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Forecast: Sex and Marriage With Robots by 2050
This may belong in the "silly Story" thread but I think this topic can stand on it's own. But if a mod feel it's necessary to move this thread, i'll be happy to oblige.
Foxnews http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301736,00.html Quote:
In my own personal opinion about the marriage b/t a human and a robot, I don't really mind. Though there are ethical issues about it, both for the human and the robot
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2007-10-16, 22:50 | Link #2 |
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Whoa...Hopefully mankind doesn't have to result into having "inter-robatic" marriages...It's kinda creepy with the technology growing, hopefully it doesn't grow to the point were people can plug in and have actual cyber-sex on the go..but I'm sure that's like what....10 years away
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2007-10-17, 02:46 | Link #9 |
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2050 might be a reasonable estimate but we are far from any sort of true AI let alone the technology to create a functional humanoid robot.
To be honest, the article sounds more like attention seeking hype. As for the thread, can I ask posters to refrain from the typical cheap shots any article that includes the word "sex" will likely attract, it's meant to be a serious topic (in some way) but I can see it's going to attract some rather immature replies. "Artificial Partners" are already available, you can obtain full-size, (ahem) functional sex-dolls already (and I'm not talking about blow-up dolls either). These clearly are not robots, just manikins but the idea that "it's just a matter of adding some electronics to them to add some vibration", "or endowing the robots with a few audio responses" seems to be a far, far step to call these "robots". |
2007-10-17, 02:53 | Link #10 |
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I also find this kind of disturbing... I wouldn't mind if there's some sort of robot coexist but I don't like how it's focusing in such thing. At some parts, it feels like the article is describing about a sex slave...
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2007-10-17, 03:23 | Link #12 |
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This kind of thing is nothing new, as the article says, but I do find it interesting somebody is putting some sort of date on when it will happen.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with people doing what they want in their private lives, and this kind of thing could help people who have social or physical issues that prevent/hinder them from having human partners. However, on a technological level, we're still a while away from 'lifelike' humanoid robots. While the articulation technology exists to make them move and walk and such now, they still require mains power. Battery technology still has a long way to go before it could make these kind of things move for any period of time (ie, going outside and such) but... for simple 'sexbots' I could see the technology existing now to be sufficient. Mix in synth voices like Vocaloid, and some of the more advanced conversational AI systems that have been developed in recent years and you could have a *reasonable* companion. Still, the cost of them would be astronomical, and really, the first few generations of them would -not- be worth the money. Which would hinder the progress of them, since ongoing development would require large amounts of funding. Look at Angelic Layer (the whole deal with Icchan developing it to fund the research in to the medical side) for an anime example suitable for this forum. Then Chobits, which is set a few years after Angelic Layer, for the kind of possible results. =p But, yeah. I don't see us having fully mobile, intelligent, self aware androids within 40 years unless there's a hellova lot more effort put in to researching the fields. As is the area is mostly under-funded, done primarily by university departments for show. I won't even go in to the 'moral' side with people thinking it's wrong and such. I just think it's interesting on a technological level, I don't care about the social implications. |
2007-10-17, 05:44 | Link #14 |
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It seems that Mr. Levy was so excited to see his name on Fox that he confused a few important terms. If Fox hasn't made the whole story up using a few quotes ripped out of context which I consider 100 times more likely. But OK.
A marriage is a contract between two subjects, not a subject and an object. A programmed machine like we have them today can't marry anybody. A true AI could. Maybe marriage between humans and AIs, aliens, or genetically uplifted chimpanzees will be legal in 2050. Fine with me. But if Levy thinks that a true artificial intelligence will be reality in 2050 then why should they marry somebody "just plain ugly" or having a "unpleasant personality"? Leaving the problem what exactly makes a true AI to the philosophers, one thing for sure: Somebody or something is only capable of marrying as a subject if he/she/it is also capable of wanting to file for divorce. If we have marriage with robots in 2050 we'll also have robots who'll kick you out of your house and deny you contact with your robot children for having had an affair with the robot next door. And we'll see stories in Robo-Cosmo like 'I had sex with a human, and he was a total loser in bed!' BTW, I think true AI will still be a far cry in 2050. As the article said, we had Eliza 40 years ago and ever since then AI was "just around the corner". And I predict this won't have changed in 40 more years. But feel free to bump this thread in 2050 and laugh at me. Of course sex dolls will have improved until 2050. But that's a no-brainer.
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2007-10-17, 07:32 | Link #15 |
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exactly what i was thinki9ng. Whats the point in having a life where you find love and not pre-make it like in the Stepford Wives. Isn't it something like that. What about kids. Will we have android kids. Complete and utter rubbish is what the fox article is. And its Fox, you can't take it seriously. The stupidity of its blasts me away. Who in there right mind even says that. How the hell did the "Levy" get a job.
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2007-10-17, 08:49 | Link #16 |
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Meh, I saw that yesterday and obviously, my initial Otaku-based response was to go "Woot, Catgirl slave persocons!", and I still stand by that initial idea. I do understand that most people wouldn't find a relationship with a robot a viable thing and rather, an immoral, inhumane and psycho thing. But we all have our views on this, and I don't wanna write an essay on the issue.
Personally, I think that marriage is extending things a bit far... true that interracial and same-sex marriages were unlawful years ago, but they were still done between people. I've never heard of people being married to objects - though it doesn't mean it hasn't happened already... who knows, there're all types of people out there. 50 years is probably too early to have robots that would substitute human relationships to the majority of people out there. Perhaps to some of us hardcore hikkis who can't seem to fit in the world as a whole... But anyway.
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2007-10-17, 11:16 | Link #18 |
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Greeeeaaaaat! A new level of human stupidity is achieved. Now the future generations will have chance to screw a pile of bolts. What's next? Same-sex marriage between robots?
Call me old-fashioned, but I am strictly against this. IMO no robot, no matter how advanced or smart will be able to replace a live human. I find it unable to fall in love with a lifeless being. I mean humans are there for a reason. A marriage is something between a man and a woman. No robots included. And that line "Darling, not tonight. I have a headache, use your robot." It sounds so similar to "Darling, not tonight. I have a headache, grab some tissue, a couple of mags and go, je** off in the corner."
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2007-10-17, 13:33 | Link #20 |
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wow...*counts on fingers*
i will be 60 by then anyway it seems like someone has been watching Koharu Biyori too much but this can be an otaku's dream come true...horny kids would be losing their virginity at the ripe age of 10 at this rate
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