Steins;Gate - Episode 13 Discussion / Poll

[Iby]

Originally Posted by Riga92

Actually, I believe Iby was referring to the Nitro+ game Sumaga, which I think also features a main protaganist who can time travel.

Yeah, you're right. The first was Sumaga, then scriptwriter of Steins;Gate asked the scriptwriter of Sumaga to help him with the time loop questions... and only then was Madoka.

[ninryu]

Now Okarin is Homura. And it's not funny. Not one a bit.

[Ziziphus]

Originally Posted by tomtkp

It is also normal for Okarin to think that he should let Mayuri stay by his side because he probably feels that if he does not let Mayuri to stay by his side,maybe she will get killed randomly either when she heads back to Lab or on the way home.It's better for Mayuri to follow him and leave Akihabara (Okarin's thinking) to avoid this mess.

Yeah, if Mayuri is fated to die in this world line and can be killed by reasons other than SERN, it wouldn't matter whether Okabe is with her or not. So it's still better for him to be with her.

[-Sho-]

Anyone noticed that Young Okarin was much bigger specially his face ? ;D
Anyway , i think that he have to deal with Moeka first , maybe like that - he'll meet & follow her & save the others.

[ahelo]

Short Impression

Tutturu died 3 times counting the recap.

[spawnofthejudge]

Awesome show is awesome.

Originally Posted by RadiantBeam

...since otherwise Okarin would have also been concerned about saving Kurisu...

Originally Posted by RadiantBeam

Mostly, I think he left them out of his last two loops because he wanted to keep them safe from harm as well, and he probably didn't want to put them at risk by asking for their help. It's only a matter of time before Kurisu, at least, figures things out though, considering how in each time line she knew something was up.

Most of Okarin's weaknesses in his attempt to Set this Right lie in trying to keep his friends away from the event. Does he think that SERN won't go after Daru and Kurisu?

I think there's another reason Okarin keeps Mayuri by his side beyond the not letting her out of my sight problem. If he sends her away from him, how would he even know if she died or not.

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by Ziziphus

I'm pretty sure Ruka still used "boku" after the gender change, so it's nothing out of the ordinary.

My, this episode moved me deeply! I like it better than Madoka ep 10. The flashback between Mayuri and Okabe is heart-wrenching. Please Okabe, use your mad scientist power to save her, no matter what!

So some possible ways Okabe can save Mayuri:

1. Timeleap further back.
2. Ask for other lab members' help.
3. Use d-mail to change the timeline.

or some sort of combination.

Yeah, there's still hope, plenty if it.

i can think of 1 more: Make Mayuri more useful to SERN...maybe that will help.
Judging by 1 episode only zzz(because i havent ask my bro to watch together), Mayuri get shot in episode 12 is because she was not useful. So bring that over, Mayuri must become useful to SERN(after that not my range of arguement)

[Dist]

Originally Posted by gecd

I live in japan so I always watched the RAW

okabe has decided to not use D-mail anymore

So what? You're putting Episode 13 events in an Episode 13 thread. Everyone who will open this thread will know that it contains information about Episode 13 ; No sane person who doesn't want to get spoiled would open this thread, so putting things in spoiler tags makes no sense. Additionally, the subbed version of this RAW you watch airs in 1 hour after it's air date on Japan on Crunchyroll ....

Also the last sentence doesn't make any sense. When did he decide that? Even if he decided that, he's already using time leap. Besides, his best friend died, would he really care about preserving the past so much that he would not change it once more with a d-mail to save Mayuri? I doubt.

[LKK]

Originally Posted by Scarletknive

So bring that over, Mayuri must become useful to SERN(after that not my range of arguement)

As long as Okarin is only time leaping, it's too late to make Mayuri useful to SERN. He can only time leap back 48 hours maximum. I'm sure SERN had already decided she was useless before then. Now if he uses D-mail to send a message further back, then there could be enough time to make Mayuri useful to SERN. But I 't think Okarin is too emotionally upset right now to think things through that rationally.

[karuroso]

Originally Posted by Dist

Also the last sentence doesn't make any sense. When did he decide that? Even if he decided that, he's already using time leap. Besides, his best friend died, would he really care about preserving the past so much that he would not change it once more with a d-mail to save Mayuri? I doubt.

I think it's not like he decided he won't use anymore but he conluded the D-mail is way too unpredictable, what if he used the D-mail and the result is worse, like everyone dead with the microwave far from his reach? Changing this would be I think harder than going back with the time leap.

