

Sunder the Gold · 2013-01-08, 22:42

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Originally Posted by Keroko

in the latest raw were we get to see more of Ancient Belka, for example.

More anachronistic stone castles and mounted horses?

Sansker · 2013-01-08, 22:47

Well to be fair most of the time we had a flashback with Olive or Klaus is to a bunch of ruins that kind of look like a battlerfield or a summer hourse for rich people so there is that

Sunder the Gold · 2013-01-08, 22:51

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Originally Posted by Sansker

Well to be fair most of the time we had a flashback with Olive or Klaus is to a bunch of ruins that kind of look like a battlerfield or a summer hourse for rich people so there is that

Doesn't so much explain the footsoldiers wielding simple swords and clad in metal armor.

Not one of them looks like a mage, and non-mages can be given better equipment in an era of space-faring battleships.

Hell, by the time ViVid was published, we know the Belkans had robots and one of their enemies had cyber-zombies. Why didn't we see THOSE forces doing battle?

Sansker · 2013-01-08, 23:06

That is because they are not mage, they are knights and a knight without a horse, a metal armor and medieval looking is a poor want to be, I guess... it really never made much sense to me either

Besides generic battlefields serve to illustrate those are the War Ages, where everyone is in war as the Saint Kaisers want to rebuild the Belkan Empire and everyone else seems to not be in to that.

00-Raiser · 2013-01-11, 20:39

New chapter is out.

For supposedly being intelligent, Vivio is an idiot. "I'll just keep attacking straight on even though she's doing way more damage to me and I'll run out of life at this rate!"

Sansker · 2013-01-11, 21:03

Well to be fair that is how everyone else deals with any opponent they have.

00-Raiser · 2013-01-11, 21:33

I meant that she continued attacking at close range and going blow for blow. She should have kept her distance and kept attacking with magic blasts. Plus she's relying far too much on a technique that's outright stated to be incomplete.

Sansker · 2013-01-11, 23:32

Well is not like she didn't give a figth. I will give the manga that much. While I still consider the result of the fight a fail it wasn't as one sided as Einhart's.

Kaijo · 2013-01-11, 23:39

It's nitpicking, but I'm kinda disliking this "Fast Draw" name for Miura's attacks. Fast draw is supposed to be the name of when a samurai draws their sword and attacks in the same move. But you can't really draw your arms and legs, since they are already out. Give it a name like "Living Blade" or "Sword Edge" or something. It's late, so I can't think of a better name at the moment.

Anyway, just nitpicking.

00-Raiser · 2013-01-12, 00:23

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Originally Posted by Sansker

Well is not like she didn't give a figth. I will give the manga that much. While I still consider the result of the fight a fail it wasn't as one sided as Einhart's.

Right, but she didn't fight smarter so it's no wonder she lost.

Sansker · 2013-01-12, 01:53

We can discuss over that but in the end her lost did come out as something odd. But Kaijo is right, Miura’s attack were kind of funny name when you consider her first opponent was a girl with an actual sword that did use the style of draw her sword and attack before putting it on the scabbard again. I mean when I read about Miura’s “sword” I was under the impression the writer, the artist and the editor weren’t talking to each other while making those chapters.

Keroko · 2013-01-12, 05:26

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Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

New chapter is out.

For supposedly being intelligent, Vivio is an idiot. "I'll just keep attacking straight on even though she's doing way more damage to me and I'll run out of life at this rate!"

As Vita notes, backing off would expose Vivio to a Sword Draw.

00-Raiser · 2013-01-12, 10:41

In which case it'd still be a matter of keeping her distance. Sword Draw is no good if her attacks don't hit.

But in the end Vivio just ran out of luck. Miura is just a lot better at what she does than Vivio is.

Keroko · 2013-01-12, 11:19

Sword Draw is a mid-range attack, shooting forward at breakneck speed. Based on iaido, remember? Moving away only works when you move far, far away. A tactic that a fighting ring doesn't allow.

It really is the perfect skill for tournaments like these, as anywhere in the ring that isn't right next to you is within the range of your super skill. You're forcing the enemy to choose: Take your hammer punches? Or move away and hope they can dodge or block your one-hit killer attack?

Sansker · 2013-01-12, 11:41

I still say that can be avoided moving to the side. I mean is what I will do, Miura can’t change de direction of her kick and just step a couple of centimeter to the left or the right and there it goes super-killing move.

But there is something that I always consider weird. By the end of episode 33 Vivio was ready to use a super attack but when we return to the fight on chapter 34 (After two rather pointless scenes with “Victor” and Chantez) she never use it. So what was with that? The author decided on that moment that Miura will win so he stops Vivio? Strange. Also by the end Vivio did had a chance to win by hitting Miura with her electric fist but she does hit her and the attack does nothing… talking about convenience.

