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Anyway, the only way for him in this lifetime now is to defeat 100 Mikotos (he was halfway through the sisters), since that isn't going to happen, the alternative is to defeat something 100 times the power of Mikoto... Quote:
Maybe Oxygen -> Poison gas? Maybe Water -> Corrosive Acid? But changing matter into new matter... Does/Can it change the state of the matter? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the AIM that surrounds an Esper is like his personal reality, what we meant by downloading the AIM is that the Esper has direct access to the function of his AIM, meaning he can update and change it.
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2010-01-08, 21:20 | Link #1422 | ||
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aren't both of them going to russia after index? am i the only one who sees fiamma reaching the full extent of his power, only for accelerator to reach level 6 and team up with touma to kick his ass into oblivion? Quote:
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2010-01-08, 21:50 | Link #1423 | |
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I'm thinking more along the lines of an Angel...
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Fiamma said he needed Index, Sasha, and the Holy Stone from Touma to complete his Holy Right. But likewise, could Imagine Breaker need those same materials to complete itself? So instead of Fiamma getting Imagine Breaker, it's Touma who steals Fiamma's Holy Right to complete his power. He could now, but yeah Kakine is just as rule breaking as Accelerator.
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2010-01-08, 22:04 | Link #1424 |
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A little off the current discussion, but related to the light novels anyways.
The way that the author consistently introduces new characters to help move the plot and then sidelines the majority of them after their arc is over is slightly annoying. Just reading the novel discussion there are like, what, 10 characters that I have no idea about, while I only get to recognize about 8 out of the 20+ I already know. It almost feels like the author doesn't know how to write about people, but only about super powers. Anyhow, I'll continue following Index if only because I find the universe its set in to be fascinating. Story wise though, I actually prefer Railgun. |
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The power you have mentioned is pretty close to the power of the 4th level 5. @babothea: Don't worry many characters who appears along the 19 volumes + 2 side stories are developed in their time. |
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2010-01-08, 22:16 | Link #1426 |
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Even Aisa? D: That girl has got to have one of the least developed stories. All we know is that she doesn't like killing people (yay) and she kills vampires by existing (boo). Hahaha
Well I meant that by introducing so many characters at once the reader can't actually feel like s/he knows them all. I'd rather have a well-developed cast of 5 rather than an army of stock characters, if you know what I mean. |
2010-01-08, 22:29 | Link #1427 |
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Well is the universe of the author and he/she does what she/he wants to do, maybe cause for the author the world doesn't spin around a little number of characters. And if you look at the material there is enought to make about tree seasons .
About Aisa... in my opinion, the author jokes with the character, she wanted to have a normal life and she got it, but the consequences were unexpected for her althought she tries to bring some colors to her character she can't because now she is normal.... "be aware of what you wish" |
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2010-01-09, 00:41 | Link #1430 |
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The best way to create lv6
If they want Lv6 all they have to do is lower the standard of each level. I mean, if they do that, some lv 1 will become lv2 ,some lv2 >>> lv3, some lv3>>>lv4 and some Lv4>> Lv5. After that, select some of lv5 (may be 1st - 5th) and call them Lv6. That it. The Level is just "a number to tell how strong of the ability". They can change its rule if they want. |
2010-01-09, 00:49 | Link #1431 |
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To clear up a few thing.
The nature os Kakine's power is even unknown to himself, until he finally saw Accelerator's wings. He realized where the new matters he created came from. This is an imporatnt hint, as it suggests those new matter has an origin somewhere. Also on whether Kakine can change the state of the matter, we have never see him use powers like that. But it does show his power can control mass. And finally, the angelic nature of Kakine's power is described as "He who weilds a piece of heaven that inhabits by the God." As for Accelerator, the angelic nature of his power is described as "He who weilds a piece of power that equates to god." As for "downloading AIM", Crowley mentioned it slightly by describing Accelerator updating his power as "The process of downloading the data of the AIM Spread Field into the vector controlling device has finally been completed." I interpret this as downloading new software (data from the AIM Field) into the hard ware (Accelerator, the vector controlling device) to to optimize the hardware's functional capacity. I feel that Lv.6, like its name, SYSTEM, suggests, is turning yourself to be a part of the system. Basically become one with the AIME Field. BTW, on the topic of how too kill Accelreator, there is two obvious way to do it, but both pretty hard to achieve. One way of doing it is to mimic Kakine, use something that is completly foreign to Accelerator's understanding thus not included in his reflection filter, and kill him in one hit before Accelerator gets a chance to include whatever that is new to him into his reflection calculation process. Hmm... perhaps Fianma has a chance? Accelerator most certainly have no comprehension at all on magical energies, and Holy Right is certainly powerful enough to end the fight in a single blow. The second way is to use an attack very complicated I mean, VERY complicated (note, not powerful, but complicated) that it compltely surpasses Accelerator's calculation capacity. After all, he can't reflect things that he can't include into his calculations. Like how Accelerator couldn't reflect the bullet when he is trying to delete the virus in LO's brain as he ran out of hardware memory to start another calculation process. But then, if you are using this method, if have to kill him before he activates black wings, because well, once Accelerator connects himself to the AIM Field, his calculation capacity is almost limitless. |
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The other Levels don't really have specific description ('Strong', 'Great', 'Super') but Lv 6 has always been called the 'Absolute Power'. Not the same topic, but here's a little trivia. Mikoto's school has Two Level 5s, Forty-seven Level 4s, and the rest are Level 3s. Quote:
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Holy Right + Holy Stone + 103 000 Grimoire + Sasha = ????
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2010-01-09, 04:16 | Link #1433 |
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woah, I've got a lot catching up to do...
I've got a question: Hamatsura Shiagi was from Skill-out before, right? It seems the next episodes of Railgun anime is gonna be about skill-out. Is it okay to expect to see him?
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From what he said about Curtana=Original that this level of artifact is still not enough as vessel. He said "It's probably exploded into pieces, a moment that I transfer my power". "Curtana=Original" the sword of mercy is an artifact that bear the power of Michael. It grants the power of Angel leader(Michael)rank to its owner. The "complete dimension amputation technique system" that activated from this sword is freaking powerful. That's make the battle against Carissa who bear "Curtana=Original" and her armies become the most epic and largest scale battle as of now. It's begin with the Necessarius(alongside with Touma,Index, 3rd princess Vilian,kanzaki and all member of Amakusa church) vs Carissa&armies. Then it's followed by Kaori+Knight leader+Aqua VS Carissa. but even those three are still no match against her. And to think that such a powerful artifact is still not be able to withstand Fianma's power..... Last edited by Plant42; 2010-01-09 at 05:04. |
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There's no way for it to match the power of true angel himself, why Fianma's Holy right is the ultimate power of Michael it's definitely stronger. Last edited by Plant42; 2010-01-09 at 06:38. |
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One more thing is that Misaka's Wings? http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1133/page27x.jpg
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