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Old 2013-02-24, 10:14   Link #3421
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Spoiler for Episode 21:
Actually, it's Sho Hayami voicing "Aizendad" Mr. Sono... But they have similar voices that he's mistaken with Mr. Nakata.
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Old 2013-02-24, 10:17   Link #3422
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My bad, and this isn't the first time I got them mixed up. Thanks for pointing it out! Either way, I want to hear 'Kira!' now.
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Old 2013-02-24, 11:02   Link #3423
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AKB0048 21 - And Then, Silence

Whoa. All those flashbacks, the battle... that was an intense episode. I knew the show's been building up to the Center Nova thing ever since it began, but seeing it happen in real time, to characters we've come to know and love, gives it a completely different feeling. And it wasn't just Yuuko becoming a giant glowing cross in the middle of the sky (loved that shot of her flying out of the cockpit), it was the ruins of Akibastar too. The distorted "Freedom" along the railing says it all, really. Of course, this only opens more questions, but wow. That was a really good episode.
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Old 2013-02-24, 12:03   Link #3424
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So now what's going to happen? Having just seen... that... the girls are going to have just taken a massive hit to their morale. I doubt anyone's going to be able to use the kiraras' power effectively right now. I have no idea what's happening with Sensei-Sensei or the holy grounds, but even assuming it's somehow possible to evacuate him, the DES fleet is still in orbit. Yuuko cleared out the attackers in the city, but the ships can just send in more. Nothing is solved, and the girls aren't going to be able to fight effectively after what just happened.
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Old 2013-02-24, 12:42   Link #3425
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So now what's going to happen? Having just seen... that... the girls are going to have just taken a massive hit to their morale. I doubt anyone's going to be able to use the kiraras' power effectively right now. I have no idea what's happening with Sensei-Sensei or the holy grounds, but even assuming it's somehow possible to evacuate him, the DES fleet is still in orbit. Yuuko cleared out the attackers in the city, but the ships can just send in more. Nothing is solved, and the girls aren't going to be able to fight effectively after what just happened.
From Cheri's dad last order, it does seems his main objective was to capture a Center Nova. But it seems Yuuko disappeared before he could do so. If they crush AKB now, they may lose their chance of creating a new Center Nova in the future. I think he will likely retreat now and wait at least until a new Center Nova appears or is likely to appear.
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Old 2013-02-24, 13:06   Link #3426
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^ Yeah, he probably will retreat since there's no point in keeping up the attack now.
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Old 2013-02-24, 13:14   Link #3427
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I wonder how is this going to affect Chieri when she discovers her father is responsible for the destruction of Akibastar. (Upcoming bullying from the 76th generation)
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Old 2013-02-24, 13:50   Link #3428
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I wonder how is this going to affect Chieri when she discovers her father is responsible for the destruction of Akibastar. (Upcoming bullying from the 76th generation)

The more she suffers, the stronger she will become afterwards. I'm worry about her though. There was a scene when two mecha itasha were destroyed by DES. One of them was Yuuko-themed, the other was Chieri-themed. After seeing what happened with Yuuko at the end of the episode, I thought that scene might have been foreshadowing. If that's the case, Chieri may find herself in danger at some point in the near future.
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Old 2013-02-24, 14:12   Link #3429
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Oh wow this episode was what I've been waiting for!

It was like a series finally!
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Old 2013-02-24, 14:51   Link #3430
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Wow, I didn't know that Chieri's birthday is on December 8th. That's the day AKB48 debuted. Really there's a lot of little things regarding Chieri that show how carefully conceived her character was.
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Old 2013-02-24, 22:16   Link #3431
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Wow that is a one sided battle it wonder how they keep losing with forces like that
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Old 2013-02-24, 22:33   Link #3432
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Wow that is a one sided battle it wonder how they keep losing with forces like that
Makoto's character episode pretty much confirmed that DES has deliberately holding back, as many VIP apparently use the AKB battles as a gambling platform. Seriously, given how DES apparently knew where Akibastar was, why did they only attack NOW?
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Old 2013-02-24, 23:39   Link #3433
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Makoto's character episode pretty much confirmed that DES has deliberately holding back, as many VIP apparently use the AKB battles as a gambling platform. Seriously, given how DES apparently knew where Akibastar was, why did they only attack NOW?
Because Aizendad is their boss. Disobeying who supply the weapons will cause them a lot problems in getting it. We don't know how big Zodiac is but I am sure it has so much power than any organization in AKB0048 universe. Besides you need to keep in mind the elitist were making a lot money in the black market.
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Old 2013-02-24, 23:40   Link #3434
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Spoiler for ep21:
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Old 2013-02-25, 01:13   Link #3435
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm waiting until the next episode before accepting that Yuuko disappeared!
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Old 2013-02-25, 01:24   Link #3436
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Good, that way you won't be surprised when Nagisa, Chieri and the rest of the crew raid Cubo Mundo aka Sagitariusstar to save her.
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Old 2013-02-25, 01:38   Link #3437
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I wonder where the "gate" leads to??
On other hands, Yuuko really shine brightly on this episode.
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Old 2013-02-25, 02:13   Link #3438
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Episode 21

I've finally caught up. I've said before that Okada Mari's love of off-kilter material is balanced by Kawamori's craziness, and I think that this episode proves this.

There's lots of good stuff going on, but what I like is that it shows how Yuuko is the Center Nova. It doesn't matter whether the position is formally given to her, or even if it exists any more. She proved to be the real deal through her actions, and that says more than any speech could. I think that it's also noteworthy that this is one of the best "going out in a blaze of glory" scenes I've ever watched.

It's also quite likely that this will be the last time the Center Nova will work like this. While someone else (or may someones) may get the role in the last few episodes, they're certain to not burn up like that.

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I don't know about you guys, but I'm waiting until the next episode before accepting that Yuuko disappeared!
I expect her to come back. Same goes for all the other missing Center Novae.
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Old 2013-02-25, 02:14   Link #3439
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Wow, I didn't know that Chieri's birthday is on December 8th.
That's also my grandmother's birthday! If you assume that Chieri was born in 1923, that means they were born the exact same day.
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Old 2013-02-25, 02:21   Link #3440
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That's also my grandmother's birthday! If you assume that Chieri was born in 1923, that means they were born the exact same day.
Maybe they're the same person. How does it feel to be Chieri's grandson?



On another note, here's my current theory on the Center Nova thing:

I think the Center Novae disappear because they stand alone at "position 0" and bear the burden of the group on their own. If this is true, maybe Chieri and Nagisa will become a dual Center Nova, taking the ‘loneliness’ aspect out of the position. I think that might be the key to open the gate without disappearing.
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