Keroko · 2013-01-12, 12:39

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Originally Posted by Sansker

Miura can’t change de direction of her kick

Says who?

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Originally Posted by Sansker

But there is something that I always consider weird. By the end of episode 33 Vivio was ready to use a super attack but when we return to the fight on chapter 34 (After two rather pointless scenes with “Victor” and Chantez) she never use it.

You do, actually. The attack you see her fire is on page 6 exactly what she was charging.

Also, I laugh at how you once again swing like a pendulum and call the character development scenes of people just talking, which is exactly what you were asking for, pointless now.

2013-01-08, 16:14	Link #2442
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	Of course. Things like manga, anime, etc. are all visual media. We have to see the images and we do can learn more from them but what I mean is that the writing is also an important part and a bad dialogue can kill even the most beautiful drawn mangas. Maybe is not “learn much” as “learning all” what I should have use, my bad. But I still stand by my point there. On that regard I do want to read and learn what is all about Sieg. __________________

2013-01-08, 16:17	Link #2443
krisslanza Sleep beneath the flowers Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lording above all of humanity >;3 Age: 34	If we'll get some scans/translations anytime soon. I've only seen up to 33... I don't even know how many I'm actually behind on. __________________

2013-01-08, 17:09	Link #2444
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	I am up to Record 43, spanish translation is just one or two numbers behind the raw scans __________________

2013-01-08, 22:47	Link #2446
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	Well to be fair most of the time we had a flashback with Olive or Klaus is to a bunch of ruins that kind of look like a battlerfield or a summer hourse for rich people so there is that __________________

2013-01-08, 23:06	Link #2448
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	That is because they are not mage, they are knights and a knight without a horse, a metal armor and medieval looking is a poor want to be, I guess... it really never made much sense to me either Besides generic battlefields serve to illustrate those are the War Ages, where everyone is in war as the Saint Kaisers want to rebuild the Belkan Empire and everyone else seems to not be in to that. __________________

2013-01-11, 20:39	Link #2449
00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	New chapter is out. For supposedly being intelligent, Vivio is an idiot. "I'll just keep attacking straight on even though she's doing way more damage to me and I'll run out of life at this rate!" __________________

2013-01-11, 21:03	Link #2450
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	Well to be fair that is how everyone else deals with any opponent they have. __________________

2013-01-11, 21:33	Link #2451
00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	I meant that she continued attacking at close range and going blow for blow. She should have kept her distance and kept attacking with magic blasts. Plus she's relying far too much on a technique that's outright stated to be incomplete. __________________

2013-01-11, 23:32	Link #2452
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	Well is not like she didn't give a figth. I will give the manga that much. While I still consider the result of the fight a fail it wasn't as one sided as Einhart's. __________________

2013-01-11, 23:39	Link #2453
Kaijo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.	It's nitpicking, but I'm kinda disliking this "Fast Draw" name for Miura's attacks. Fast draw is supposed to be the name of when a samurai draws their sword and attacks in the same move. But you can't really draw your arms and legs, since they are already out. Give it a name like "Living Blade" or "Sword Edge" or something. It's late, so I can't think of a better name at the moment. Anyway, just nitpicking.

2013-01-12, 01:53	Link #2455
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	We can discuss over that but in the end her lost did come out as something odd. But Kaijo is right, Miura’s attack were kind of funny name when you consider her first opponent was a girl with an actual sword that did use the style of draw her sword and attack before putting it on the scabbard again. I mean when I read about Miura’s “sword” I was under the impression the writer, the artist and the editor weren’t talking to each other while making those chapters. __________________

2013-01-12, 10:41	Link #2457
00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	In which case it'd still be a matter of keeping her distance. Sword Draw is no good if her attacks don't hit. But in the end Vivio just ran out of luck. Miura is just a lot better at what she does than Vivio is. __________________

2013-01-12, 11:19	Link #2458
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Sword Draw is a mid-range attack, shooting forward at breakneck speed. Based on iaido, remember? Moving away only works when you move far, far away. A tactic that a fighting ring doesn't allow. It really is the perfect skill for tournaments like these, as anywhere in the ring that isn't right next to you is within the range of your super skill. You're forcing the enemy to choose: Take your hammer punches? Or move away and hope they can dodge or block your one-hit killer attack?

2013-01-12, 11:41	Link #2459
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	I still say that can be avoided moving to the side. I mean is what I will do, Miura can’t change de direction of her kick and just step a couple of centimeter to the left or the right and there it goes super-killing move. But there is something that I always consider weird. By the end of episode 33 Vivio was ready to use a super attack but when we return to the fight on chapter 34 (After two rather pointless scenes with “Victor” and Chantez) she never use it. So what was with that? The author decided on that moment that Miura will win so he stops Vivio? Strange. Also by the end Vivio did had a chance to win by hitting Miura with her electric fist but she does hit her and the attack does nothing… talking about convenience. __________________