[jeroz]

Originally Posted by Mentar

I'm beginning to wonder if FB may be the abbreviation for a _project_ rather than an organization or person. Like, an effort to undo something in the past to change the future. But she's shown no restraint shooting Mayuri and Chris, or using a car to run Mayuri over.

Or maybe Mr Braun is called Frank

[Spat]

Wew, this episode had me sitting on the egde on my seat for twenty minutes straight, it was filled with tension. But why must Mayuri die?! WHY!?

And I always thought that Suzuha was badass, but that fighting scene, just wow...

[Dist]

Originally Posted by karuroso

I think it's not like he decided he won't use anymore but he conluded the D-mail is way too unpredictable, what if he used the D-mail and the result is worse, like everyone dead with the microwave far from his reach? Changing this would be I think harder than going back with the time leap.

If you sent a dmail to make it so that the microwave was never even built, in the new timeline if it was never built, SERN would never be interested in them so why would Mayuri die even in that timeline?

[gecd]

Originally Posted by Dist

If you sent a dmail to make it so that the microwave was never even built, in the new timeline if it was never built, SERN would never be interested in them so why would Mayuri die even in that timeline?

what makes you so sure that SERN interested in them because the microwave?

Originally Posted by Dist

So what? You're putting Episode 13 events in an Episode 13 thread. Everyone who will open this thread will know that it contains information about Episode 13 ; No sane person who doesn't want to get spoiled would open this thread, so putting things in spoiler tags makes no sense. Additionally, the subbed version of this RAW you watch airs in 1 hour after it's air date on Japan on Crunchyroll ....

so this is serious business huh?
I just tried to be carefull
because I got infracted recently ( even if it just missunderstanding )

[Dist]

It's not that serious, it's just annoying. You probably got infracted for a different reason (VN Spoiler?). Posting Episode 13 details in a thread for Ep13 needs no spoiler tags lol.

As for your question ; If you made it so that the microwave was never built, how would SERN be aware of Okarin and his '' power '' - if it can be called that. Anyway, I don't see a reason for Mayuri to die. Not if they send the dmail, but not in the current timeline either. It's not like she's a threat to them or something.

[karuroso]

Or he could send a D-mail saying to not approach Moeka or saying she's from SERN but right now he isn't in his perfect state of mind to make those decisions D= or so it seems

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by LKK

As long as Okarin is only time leaping, it's too late to make Mayuri useful to SERN. He can only time leap back 48 hours maximum. I'm sure SERN had already decided she was useless before then. Now if he uses D-mail to send a message further back, then there could be enough time to make Mayuri useful to SERN. But I 't think Okarin is too emotionally upset right now to think things through that rationally.

It doesn't matter anyway. As we've seen in this episode, Mayuri will still die even if SERN doesn't find her. That's her fate. Save her from SERN, and she'll get run over by a subway. Keep her away from the subway and she'll probably get struck by lightning or something equally ridiculous.

Okarin needs to get to the bottom of the problem, which seems to be that the universe wants Mayuri dead. Guess the universe can't handle this much moe.

[Solace]

Originally Posted by Dist

It's not that serious, it's just annoying. You probably got infracted for a different reason (VN Spoiler?). Posting Episode 13 details in a thread for Ep13 needs no spoiler tags lol.

Correct. What is NOT allowed is any kind of spoilers, hints, or "clever" writing just so you can get away with spoiling or hinting at spoilers. Simply put.....if you have future knowledge of events, discuss it in the spoiler thread. Don't be "that guy" who annoys everyone because you know what will happen and can't help but tell everyone regardless of if they asked or not.

The ONLY instance where you can discuss source material in an adaptation is when comparing the two as it pertains to events that have already happened in both. However also be prepared to acknowledge that just because it didn't happen in the adaptation that doesn't mean it won't happen. Sometimes studios will skip around events and mix them up.

So in case it wasn't clear....always be mindful of spoilers.

[CatOfTime]

Originally Posted by karuroso

Or he could send a D-mail saying to not approach Moeka or saying she's from SERN but right now he isn't in his perfect state of mind to make those decisions D= or so it seems

Would be fun to see how different the world would be if Okabe never took Moeka to the lab... would SERN still know about them... how they know etc.

[blakstealth]

fuck, man. Now he's gotta make a contract.